Red Sox vs. Cubs World Series

[A-Jay]

10 hours ago, OCdockskipper said:

That is a cool photo.  If you copy & paste it 8 more times, you could change the club insignia to the Yankees...

Not so much lately ~

A-Jay

[Hez]

26 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Not so much lately ~

A-Jay

Which makes me smile.....and feel all warm inside 

[A-Jay]

5 minutes ago, hezeez@gmail.com said:

Which makes me smile.....and feel all warm inside 

Me too ~ All Day . . . Every Day.

And on a side note, the Chicago Cubs seemed to have fallen behind 2-1 to that pesky San Francisco team and are now facing Elimination.

Oh My.

A-Jay

 

[Hez]

Just now, A-Jay said:

Me too ~ All Day . . . Every Day.

And on a side note, the Chicago Cubs seemed to have fallen behind 2-1 to that pesky San Francisco team and are now facing Elimination.

Oh My.

A-Jay

 

hahaha - not hardly 

 

 

Go Cubbies!

 

[A-Jay]

3 minutes ago, hezeez@gmail.com said:

hahaha - not hardly 

 

 

Go Cubbies!

 

Just having a little fun - The 2016 Chicago Cubs seem to have most everything needed to win the final game. 

A-Jay

[OCdockskipper]

4 hours ago, A-Jay said:

Me too ~ All Day . . . Every Day.

And on a side note, the Chicago Cubs seemed to have fallen behind 2-1 to that pesky San Francisco team and are now facing Elimination.

Oh My.

A-Jay

 

Check the box score again.  The Cubs are up 2-1, they won the first two games at home.  For you Sox fans, winning in the playoffs is when you score more runs than your opponent.  Sorry you didn't get to experience that this year...or last year...or the year before that.  Oh My.

The Giants are more than pesky, they are a team well built for success in the postseason.  Plus they have that "win a title every other year" thing going for them this decade.  It wouldn't surprise me if they won 3 straight to advance.

[A-Jay]

1 minute ago, OCdockskipper said:

Check the box score again.  The Cubs are up 2-1, they won the first two games at home.  For you Sox fans, winning in the playoffs is when you score more runs than your opponent.  Sorry you didn't get to experience that this year...or last year...or the year before that.  Oh My.

The Giants are more than pesky, they are a team well built for success in the postseason.  Plus they have that "win a title every other year" thing going for them this decade.  It wouldn't surprise me if they won 3 straight to advance.

I'm aware - I was just having a little Fun.  As a life long & suffering  Red Sox fan, I can certainly relate to how Cubs fans are feeling this year.

So Close.   In 2003 Aaron Boone broke our hearts. 

But the Red Sox FINALLY closed the deal the next year.

A-Jay

[OCdockskipper]

3 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

But the Red Sox FINALLY closed the deal the next year.

A-Jay

Speaking of having a little fun, I thought MLB voided that 2004 title due to all the steroids being used by Ortiz & Ramirez...

[deaknh03]

29 minutes ago, OCdockskipper said:

Speaking of having a little fun, I thought MLB voided that 2004 title due to all the steroids being used by Ortiz & Ramirez...

They would have to void every title for the last 25 years. Every team has and have roiders, both hitters and pitchers. 

[OCdockskipper]

6 hours ago, deaknh03 said:

They would have to void every title for the last 25 years. Every team has and have roiders, both hitters and pitchers. 

That is quite a claim.  Do you have any legitimate evidence to back it up? Specifically, who were the "roiders" on the each World Series champion for the past 25 years?  

For the 2004 champion, we know that Ortiz & Ramirez were guilty.  MLB released a list of players who failed drug tests in 2003 and Ortiz & Ramirez were on it.  They were allowed to play the entire 2004 season despite that.  For any reasonable person, that would make the 2004 title illegitimate. 

Note that I don't blame those two for cheating, there were indeed a 100 other players who were caught cheating as well in 2003.  It is understandable for some players to think they had to cheat as well in order to stay competitive.  The fault lies with MLB for not enforcing the rules when they found out who had been cheating.  However, that does not release those players from the consequences of their actions.  They cheated and any accomplishments made during that time are therefore tainted.

[deaknh03]

9 minutes ago, OCdockskipper said:

That is quite a claim.  Do you have any legitimate evidence to back it up? Specifically, who were the "roiders" on the each World Series champion for the past 25 years?  

For the 2004 champion, we know that Ortiz & Ramirez were guilty.  MLB released a list of players who failed drug tests in 2003 and Ortiz & Ramirez were on it.  They were allowed to play the entire 2004 season despite that.  For any reasonable person, that would make the 2004 title illegitimate. 

Note that I don't blame those two for cheating, there were indeed a 100 other players who were caught cheating as well in 2003.  It is understandable for some players to think they had to cheat as well in order to stay competitive.  The fault lies with MLB for not enforcing the rules when they found out who had been cheating.  However, that does not release those players from the consequences of their actions.  They cheated and any accomplishments made during that time are therefore tainted.

Regardless of being caught or not, "reasonable" people understand that roids were and most likely still are rampant on every team. How many tests did Sosa fail? Bonds? Pujols? Garciaparra? Those are just the big names but it's way deeper than that, and your smart and "reasonable" enough to realize that.

[A-Jay]

And None of this sounds like having a little fun to me. 

Too serious & too Judgmental. 

Might as well be a political or a religious discussion.

 A-Jay

[OCdockskipper]

Relax Ajay, just because a Sox fan made a claim he can't back up doesn't make the discussion serious or judgmental.  If you don't want to participate, that is fine, but don't wave the political/religious flag in order to get a moderator to shut down the discussion.

Deak, you could have just said your claim was an opinion.  As the saying goes, you are entitled to your own opinion, just not your own facts. The fact that Sosa & Bonds failed drug tests does not relieve the other players (Ortiz & Sosa included) of their guilt.  However, for you to include Pujols in that list with no evidence that he ever took PED's shows the danger of making wild claims based on opinion.  You are painting with a broad brush in an apparent effort to support a team you root for.

The fact is the 2004 Red Sox won that title with two players who tested positive for steroids in 2003 and were not punished the following year for cheating.  The fact that 100 other players also cheated with no punishment does not legitimize that title.  There were hundreds more who played by the rules and had to compete against those who cheated.

[A-Jay]

On ‎10‎/‎6‎/‎2016 at 10:31 PM, OCdockskipper said:

If the Cubs do play the Red Sox, they should hire Bill Buckner to sing the National anthem and have Bucky Dent throw out the first pitch.

 

On ‎10‎/‎10‎/‎2016 at 10:06 PM, OCdockskipper said:

Well it looks like there is a new ship in Boston harbor.  If Ortiz & Pedroia want to go to the World Series this year, maybe they could buy tickets and bring a couple of goats as dates.  Wait, would Ortiz get nervous sitting next to someone whose last name begins with PED?

Go Cubs!!

 

On ‎10‎/‎10‎/‎2016 at 10:20 PM, OCdockskipper said:

That is a cool photo.  If you copy & paste it 8 more times, you could change the club insignia to the Yankees...

 

8 hours ago, OCdockskipper said:

Check the box score again.  The Cubs are up 2-1, they won the first two games at home.  For you Sox fans, winning in the playoffs is when you score more runs than your opponent.  Sorry you didn't get to experience that this year...or last year...or the year before that.  Oh My.

The Giants are more than pesky, they are a team well built for success in the postseason.  Plus they have that "win a title every other year" thing going for them this decade.  It wouldn't surprise me if they won 3 straight to advance.

 

8 hours ago, OCdockskipper said:

Speaking of having a little fun, I thought MLB voided that 2004 title due to all the steroids being used by Ortiz & Ramirez...

 

1 hour ago, OCdockskipper said:

That is quite a claim.  Do you have any legitimate evidence to back it up? Specifically, who were the "roiders" on the each World Series champion for the past 25 years?  

For the 2004 champion, we know that Ortiz & Ramirez were guilty.  MLB released a list of players who failed drug tests in 2003 and Ortiz & Ramirez were on it.  They were allowed to play the entire 2004 season despite that.  For any reasonable person, that would make the 2004 title illegitimate. 

Note that I don't blame those two for cheating, there were indeed a 100 other players who were caught cheating as well in 2003.  It is understandable for some players to think they had to cheat as well in order to stay competitive.  The fault lies with MLB for not enforcing the rules when they found out who had been cheating.  However, that does not release those players from the consequences of their actions.  They cheated and any accomplishments made during that time are therefore tainted.

 

25 minutes ago, OCdockskipper said:

Relax Ajay, just because a Sox fan made a claim he can't back up doesn't make the discussion serious or judgmental.  If you don't want to participate, that is fine, but don't wave the political/religious flag in order to get a moderator to shut down the discussion.

Deak, you could have just said your claim was an opinion.  As the saying goes, you are entitled to your own opinion, just not your own facts. The fact that Sosa & Bonds failed drug tests does not relieve the other players (Ortiz & Sosa included) of their guilt.  However, for you to include Pujols in that list with no evidence that he ever took PED's shows the danger of making wild claims based on opinion.  You are painting with a broad brush in an apparent effort to support a team you root for.

The fact is the 2004 Red Sox won that title with two players who tested positive for steroids in 2003 and were not punished the following year for cheating.  The fact that 100 other players also cheated with no punishment does not legitimize that title.  There were hundreds more who played by the rules and had to compete against those who cheated.

And somehow I do feel relaxed.

A-Jay

[Jigfishn10]

Oh well, it started off as a good thread.

Good luck to the Cubs, Dodgers, Indians and Jays.

[jr231]

I think it's amusing. I don't really see anybody out of line either.. no names.. no swearing.. just talk. 

[bigbill]

I moved 20 minutes to the north of my old house. The difference is my old house was in New York Yankee country. My new place is die hard red Sox fans. I been a Sox fan since they broke the 1918 curse. That's a series I'll never forget. They slammed those Yankees.

They can do it again. Have faith in Big Pappy.

[deaknh03]

6 minutes ago, bigbill said:

I moved 20 minutes to the north of my old house. The difference is my old house was in New York Yankee country. My new place is die hard red Sox fans. I been a Sox fan since they broke the 1918 curse. That's a series I'll never forget. They slammed those Yankees.

They can do it again. Have faith in Big Pappy.

Dear Bill,

the sox were eliminated from the playoffs a couple days ago, and Ortiz retired.

Sincerely,

reality

[Dwight Hottle]

On 10/7/2016 at 4:42 PM, deaknh03 said:

Toronto is the team to beat in the A.L.

You are right & they were beaten soundly. Go tribe!

[Sam]