BassinCali Posted November 6, 2016 Posted November 6, 2016 I was thinking about trying this rig out and was wondering if any one could drop some knowledge on it. Quote
Super User Gundog Posted November 6, 2016 Super User Posted November 6, 2016 From what I understand its just a split shot put a foot to 3 feet from the hook. Similar to a carolina rig but the weight is fixed and doesn't slide. Also no swivel. 1 Quote
Super User JustJames Posted November 6, 2016 Super User Posted November 6, 2016 Finesse gear is great, lite line light bait, drag very slow and prepare for all big and small. Sometime the split shot will slide down to the hook so I use plier to pinch down instead of finger. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted November 6, 2016 BassResource.com Administrator Posted November 6, 2016 Here ya go! 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 6, 2016 Super User Posted November 6, 2016 Google articles on Dick Trask and get Don Iovino's book Finesse Fishing and the Sonar Connection (TW). You need to get "round" lead split shot that weight about 1/8 to 3/16 oz. The key to this presentation is light line 6# to 8# test monofilament line. 1. Squeeze the shot onto your one with about 8" above the end of the line. 2. Pull the line through the split shot slowly about 12" to cut a groove in the shot. 3. Look at the line for any flatten spots and cut it off below the split shot. 4. Pull another 24" of line through the split shot and tie on the hook using a Palomar knot. 5. Adjust the split shot about 18" above the hook and lightly recriminations the shot. I use Owner #5133 size 1/0 down shot hooks with 4 1/2" to 6" finesse worms like Roboworms or Don Iovino worms. Tom 3 Quote
BassinCali Posted November 6, 2016 Author Posted November 6, 2016 What it affect the rig that much if I use Floro instead of mono Would not what haha Quote
hoosierbass07 Posted November 6, 2016 Posted November 6, 2016 A few years ago all I did was use the split shot rig for bass. I still love spit shotting. I always carry around a pack of those split shot weights. Back then and now I use Sufix Elite mono six pound and eight pound. I squeeze a split shot above the hook about twelve inches or so (experiment) and then take a pair of pliers and slightly squeeze the weight so it holds in place a little better. I'm not a fan of fluoro and no way would I squeeze on a split shot on flouro. Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 6, 2016 Super User Posted November 6, 2016 1 hour ago, BassinCali said: What it affect the rig that much if I use Floro instead of mono Would not what haha You can use FC but tends to sink and drag along the bottom and snagging more often. I prefer the slip shot rig and use black painted brass Pro-Jo cylinder weight, glass faceted bead, Carolina Keeper and the same Owner #5133 hook. The brass weight and glass faceted bead creates a bass attracting clicks and color flashes, plus you feel strikes faster because the slides through the weight with very little drag. Tom 1 Quote
BassinCali Posted November 7, 2016 Author Posted November 7, 2016 Thanks to everyone for all the great advice. During my break at my teaching job I am going to hit up the local pond tomorrow and see how it goes. Thanks again guys, your advice is appreciated. Quote
Hogsticker Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 On 11/5/2016 at 6:34 PM, WRB said: Google articles on Dick Trask and get Don Iovino's book Finesse Fishing and the Sonar Connection (TW). You need to get "round" lead split shot that weight about 1/8 to 3/16 oz. The key to this presentation is light line 6# to 8# test monofilament line. 1. Squeeze the shot onto your one with about 8" above the end of the line. 2. Pull the line through the split shot slowly about 12" to cut a groove in the shot. 3. Look at the line for any flatten spots and cut it off below the split shot. 4. Pull another 24" of line through the split shot and tie on the hook using a Palomar knot. 5. Adjust the split shot about 18" above the hook and lightly recriminations the shot. I use Owner #5133 size 1/0 down shot hooks with 4 1/2" to 6" finesse worms like Roboworms or Don Iovino worms. Tom I always considered a split shot rig to be finesse - finesse. 1/8 would be as heavy as I'd go. I want to use the lightest weight I can get away with. I understand you're still nose hooking the bait , but I like it to sink as slow as possible. This is my go to technique for finicky tight lipped smallies when everything else has failed. I like to crawl it through wood and rock , even dead stick it. If I want to make the rig heavier I'll use a bigger plastic. I'm not saying it's wrong cause I'm sure you are catching plenty of fish , I've just always considered it a finesse tactic. I use fluorocarbon and peg a 1/16 oz bullet weight rather use a crimp weight. 2 Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted November 7, 2016 Super User Posted November 7, 2016 How do trailing bottom contact styles like this work in mucky soft bottoms? I fish a lot of places with thick decaying plant bottoms and have trouble with anything light weight touching bottom. A heavier jig I can get enough force to clean it off when I pop it but the finesse stuff just sticks and drags up a huge lump. From a kayak I have had some luck with the split shot and light C-rigs but from the bank it is just snag after snag. Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 7, 2016 Super User Posted November 7, 2016 13 minutes ago, Bunnielab said: How do trailing bottom contact styles like this work in mucky soft bottoms? I fish a lot of places with thick decaying plant bottoms and have trouble with anything light weight touching bottom. A heavier jig I can get enough force to clean it off when I pop it but the finesse stuff just sticks and drags up a huge lump. From a kayak I have had some luck with the split shot and light C-rigs but from the bank it is just snag after snag. Dragging any weight through muck isn't a good plan IMO. I would use a 3/32 oz ball head jig and worm combo and swim it just above the bottom. The slip shot rig using a 1/8 tubular weight and high flotation worms with 30"-36" length between the weight stopper and hook works OK. I weedless hook the 5133 hook, if nose hooking use a mosquito style hook. Tom Quote
Super User Catt Posted November 7, 2016 Super User Posted November 7, 2016 Finesse Carolina Rig! Split Shots really shine for me during post spawn Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted November 7, 2016 Super User Posted November 7, 2016 15 minutes ago, WRB said: Dragging any weight through muck isn't a good plan IMO. I would use a 3/32 oz ball head jig and worm combo and swim it just above the bottom. The slip shot rig using a 1/8 tubular weight and high flotation worms with 30"-36" length between the weight stopper and hook works OK. I currently fish small jigheads all the time but was hoping for a way to offer a slow slow moving small lure while keeping it off the bottom. Right now I can only go so slow before I hit bottom. The idea of a floating worm is interesting, I could a lot of the z-man stuff I already own, just t-rigged on a weightless hook. Thanks for the idea! Quote
William Rossi Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 Not a huge fan of Zman but the lil French fry (centipedz??) float high and work great for this. Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted November 8, 2016 Super User Posted November 8, 2016 It's really versatile, you can use it like a finesse carolina rig or even with a lift fall technique. My favorite baits for it are smaller curly tail worms, straight tails like a robo worm, zoom finesse, or Reaction Innovations flirt. I also really love centipedes/french fries on it, and LFT Hyper Sticks, which is a jointed senko. Quote
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