Swivel On A whopper Plopper?

[ghost]

Don't recall where I read this on this site, but does this help that it keeps the WP from spinning while reeled in?

 

Any idea if this will help with the 90 from submerging?

[MassYak85]

If anything I would think the slightly extra weight at the nose of the 90 would make it submerge more. A swivel is going to rotate with the bait, so it probably wouldn't help that. Just a snap might help the cause. 

[Choporoz]

I may be misunderstanding...does your entire Whopper Popper spin?  And it goes under water?  If so, I suspect your going to need more than a swivel.  Each of those conditions are a long, long way from anything I've seen mine do.

[ghost]

I read that it has a tendency to spin when reeled in and adding a swivel helps with line twist. I've only used my 90 ad 130 at night so far, so I really can't see if it spins even some when reeled in.

The 90 is do notice submerge when I start reeling. I have the rod tip high and I have to pop it at times to bring it to the surface. I think that's I he rent with the 90.

[MassYak85]

39 minutes ago, ghost said:

I read that it has a tendency to spin when reeled in and adding a swivel helps with line twist. I've only used my 90 ad 130 at night so far, so I really can't see if it spins even some when reeled in.

The 90 is do notice submerge when I start reeling. I have the rod tip high and I have to pop it at times to bring it to the surface. I think that's I he rent with the 90.

The 130 should not be spinning at all unless something is caught between the main body and the tail, causing interference to the tail rotating by itself, the 90's body tends to spin if reeled too fast. A swivel will help with line twist, but that is just because the swivel is rotating instead of your line, it does not actually stop the rotation of the lure from happening. You could try stepping down a hook/split ring size to make it sit a tiny bit higher in the water but I'm not sure how much that will realistically help. 

[king fisher]

I bought two 90.s.  One sank and the other didn't.  Caught lots of fish on the one that didn't sink.  Threw the one that sank away.  Only time mine would spin was when I fished it very fast.  Was catching more fish with a slower retrieve, so I didn't have a problem.  I did try a small swivel, and it worked fine. 

 

[JustJames]

The 90 size trend to submerger more than 130 size. Normally I either use mono/hybrid or braid line for this type of lure, no FC needed. Also when reel back I will lift the rod high at first to help lifting the line out of water or reel as fast as possible to get rid of slack line when lure hit water.

Only time the body of 90 size spin for me is when the tail hook snack on something.

I do use snap (not the whole swivel with snap) sometime when I know Im gonna change different type of lure on the same reel, but never with 130 size(I trust my knot more than those little snap I got).

[TheRodFather]

I have been having good success by pointing the rod tip right at the bait just before it hits the water, then when it hits, raising the rod to get it up on the surface and start reeling if I need to get back to 10 o'clock to be ready for the blowup.

I fish it on 12lb mono.

TRF

[j bab]

Ghost are you using fluoro?

[Onvacation]

Are you maybe thinking of some people adding a split ring?

[DogBone_384]

I've fished size 90 Whopper Ploppers with and without swivels.  I find the swivel weighs down the nose and causes the WP to submerge unless my  rod tip is high.

[ghost]

I used 40lb braid, gonna drop down to 30lb braid, see if that helps keep the nose up on the 90

[gulfcaptain]

Had to modify both my 90's  There is a way to correct the spin and have it run a little better.  

#1 Use the smallest swivel you can on the nose attached to the splitring of the bait.  This will help line twist for sure.

#2 Replace the back hook and forward hooks.  I used a #6 on the back and a #4 on the front.  This lets the bait rise faster as it makes the back a bit lighter.  Also the #4 hook and also have added a small split ring to help "Keel" the bait and keep it running correct. These small things have helped me cure the issues you are having.  BTW, the hooks on the bait are Mustad Ultrapoint KVD 1X Short 2X Strong hooks.

[Booty Freak]

Does anyone even catch fish with this lure?  I threw mine away after a few tries. 

[KDW96]

1 hour ago, gulfcaptain said:

Had to modify both my 90's  There is a way to correct the spin and have it run a little better.  

#1 Use the smallest swivel you can on the nose attached to the splitring of the bait.  This will help line twist for sure.

#2 Replace the back hook and forward hooks.  I used a #6 on the back and a #4 on the front.  This lets the bait rise faster as it makes the back a bit lighter.  Also the #4 hook and also have added a small split ring to help "Keel" the bait and keep it running correct. These small things have helped me cure the issues you are having.  BTW, the hooks on the bait are Mustad Ultrapoint KVD 1X Short 2X Strong hooks.

 

Ive done the same with the hooks. Havent tryed swivel though. What size and brand did you trust on this bait gulfcaptain ?

16 minutes ago, Booty Freak said:

Does anyone even catch fish with this lure?  I threw mine away after a few tries. 

A few tries,and it lands in garbage? When is your garbage pickup sir? I will be rootin through your trash like an ole coon

[gulfcaptain]

2 hours ago, KDW96 said:

 

Ive done the same with the hooks. Havent tryed swivel though. What size and brand did you trust on this bait gulfcaptain ?

Looking around in my tackle bin, looks like they were Berkley McManhon swivel in a size 10 which is a 40lb swivel.  Might have even been the next size down, but definately not the next size up.

[lou304]

On 10/21/2016 at 1:37 PM, king fisher said:

I bought two 90.s.  One sank and the other didn't.  Caught lots of fish on the one that didn't sink.  Threw the one that sank away.  Only time mine would spin was when I fished it very fast.  Was catching more fish with a slower retrieve, so I didn't have a problem.  I did try a small swivel, and it worked fine. 

 

 

On 10/21/2016 at 9:36 PM, Booty Freak said:

Does anyone even catch fish with this lure?  I threw mine away after a few tries. 

Man, I wish I had the kind of money you guys must have to be just throwin away $17 dollar baits!! Next time you're thinkin about tossing something, email me first!!!

[KDW96]

On 10/21/2016 at 11:51 PM, gulfcaptain said:

Looking around in my tackle bin, looks like they were Berkley McManhon swivel in a size 10 which is a 40lb swivel.  Might have even been the next size down, but definately not the next size up.

 

Thank you sir

[Tex1]

I just bought my first WP 90. Went to a 5 acre reservoir I've never fished before. 1/2 lily pads and matted grass and 1/2 submerged grass. Fished 2 hrs. Without a nibble.  Unpacked the WP 90 and tied directly to my 50 lb. braid. Made a fifty foot cast and reeled it in. 3 ft. From me the water exploded on the first cast. WP 90 got SWALLOWED!!!  They work.

 

[NorthernBasser]

28 minutes ago, Tex1 said:

I just bought my first WP 90. Went to a 5 acre reservoir I've never fished before. 1/2 lily pads and matted grass and 1/2 submerged grass. Fished 2 hrs. Without a nibble.  Unpacked the WP 90 and tied directly to my 50 lb. braid. Made a fifty foot cast and reeled it in. 3 ft. From me the water exploded on the first cast. WP 90 got SWALLOWED!!!  They work.

 

Nice! Have you tried the 75 size? Or the 110? Both much better than the 90 IMO.

[toadhead]

I have purchased several Whopper Ploppers, mainly the larger ones but hadn't had real success until recently. Ironically I found a Whopper Plopper that someone lost in some brush.  I was able to retrieve it and surprisingly it's been the most productive lure I have owned for topwater.  Not sure if it's the size, the color (Blue Blood) or what the fish just eat this thing up.  I caught 16 largemouth bass on it in about a 4 hour span including this double catch using this lure...so I just placed an order for several versions of the 90 including a couple of the Blue Blood

 

[toadhead]

Also noting that I was casting along brushline and tree stumps, water temp was 73 degrees, water was clear to slightly stained with slight chop; slightly overcast (morning); I added a split ring (not a swivel) and tie directly to the split ring; I have 15 lb. fluorocarbon line but may opt for braid especially if I am working with larger WP's. 

[jmz313]

On 8/12/2019 at 5:12 PM, NorthernBasser said:

Nice! Have you tried the 75 size? Or the 110? Both much better than the 90 IMO.

what makes the 75/110 better?  I know the 75 shape is a different.  

 

I have a loon 90 i was considering a bone color and now wondering if it should be a 75. 

[Cam R]

29 minutes ago, jmz313 said:

what makes the 75/110 better?  I know the 75 shape is a different.  

 

I have a loon 90 i was considering a bone color and now wondering if it should be a 75. 

I use 90 in bone and works amazing. Caught mid 20 pike lots of SM and LM. 

[NYWayfarer]

1 hour ago, Cam R said:

I use 90 in bone and works amazing. Caught mid 20 pike lots of SM and LM. 

Same.

 

My 75 (loon and Shad) does not get nearly the amount of bites my 90 (bone) does. I found a WP 130 (bone) while fishing a week ago it's a huge bait! going to give it a try when the top water bite looks right again.