Flipping/Pitching

[JigMaster4]

I am going to get a flipping/pitching rod and was wondering if you think the Fenwick HMG 7'6" mh/ef rod would suffice, or do you think the 7'5" elite tech h/ef would suit my needs better? 

 

Thanks!

[GTHenson]

How tall are you? and how heavy of a weight are you planning on throwing? I flip with a 7'11" rod, extra heavy. A 7'6" m/h would be pushing it for me. 

[JigMaster4]

about 5'10", max would probably be 3/4 oz, but an occasional 1oz.

[GTHenson]

I would go with a 7'11" extra heavy, I know it sounds like a lot of rod but in my opinion it's needed. You will have a lot more accuracy and distance with a longer rod. And more leverage when you hook one of the giants that comes from flipping/pitching. 

[Bluebasser86]

Are you flipping and pitching or punching grass? 3/4 to 1oz sounds like you're punching the thick stuff to me. Your height has nothing to do with how long a rod you can use. I use rods up to 8' with no issues and I'm only 6' tall. If you're punching, I'd get something closer to 8' because it allows you to lift up on the fish more to pull them up and out of the cover. If you're flipping and pitching wood or sparse grass, either of the rods you asked about will work, just pick which one feels best to you. 

[JigMaster4]

I will mostly be pitching and flipping to cover, not a lot of grass, I said the max would be 3/4oz, but majority would probably be a 1/2 oz jig or t-rig.

[Jeff H]

Now that B.A.S.S has changed their rod length rule, isn't everybody going to get a 10' flipping rod?  I gotta get me one, maybe a 9' Premier Musky rod or something.  I'll wait until they build a new 10' Tule Dipper I guess

[d-camarena]

Mh-xf is enough for that. 7'6 is plenty long also. For punching i use a 7'6 heavy mod-fast and ive never felt like i need something bigger

[Catt]

My favorite jig rod Shimano Crucial CRC-X610MH  

Length: 6' 10

Line: 10-20 lb

Lure: 3/8-3/4

Power: Medium Heavy

Action: Extra Fast

[GTHenson]

Your height has nothing to do with it? Seriously? Have you ever seen a little kid trying to handle a 7-8' rod with a 3/4-1oz weight on the end of it? 

[WRB]

Every time someone combines flipping with pitching and doesn't know the difference makes it impossible to reply. 

IF you plan to cast the jig using the reel you need a rod and reel combo that casts good. IF you plan to cast the jig using a long rod and the line only you are  "flipping"! IF you use a rod and reel and use the line like a flip cast letting out more off the reel to extend the cast you are "pitching"!

Both flipping and pitching requires you to be close to your targeted bass, within 10' for flipping, 30' for pitching. For both presentations the rod has little to do with casting, everything to do with power lifting the bass out of the cover you are fishing. Medium heavy flipping rod makes no sense, you can flip with 12' broom stick. 

Tom

 

[GTHenson]

11 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Are you flipping and pitching or punching grass? 3/4 to 1oz sounds like you're punching the thick stuff to me. Your height has nothing to do with how long a rod you can use. I use rods up to 8' with no issues and I'm only 6' tall. If you're punching, I'd get something closer to 8' because it allows you to lift up on the fish more to pull them up and out of the cover. If you're flipping and pitching wood or sparse grass, either of the rods you asked about will work, just pick which one feels best to you. 

Height has a lot to do with the what length rod you use. Arm length has a lot to do with it. You can help somebody be a lot more comfortable by cutting or adding 1-2 inches of rod length by their height. 

[Big Bait Fishing]

38 minutes ago, GTHenson said:

Height has a lot to do with the what length rod you use. Arm length has a lot to do with it. You can help somebody be a lot more comfortable by cutting or adding 1-2 inches of rod length by their height. 

not accurate at all , so a guy who is 5'6'' tall should only use a 6' swimbait rod to throw a 5 oz. swimbait ??? come on !

rods are tools , you use the right tool for the job . for flipping , punching , and swimbaits , you need a longer rod for leverage and to be able to make an accurate presentation

[GTHenson]

4 minutes ago, Big Bait Fishing said:

not accurate at all

So somebody won't be more comfortable with a shorter or longer rod? All rod lengths are universal for every single person? Is that what you're saying? 

[Big Bait Fishing]

1 minute ago, GTHenson said:

So somebody won't be more comfortable with a shorter or longer rod? All rod lengths are universal for every single person? Is that what you're saying? 

i edited and expanded on my post

[GTHenson]

8 minutes ago, Big Bait Fishing said:

not accurate at all , so a guy who is 5'6'' tall should only use a 6' swimbait rod to throw a 5 oz. swimbait ??? come on !

rods are tools , you use the right tool for the job . for flipping , punching , and swimbaits , you need a longer rod for leverage and to be able to make an accurate presentation

No, that's not what I was saying! I'm a taller guy, I'm close to 6'5" and in some techniques I throw a longer rod than my partner because it's just a little too much for the way he fishes the technique. Fish with a lot of different people and pay attention to their gear and how the use it, you'll see that different height and build people will choose slightly different rod sizes. For comfort or usability I'm not saying the difference between using a 7'11" or a 7'6" but just an inch or two difference! 

[Big Bait Fishing]

1 minute ago, GTHenson said:

No, that's not what I was saying! I'm a taller guy, I'm close to 6'5" and in some techniques I throw a longer rod than my partner because it's just a little too much for the way he fishes the technique. Fish with a lot of different people and pay attention to their gear and how the use it, you'll see that different height and build people will choose slightly different rod sizes. For comfort or usability I'm not saying the difference between using a 7'11" or a 7'6" but just an inch or two difference! 

of course people use different length rods , but on the subject of flipping and/or pitching , a long rod is used for short line presentations and for leverage when bit . a longer rod is benificial for pendulum casting .

there a lot of guys/gals that use , in my opinion , very short rods (6') , for me i like rods at a minimum of 7'6'' but prefer 8' rods , my swimbait rod is 9' , i'm 6'1'' .

[GTHenson]

11 minutes ago, Big Bait Fishing said:

of course people use different length rods , but on the subject of flipping and/or pitching , a long rod is used for short line presentations and for leverage when bit . a longer rod is benificial for pendulum casting .

there a lot of guys/gals that use , in my opinion , very short rods (6') , for me i like rods at a minimum of 7'6'' but prefer 8' rods , my swimbait rod is 9' , i'm 6'1'' .

That's right! What started this was when I saw the guys profile picture he looked like a shorter guy, that's Why I asked his height, I didn't want to tell somebody who is vertically challenged to go out and get a 10 foot rod to try and wield around, lol. 

[Big Bait Fishing]

1 minute ago, GTHenson said:

That's right! What started this was when I saw the guys profile picture he looked like a shorter guy, that's Why I asked his height, I didn't want to tell somebody who is vertically challenged to go out and get a 10 foot rod to try and wield around, lol. 

you would be suprised how many guys that are average height (5'6'' -5'9'') who use 8'6''-10'6'' musky rods !! you use the right tool for the job 

[GTHenson]

15 minutes ago, Big Bait Fishing said:

you would be suprised how many guys that are average height (5'6'' -5'9'') who use 8'6''-10'6'' musky rods !! you use the right tool for the job 

I understand that! But you would also be surprised at how many nicks I've had put in the side of my boats because a co angler read in a magazine that he needs to have a certain size rod to pitch with when they really could have gone down an inch or two! 

[WRB]

This thread took a turn fast!

Let me remind everyone that Dee Thomas used 12' to 14' rods to flip with and as I recall Dee is about  5' 8" tall. My point is you don't use the reel to flip with, the longer the rod is an advantage.

Tom

 

[Gundog]

1 hour ago, GTHenson said:

That's right! What started this was when I saw the guys profile picture he looked like a shorter guy, that's Why I asked his height, I didn't want to tell somebody who is vertically challenged to go out and get a 10 foot rod to try and wield around, lol. 

I just object to being called "vertically challenged". I prefer Short-American.

[sgibby88]

I use a 7ft rod for pitching and flipping since I find myself in tight spots a lot fishing. Sadly no boat yet . Once I do get a boat though ill grab a 7`5 7`6 rod. I'm only 5`6 and don't really care for throwing an 8 ft+ rod. But that's my preference

[Big Bait Fishing]

52 minutes ago, Gundog said:

I just object to being called "vertically challenged". I prefer Short-American.

[Columbia Craw]

I'll try to get to the point of your question. The Heavy EF would be your choice based on the lure weights, the cover types and the fact it's one of two options you mentioned.  Very few anglers actually flip anymore.  The reels are so good and the pitching technique is so efficient, utilizing a single haul flip isn't commonly used anymore.  A 7'5" rod will be fine.