Which Flipping and pitching rod and reel to get

[JBFishing]

Hey Im trying to find me a flipping and pitching rod and reel. i was looking at the Shimano Caenan and Pflueger Supreme for reels and Lews TP-1 Speed Stick and Johnny Morris carbon lite. I have done some research but I'm not sure so if you could give me some feedback on some good rod and reels for flipping and pitching that would be very helpful. ( I'm aiming for a low price point)

[fishnkamp]

Alright lets cover a reel. if you have seen any of my recent replies to anyone on this board I am not a Shimano guy. There are lots of Shimano lovers here. I have had some and have sold off all of them. Now in fairness I have had Bantams, Curados Es and a 200  E7 Chronarch. I have never touched the reel you are asking about. In the last 3 years I have sold off all of my Shimanos and almost all of my Bass Pro reels. I have replaced them with Daiwa Tatulas. I own 1 Daiwa Exceler ( a 99 retail reel often available for $60), 2 Daiwa Tatula CTs and 3 Daiwa Tatula Type Rs. These Tatulas range from $100 to $130 from online sources. They retail from $130 to $199.  For your use, I would get either a 7-1 left handed reel or a  or 8-1 right handed reel.  If you send me an e mail directly to fishnkamp @comcast.net I will give you a source to get a Tatula CT shipped to your door for $100. I have purchased both of mine from this retailer.

Now for a great rod. Consider these two. Just so you know, I fish rods from both of these manufacturers and I have friends that do as well.  First look at a Dobyns rod. There are two models to choose from. For a beast of a rod that weighs almost nothing in your hand consider a Dobyns Fury FR 765FLIP. If you want to do more pitching and flipping as well as maybe a spare frog rod then look at the FR735C. Both rods are great, they feel right in your hand, balance well and have been built with good components. They will feel more like they cost $200.  They retail for $110

My other suggestion is a bit more money at $149, but will fit your needs super well. It is manufactured by Irod. It is a Irod Genesis II model  IRG764C   Irod builds very nice light weight rods that fish super. Do a little research on both of these manufacturers. Go look up some reviews on them from places like Tackle tour or on wired2 fish and you tube.  I bet if you go put any if these rods in your hand you will like them.

By the way where do you live? There may be a tackle shop nearby to handle some of these rods.

 

[WIGuide]

A lot of your decision will be based on what you plan on fishing the most. If it's something like docks/stumps/logs that is basically light cover, you won't need a broomstick to flip and pitch with. If you're planning on flippin/pitching heavier bushes, gnarly laydownds, pads, or other types of vegetation you're going to want something in the heavy to extra heavy range depending on manufacturer. If you fish a mixture of both, I'd go for the heavier. My recommendation for your price range would be St. Croix Mojo 7'11" H/MF and pair that up with an all aluminum frame reel. I've got a Pro Qualifier on my Mojo jig rod and I love the feel of the combo. It's a great little reel, but if you have your mind set on something else, there's plenty of options out there. 

[JBFishing]

I was looking at the Daiwa Tatula XT as a rod, would this be i good choice, i was looking at

 a 7,6 Heavy 

I have A bass Pro shops about 10 min away from my house in leeds AL

 

[Angry John]

I would grab a used Daiwa advantage hts/htsl and a used dobyns dx 795 and call it a day.  You might be able to pick up a lamiglas excel 735 which I also use for punching and frogs.  The older orange blank is a decent stick if you can find it and normally very cheap.

[GarryBaker]

Hey, guys. As this is my first post on your forum, I thought it might be considerate to begin by thanking you all for sharing so much of your experience. I've consulted the forums several times, when I found myself in need of information & have always been compelled in one way or another. My apologies if the question I'm about to ask has been answered; in fact, I'd be surprised if it hadn't. 

I pitch & flip into a good deal of heavy cover. Being in South Texas, it's usually brush, but I also encounter mats/vegetation. Love fishing this way, and am interested in knowing what you guys think is the ideal gear ratio for the baitcaster with which you make these, or similar, presentations. 

One school of thought seems to dictate that a high-speed reel, say 7:1:1, would be superior as it enables the angler to collect line quickly and promptly set the hook. The other, opposing, view asserts that a low gear ratio (call it 5:1:1) is the way to go if you're going to be horsing them out of the thick stuff. 

I'd love to hear from you all, especially those who do a lot of this style of fishing, and/or have fished both gear ratios for this application. I'm not exactly seeking anyone's favorite of a particular make or model, but rather a more theoretical analysis of what the ideal gear ratio is, and why. 

In closing, I'd like to reiterate my absolute gratitude for everything that goes into this website & these forums. Thanks, guys. 

Garry Baker 

[fishnkamp]

JBFishing the Tatula is okay. I am pretty sure you would like the Dobyns Fury FR765Flip  better for the same money,$110. If you order it from Tackle Warehouse they have some good deals on shipping.  You would be looking at a Dobyns Fury 7'6"Med Hvy 1/2 to 2 ounce model

Gary definitely 7-1 or 8-1 Never 5-1. Reels with 5 something to one are used for big deep crank baits to save your fore arm.

[17meyem]

Pflueger supreme is a great reel better than an exceller I have both the supreme would make a great flipping reel with the 22 lbs of drag it has I would stay away from any shimano under a citica although I've heard the castias is good just my $.02 from a shimano and daiwa fan

[Scarborough817]

i love my tatula type-r for flipping and pitching in the 8.1.1 ratio i am also looking for a new rod i was looking at the mojo bass 7'4" heavy and the Lew's custom speed stick 7'4" heavy mag pitching.

Edit: something i would stay away from is the abu garcia veritas i feel like the rod itself isnt built the best. i've had 2 and they both broke in under a year 

["hamma"]

I have a caenan and love it, its on a field and stream "tech-spec" telescoping flipping stick and it handles everything I put it through. And believe me,.I cross there eyes on a hookset when flipping and pitching. This combo also casts so well I also will throw a jig and pig way in back, on top of the lily pads and fish it like a frog. Best part? it didnt break the bank

 I've have had no issues with this set-up, and would recommend it to anyone. Its pretty light, casts fine, has the power one would want, and I've hauled some pigs out of heavy cover with it. Pads, hydrilla, coontail, brush, laydowns, docks with weeds, even skipping. It does it all.