Ocho vs Senko

[Travis Gasper]

I'm big into wacky rigging, and only recently tried an "ocho" type worm. It came in the LTB last month, the Biwaa Prism worm 4.8" okechobee craw color. I was catching 3 bass for every 1 my dad was catching with his green pumpkin Yamamoto senko. I'm not sure if it was a color thing or the shape, but I couldn't believe the difference. Needless to say I bought 5 packs of Strike King ocho worms lol. I wanted more of the Biwaa ones but could not find them online. Thoughts on whether the ocho is that much different than the other "senko" types?

[DrMarlboro92]

The only real difference is fall rate. It goes like this:

Yamamoto Senko: fastest

Wave fishing Tiki-stick: medium

Strike king Ocho: slowest

(Put knock off brands in the same category as the original) 

In your particular instance, I would say that it was a combination of color, placement, and keeping the bait in front of the fish longer that got you more fish. One really isn't better than the other, but each fits different conditions. I can't tell you what those conditions are since I'm really not sure and it ends up being trial and error; sometimes a tiki works the best, and some times an Ocho or Senko will. Just keep a ton of them in your bag and go back and forth until you find what they are hitting that day.

 

 

[dwh4784]

Apologies in advance. Just can't hardly believe this is real.

[Bluebasser86]

Shape and bait density both come into play as will hook size and placement in the case of a wacky rig. The Ocho is a great bait for wacky rigging that doesn't get talked about a lot. The Havoc Flat Dawg is another great wacky rig bait (although fragile), that doesn't get talked about much. 

[Travis Gasper]

We were both using 10lb Sufix 832 braid and Gamakatsu wide gap finesse hooks, fishing shoreline and out to maybe 5ft of water. I've always found the green pumpkin Yamamotos to produce the best generally, so this really shocked me. I'll chalk it up to color preference this time. Definitely going to do more experimenting comparing the two types though. 

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

I threw a bama bug colored senko to a bass, I could see, over 10 times and it didnt strike. Changed to a watermelon/lemon laminate senko and it hit the first cast, was it the color change???

[dwh4784]

I've tried a few Senko colors, still haven't found one that I feel is "the one" yet. Blue/Black 4" netted my PB smallmouth at 3lb6oz this year. Green watermelon(plain no flake) landed a 3lb6oz largemouth. But I've also caught them on brown w/ black flake and orange pumpkin w/ gold flake colors. Nothing has out-shined any others enough to think I figured something out.

Back in the day all we used were white Slug-Go's, I might have to see if those still work to get my dad off my back (and maybe off the golf course).

[Crestliner2008]

I've had decent success with pink Senkos this season; not sure if they make the Ocho in pink?

[Mike L]

6 hours ago, dwh4784 said:

Back in the day all we used were white Slug-Go's, I might have to see if those still work to get my dad off my back (and maybe off the golf course).

Trust me, they still work...Always have,  Never stopped...They just don't get talked about much anymore because there are always something else that comes along that is perceived as better. 

Sometimes yes, most times not. 

 

Mike

[tcbass]

10 hours ago, DrMarlboro92 said:

The only real difference is fall rate. It goes like this:

Yamamoto Senko: fastest

Wave fishing Tiki-stick: medium

Strike king Ocho: slowest

(Put knock off brands in the same category as the original) 

In your particular instance, I would say that it was a combination of color, placement, and keeping the bait in front of the fish longer that got you more fish. One really isn't better than the other, but each fits different conditions. I can't tell you what those conditions are since I'm really not sure and it ends up being trial and error; sometimes a tiki works the best, and some times an Ocho or Senko will. Just keep a ton of them in your bag and go back and forth until you find what they are hitting that day.

 

 

 

Good to know!

 

I think somedays fish want certain colors, size, fall-rate, or profile, and other days they want other.

 

 

I have a lot of green Senkos because I bought them in bulk in black but I really like cinnamon brown better. I think it looks like worms, and what lake doesn't have worms? And that color always seems to produce.

[Avalonjohn44]

13 hours ago, DrMarlboro92 said:

The only real difference is fall rate. It goes like this:

Yamamoto Senko: fastest

Wave fishing Tiki-stick: medium

Strike king Ocho: slowest

(Put knock off brands in the same category as the original) 

 

 

The Ocho is pretty dense and sinks comparably to the Yamasenko.  I think you meant the Strike King Zero, the elastec version of the senko which has a maddeningly slow (to me) sink rate.

[primetime]

Strike King likes to say the flat sides on the worm give it more flash since it has defined edges...I use both, and for some reason I fish the Ocho like a Sluggo, but I tend to prefer the Ocho since Strike King makes awesome colors with great flash that are dynamite in stained water....I am not sure if it is the flash or the shape, but they are 2 different baits imo....

Not sure about wacky rigging, but I always carry a few packs of Ocho's with me at all times, I think fish do not see them as often maybe? Watermelon Red Ocho is just an awesome color here in Florida.