25" or 28" IPT For Swim Bait Reel

[ghost]

Daiwa has a new big low profile reel coming out soon.

It's the Lexa 300 CC. CC is clicker, this looks like the Lexa HD but lower gear ratios.

To cast a majority of swim bait lures up to 3-4 Oz and 20lb copoly line, what gear ratio? 6" Huddleston and Savage, Spro 6",etc.

I have a Cardiff 301 w/ 24" ipt. I'm looking for a lower profile swim bait reel.

I'm also going to get the double handle.

[Big Bait Fishing]

i mostly throw trout imitation baits like hudds , for those i like an IPT somewhere between 21'' - 26'' . so to answer your question , get the 25'' IPT reel !

to make a recommendation , i don't know if you use or like Abu Revo reels , but if i were throwing those size baits you mentioned , i'd get a Revo winch , it has the 5.4:1 gears and can hold plenty of 20 lb. line , plus it weighs a LOT less( at least 3 oz !!!) . and costs a LOT less !!!

[WRB]

IPT ratings are nearly meaningless unless you compare reels with spools that are the same diameter and width. At the end of a 40 yard cast what is the IPT?

Swimbaits are a lure you cast fairly far usually 100' or more and for that reason most swimbait anglers use wide large 300 to 400 size reels with wider and larger diameter spools.

The Shimano 300 and Daiwa Lexa 300 are very similar reels, both 6:4-1 ratio and should work good for you if looking at low profile reels. 

Sunline Armillo Nylon is small diameter strong line, I use 25# for both 68 and 8" Hudds.

Tom

PS, you need a clicker for swimbaits.

[Big Bait Fishing]

53 minutes ago, WRB said:

IPT ratings are nearly meaningless unless you compare reels with spools that are the same diameter and width. At the end of a 40 yard cast what is the IPT?

Swimbaits are a lure you cast fairly far usually 100' or more and for that reason most swimbait anglers use wide large 300 to 400 size reels with wider and larger diameter spools.

The Shimano 300 and Daiwa Lexa 300 are very similar reels, both 6:4-1 ratio and should work good for you if looking at low profile reels. 

Sunline Armillo Nylon is small diameter strong line, I use 25# for both 68 and 8" Hudds.

Tom

PS, you need a clicker for swimbaits.

that sounds like a good line and i've been wanting to try it , just wish they made it in 30 & 35 lb. test , but the 25 lb.  is probably great for medium sized baits like the hudd 8'' and Deps 250

[WRB]

18 minutes ago, Big Bait Fishing said:

that sounds like a good line and i've been wanting to try it , just wish they made it in 30 & 35 lb. test , but the 25 lb.  is probably great for medium sized baits like the hudd 8'' and Deps 250

30 lb would be great for the Deps 250.

Blackwater Toray mono is good, their site was down, could ref the  type/name and getting pricey for small amount line they offer.

Tom

[Big Bait Fishing]

8 minutes ago, WRB said:

30 lb would be great for the Deps 250.

Blackwater Toray mono is good, their site was down, could ref the one type/name and getting pricey for small amount line they offer.

Tom

i currently use Gamma co-poly in 30 & 40 for big baits (7-15 oz.) i have 25 lb. on the reel now for hudds , though i can't get much 40 lb. line on my Revo Toro 51 . Gamma co-poly is very strong , almost to the point of it's difficult to break off 30 &40 lb. line by hand , even wound around a towel in your hand !!! but memory is pretty high as you start getting into higher test lines . might have to start using Izorline XXX

by the way Tom , i imagine you'll be going to the Bassathon this year , i'll probally go on the Saturday , maybe i'll see you there

[NorcalBassin]

Since you'll usually be retrieving your swimbaits slowly and all of the way back to the boat I'd recommend the lowest IPT for a given reel on a designated swimbait setup.

[Dogmatic]

I'll piggy back on this post. You guys recommending low IPT, moderate ratios (6.4). Fishing swimbaits, like Tom said, long cast, a lot of line out, if you get strikes at distance, isn't harder to reel all that slack line in, set the hook, and keep pressure on the fish with those low IPT, and mod ratios, Wouldn't it be better just to teach yourself to reel slower?

[Big Bait Fishing]

4 hours ago, Dogmatic said:

I'll piggy back on this post. You guys recommending low IPT, moderate ratios (6.4). Fishing swimbaits, like Tom said, long cast, a lot of line out, if you get strikes at distance, isn't harder to reel all that slack line in, set the hook, and keep pressure on the fish with those low IPT, and mod ratios, Wouldn't it be better just to teach yourself to reel slower?

fishing a Hudd on the bottom , you want to reel super slow , trying that with a high gear ratio is pretty hard , with a low gear ratio , you can always speed up .

by knowing your reel is pulling in at low IPT's when you have a lot of line out , you reel a tad faster till you know you're about half spool then slow down

as far as slack line , fishing a trout imitation bait like a hudd , you don't have excess slack and you keep the rod pointed at the bait with tip down , when you get bit , there is no slack that can't be picked up with 6 1/2'- 7 1/2' of rod in front of you .

for the guys who like using round reels , you'll notice most use the calcutta D that has a gear ratio of 5.1:1 ..bottom line is , low IPT reels for swimbaits is where it's at ...

[Airman4754]

I throw way lighter line than most guys. 20lb Big Game for the mega baits, 17lb Iron Silk for Hudds, 80lb 832 (20lb diameter) for rats & slammers, and 12lb CXX for all glide baits no matter what size. I have a Calcutta 400, 200, Curado 300e, and a Lew's Super Duty wide spool and if I could only have one it would be the Lew's. It handles so well, is way lighter, has a ton of power, and has plenty of capacity for everything I use. 

[Big Bait Fishing]

37 minutes ago, Mosster47 said:

I throw way lighter line than most guys. 20lb Big Game for the mega baits, 17lb Iron Silk for Hudds, 80lb 832 (20lb diameter) for rats & slammers, and 12lb CXX for all glide baits no matter what size. I have a Calcutta 400, 200, Curado 300e, and a Lew's Super Duty wide spool and if I could only have one it would be the Lew's. It handles so well, is way lighter, has a ton of power, and has plenty of capacity for everything I use. 

80 lb. braid is light  , i can see 12 lb. CXX for smal glides like a R2S 168 , but i wouldn't use that line for any baits over 3 oz. , maybe an underhand toss . try that with a ABT suicide glide 12'' , the CXX wouldn't make it through the cast !!

you are more daring than most !! 

[Airman4754]

5 hours ago, Big Bait Fishing said:

80 lb. braid is light  , i can see 12 lb. CXX for smal glides like a R2S 168 , but i wouldn't use that line for any baits over 3 oz. , maybe an underhand toss . try that with a ABT suicide glide 12'' , the CXX wouldn't make it through the cast !!

you are more daring than most !! 

I throw the 9" all the time and SS250's and haven't ever had a problem. 

We don't have 12" trout here anymore. They stock three sizes now. For all lakes that get solid in the winter they release fry right before ice-on and in the spring when it melts they are about 6" so we throw 68's, 7" ABT's, and 168 S-Wavers. They plant 8"ish in trout throughout the year which is easy to match. Then finally they plant "Trophy Trout" and there isn't a bass here that it chomping one of those.