Understanding bass fishing terms

[fishballer06]

9 minutes ago, J Francho said:

So, this very debate is why the binomial classification system was put in place - to end debates using common names, or colloquialisms when referring to living things.  A 'pike" can mean several different things, depending on where the person is from.  Up here, it always refers to "northern pike," Esox lucius. But elsewhere, it could mean a walleye, or one a the few species of pickerel.

I've never heard anyone call a walleye a pike. Maybe that's a New York thing? Around here, pickeral refers to a chain pickeral, as in an offbreed of a northern pike. However, the Canadians call walleyes "pickeral". This can lead to a confusing conversation if you don't know that someone is Canadian. 

However, I can usually decipher what they mean after I hear them say "eh?"...

[WRB]

When I first started traveling and bass fishing across the country it became obvious each regional area had their own terms for fishing. The heart land of bass fishing is the south and southerners speak a different language than northerners, westerners etc. 

The first term I ran into was grass, to me grass met small reeds or grass growing in shallow water or someone smoking pot.

To southerners grass met every type of aquatic plants growin in or around water, weed met someone smoking pot.

Bream to me were a carp species, to southerners bream cover every type of pan fish including bluegills, green sunfish, red ears, etc. Specks could be crappie or seatrout depending how close to the coast you were, specks to me were brook trout.

Up north small northern pike are called jacks or hammer handles, pickerel were snakes. Northwest largemouth bass were trash fish.

Lunker or beaver, you get into political correctness.

And the beat goes on.......

Tom

 

[J Francho]

Here's a pretty good guide to northern species:

http://www2.dnr.cornell.edu/cek7/nyfish/index.html

[papajoe222]

Picture someone that's only fished with a float and worm on a hook reading about a monster shoepick someone caught out of the snot grass  on a whopper plopper. 

[MikeWright]

2 hours ago, papajoe222 said:

Picture someone that's only fished with a float and worm on a hook reading about a monster shoepick someone caught out of the snot grass  on a whopper plopper. 

Oh, here in texas, we say, put at der sumagun in der like at, give her a twist, then grab the dagnab like at, and crank err up Bo!!!

[N Florida Mike]

And a bowfin is called a mudfish here in Florida!!

One time I was fishing at a little pier in St Augustine Fla.A man and his wife were fishing too.He went to get a snack and he had just got off the pier when she hooked into something big!!She's screaming and reeling with all she had.Everyones watching her pull it up.Husband is running back ,hearing her .About the time he got there , she gets it up and it's flapping! She starts yelling. It's a flounda,its a flounda.Husband takes one look and says disgustedly It's not a flounda,its a stingaray!?

A native Southerner would say "Floun- der "2 syllables.Emphasis on " floun "

[scaleface]

Here in Northern Missouri

White Bass - Striper

Drum - White Perch 

 Flathead - Johnny cat

Green sunfish - Rock bass

Bowfin- Dogfish -Grinnel 

 

 

 

 

 

[bigbill]

COPOLYMER fishing line.

A blend of mono but less stretch. Takes more abrasion too.

Example,, EXCALIBUR SILVER THREAD.

Saltwater flounder, flatfish, 

Catfish we call good eating.  Lmao

[Jaderose]

Just don't call your rod a "pole".  Just don't

[Torn Thumb]

They've been called fishing poles since I was a kid and I'll always call them that. I call all sunfish pumpkinseed or bluegill. I can't bring myself to call a crayfish a crawfish. I just can't.

[soflabasser]

Learning all this fishing terminology from different regions seems more of a challenge than bass fishing itself. 

[N Florida Mike]

Redbreast ( redbreast )

                Bluegill , ( males are copperheads ,females are yellow bellies ).               

                 Red ear sunfish ( shell crackers,)

                  spotted sunfish  (stumpknockers)

All these are generally called bream where I'm from

[Ratherbfishing]

Since the post office (at least on Miracle on 34th street) recognizes Santa Claus, in that same vein, since the Snag proof company calls their weedless "mouse", a "moss mouse", shouldn't "moss" therefore be recognized as something that grows in and on the water?  You don't deliberately cast these into the trees, do you?  (Emphasis on the word "deliberately")

Rubber worms have probably never been made of rubber (or latex for that matter) though that term is generally accepted.

When I was growing up, we (my family anyway) referred to artificial lures (those shiny creations which were WAY out of my budget) as "fake bait."  Has anyone else ever called them that?

 

 

 

[J Francho]

1 minute ago, Ratherbfishing said:

Rubber worms have probably never been made of rubber (or latex for that matter) though that term is generally accepted.

They actually were, lol.  They didn't work too well.

[Cardiologist]

On ‎9‎/‎25‎/‎2016 at 1:58 PM, DubyaDee said:

I'm confused about the term "no stretch fluorocarbon" that all the pros feel the need to use. If it was no stretch you wouldn't need to reiterate it any chance you get. 

Fluoro stretches 35%, mono stretches 38%. They are exactly the same when it comes to stretch.

[Ratherbfishing]

5 minutes ago, J Francho said:

They actually were, lol.  They didn't work too well.

One of Goodyear's less successful ventures.  Sort of like Lambert's Cafe's first slogan "Home of the throwed Potato Salad."

[J Francho]

8 minutes ago, Cardiologist said:

Fluoro stretches 35%, mono stretches 38%. They are exactly the same when it comes to stretch.

I'm not even sure what those numbers mean.  Yes, fluoro stretches, just like nylon mono stretches, just like co-polymer stretches...

Different brands stretch differently, and deform differently.  Anyone that has fished a high end fluoro like Tatsu side by side with a high end mono, like Suffix Elite will tell they do not stretch exactly the same.  Tatsu (and InvisX for that matter) have quite a bit of initial stretch, but Tatsu locks down, showing the strength of it's dual fluoro extrusion, until it eventually fails.  My experience is that the point of deformation and failure are very close.  Not all lines are like this, and nylon mono not at all like this.  But, your mileage may vary - these are just my personal observations both on the water and at the bench.

[scaleface]

As I understand it , floro doest snap back after it is stretched like mono .meaning once floro  is stretched it is damaged line . Is this so ?

[J Francho]

Depends on the specific line.  There's a ton of deformation in most nylon mono before it breaks.  Tatsu, it pretty much breaks when it's at the point of deformation (not snapping back) - which to me is a good thing.  But to say fluoro doesn't snap back isn't really true.  In either case, if set your drag to about 1/3 breaking strength (not"test") and you'll be fine.