rod power question

[sgibby88]

So I'm looking to expand my rod selection and I'm looking for something that`s mh mod. Now theres a few rods that I stumbled across that I like but my question is what would you consider the power crank to? As in like a med, mh?

  Thanks for your help

[gulfcaptain]

Trying to understand your question.  So are you looking for a MH Moderate action cranking rod?  And not sure what you're asking about a power crank......your post is a bit confusing.  What are you looking to do and fish with which will give us more info on what you're asking about.

[MBB Nate]

I would say the difference between going med and med hvy would come down to how heavy/deep of cranks you are wanting to throw.  

 

I have a med/hvy mod veritas 2.0 and it does well with bigger cranks/chatterbaits/swim jigs/lipless cranks.

[sgibby88]

I'm looking for a mh moderate action and there is a few I have my eye on. but then I also seen the cranking rods are also moderate action. My question is about the power of it. Since stated that its cranking what would the be relative to? Like a med heavy or a med?

[MBB Nate]

Cranking rods also come in medium and medium heavy power just like non cranking rods.

[gulfcaptain]

17 minutes ago, MBB Nate said:

Cranking rods also come in medium and medium heavy power just like non cranking rods.

this but the action of the rod is what is different.  Extra Fast, Fast, Med, Fast, Moderate are all actions.  Medium, Med. Heavy, Heavy are all power ratings of the blank in question.

Moderate action rods are mainly used for cranking and reaction baits, although some "Punching" rods are also a moderate action to compensate for the lack of stretch in braid.  

[sgibby88]

The one company I'm looking at lists their cranking rods as mod action crank power. All I'm trying to figure out is what is that "crank" power similar to? Is it closer to a med or is it closer to a heavy or in between?

[gulfcaptain]

Well what are their rods rated for....IE, lure and line weight.

[sgibby88]

8-17lb 1/4-1oz. the 7ft model

[gulfcaptain]

I would rate that most likely as a MH.

[sgibby88]

Thanks for the help. Ive spent hours trying to figure it out before posting but couldn't really find what I was looking for answer wise

[gulfcaptain]

A rod with that rating I would look at using it to fish Squarebills(up to the 2.5 size) , lippless cranks (up to 3/4oz), and some medium diving cranks.  Possibly even a heavier bladed bait such as a 1/2 oz or larger spinnerbait or chatterbait. 

[sgibby88]

My plan is using it for spinnerbaits chatter baits swim jigs. That's why I was curious as to what the crank power was similar to. Unless the crank rods would be no good for that. I do need a rod dedicated for cranks though. But the lakes I mainly fish for now I don't really throw any cranks because the vegetation is bad and the lakes are only 4ft deep. Throwing cranks from land tends to be more aggravating then its worth

[gulfcaptain]

Those will work.  I'd probably fish a swim jig on a different rod, but I'm sure it would work.  Like a more Med Fast or Fast action rod myself for swim jigs.  Look into shallower running cranks (0-4ft) such as wakebaits or shallow runners such as SK Shallow 1.5.

[fishnkamp]

What brand has your interest and what length?

 

[WRB]

Rod power doesn't have any standards to compare one mfr to another, same with action it's all subjective.

At one point in time Fenwick started rating rod power objectively by using dead weight with numbers that related to pounds of lifting power. In very basic terms the following are members to letters; 2 = ML, 3= M, 4 = MH, 5 = H.

Action is how the bends from tip down to reel seat.

Parabolic bends evenly tip to reel seat.

Moderate bends first in the upper 1/3 tip down before the lower rod.

Fast bends first in the upper 1/4 tip down before the lower rod.

Cranking power is usually referenced to the reels gear ratio. Most crank bait rods have moderate action.

Tom

[timsford]

4 hours ago, sgibby88 said:

My plan is using it for spinnerbaits chatter baits swim jigs. That's why I was curious as to what the crank power was similar to. Unless the crank rods would be no good for that. I do need a rod dedicated for cranks though. But the lakes I mainly fish for now I don't really throw any cranks because the vegetation is bad and the lakes are only 4ft deep. Throwing cranks from land tends to be more aggravating then its worth

If you are fishing grass, I definitely wouldn't get a moderate action for those baits. I personally wouldn't use moderate for anything but trebles in open water. I'd get a mh or heavy mod fast or fast with a good backbone depending on the line you use and also the maker of the rod. What rods are you consideringand what is your budget? What kind of line do you use? These things will give everyone more info and make it a lot easier to help 

[sgibby88]

I will most likely be using braid with some sort of leader. But I'm not exactly sure yet. I have 2 brand new 6.3:1 reels that need to be paired to rods. I'm not trying to exceed past 7ft but don't mind if its only by an inch or two. I'm not trying to spend big bucks so roughly no more than say 150 a rod for now. Trying to expand my arsenal for now then will eventually purchase some cadalliac rods lol. Ive been eyeing up the *** oman 2, lews david fritts, diawa dx-bass and st Croix premier crank and *** defy black. The squarebills ive been throwing are the 1.5. Still manage to bring in tons of vegetation. Its shallow up to about 10 15ft out. No idea what the back of the lake is like as you need a boat to get back there

[Bankbeater]

I use a MH for spinnerbaits, and chatterbaits.  Especially if I'm pulling them through the weeds.

[WPCfishing]

If you plan on casting moving baits the 1/4-1 MHM will do fine. You can cross over with it too. Jigs, worms and top water.  The Benefit to the Mod will be more of a parabolic bend. 

I'm not referring to a crank bait rod.

What brand is the rod you're looking at? That matters because ratings can be very different.

[sgibby88]

15 hours ago, WPCfishing said:

If you plan on casting moving baits the 1/4-1 MHM will do fine. You can cross over with it too. Jigs, worms and top water.  The Benefit to the Mod will be more of a parabolic bend. 

I'm not referring to a crank bait rod.

What brand is the rod you're looking at? That matters because ratings can be very different.

 

On ‎10‎/‎4‎/‎2016 at 8:18 PM, sgibby88 said:

I will most likely be using braid with some sort of leader. But I'm not exactly sure yet. I have 2 brand new 6.3:1 reels that need to be paired to rods. I'm not trying to exceed past 7ft but don't mind if its only by an inch or two. I'm not trying to spend big bucks so roughly no more than say 150 a rod for now. Trying to expand my arsenal for now then will eventually purchase some cadalliac rods lol. Ive been eyeing up the *** oman 2, lews david fritts, diawa dx-bass and st Croix premier crank and *** defy black.

And have been recently looking at the favorite phantom. Summit is out of my price for now. As well as the higher end g loomis rods