TV/Movie Reboots...Is Nothing Sacred?

[Darren.]

It is official, with MacGuyver, and now...wait for it

MAGNUM P.I.

NOTHING is sacred anymore. Ok, I'm overreacting. It IS a sequel, not a "reboot",
but still. Anyone else tiring of reboots or do you like them remade for "today"?

https://www.cnet.com/news/magnum-p-i-sequel-coming-to-abc/#ftag=CAD590a51e

[Scott F]

The only thing sacred in television is money.

[riverbasser]

There all outta ideas

[Gundog]

You'll see more of this coming around soon. Netflix, Amazon, HBO and other cable offshoots have dumped 100's of millions of dollars into "new" tv programs and now the networks have to compete more for viewers. So a rehash of an old show is going to be the norm not the exception. Hollywood loves to give you what you already loved....remember "The Force Awakens". Where did I see that before? Oh yea, I remember, 1977 when it was called "A New Hope". Unoriginal programming from an unoriginal source. BTW is anybody planning on seeing that new movie...umm lets see if I remember the title....Magnificent Six...no that's not right. What was it again? Anyway I hear its gonna be great(*yawn). Think I'll pass on this one. Maybe I'll go see the next remake of a film that was a remake of a film that was a remake of a film.

[Oregon Native]

We have that option of an old fashioned idea....we can read a book or play games with the family.  Finding I'm watching less and less of the boob tube.   Just sayin

[Bankbeater]

They don't have the time or money to sit down and think of a new idea so they use what they already have.

[buzzed bait]

i hate it....  it's easier to make a sequel or reboot i guess, but they're garbage more or less.

[Fishing Rhino]

It all goes through cycles.  The first big thing on television was the variety shows.  Ed Sullivan, Milton Berle, Sid Caesar and Imogene Coca, etc.  Then came the westerns which gradually morphed into the detective/police shows. 

Then came the talent shows.  Anyone besides me remember Arthur Godfrey's Talent Scouts.  Nothing new about American Idol when it first came out.  The live audience picked the winner of the Talent Scouts by their applause.  They had a decibel meter to measure the volume of the applause.  The winner would return to next weeks show.  Win three weeks in a row and you got a cash award, and if memory serves an audition with the biggies in the record/entertainment industry.  There were the comedy shows, some of which were blended with a variety show.

Today, we have too much information.  There is an unlimited number of media vying for our attention.  There is something for everyone.  We have forums on every topic under the sun.  Almost everything is diluted.

Think the reality shows are a fairly new concept?  Wrong.  Back in the day there was "Queen For a Day" where a few women would tell their sob stories about how life had dealt them tragedies.  The winner might get kitchen appliances, a new wardrobe, or whatever. 

All in the Family spawned a multitude of offshoots from "The Jeffersons" to "Maude".  Was All in the Family a pioneer?  Can you say "The Honeymooners"?  I knew you could. 

What about shows like Deadliest Catch, Ice Road Truckers, Ax Men, etc.  These are basically long running documentaries.

When I was a kid, there was NBC, ABC, and CBS and local broadcasting.  There were no networks that were dedicated to golf, fishing, tennis, auto racing, etc.  There are forums on the internet for every topic under the sun, where there is opportunity to lurk, or to participate and have your say.

There has always been the "golden age" of this or that be it movies, television, radio, etc.  Movies, radio, and television have traditionally been an escape.  Someday, down the road, this will be known as the golden age of information. 

[Torn Thumb]

Lethal weapon, the series. Rush Hour, the series. I don't watch much TV anymore but when I do it definitely isn't reboot garbage like this. I'm waiting for another CSI or NCIS spinoff or even a reboot to add a cherry on top of this steaming pile of entertainment.

[Damn Yankee]

I like public television, they don't talk to you like you are 8.

[Scott F]

1 hour ago, d**n Yankee said:

I like public television, they don't talk to you like you are 8.

Isn't Sesame Street on public television?   

[hoosierbass07]

Well, I just saw The Magnificent Seven remake about two hours ago and I loved it!  It is my new favorite 2016 film that I put above Captain America Civil War and Nice Guys. 

[BassnChris]

On September 22, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Darren. said:

It is official, with MacGuyver, and now...wait for it

MAGNUM P.I.

NOTHING is sacred anymore. Ok, I'm overreacting. It IS a sequel, not a "reboot",
but still. Anyone else tiring of reboots or do you like them remade for "today"?

https://www.cnet.com/news/magnum-p-i-sequel-coming-to-abc/#ftag=CAD590a51e

I am with you brother!

[Catch 22]

On ‎9‎/‎24‎/‎2016 at 3:27 AM, Fishing Rhino said:

It all goes through cycles.  The first big thing on television was the variety shows.  Ed Sullivan, Milton Berle, Sid Caesar and Imogene Coca, etc.  Then came the westerns which gradually morphed into the detective/police shows. 

Then came the talent shows.  Anyone besides me remember Arthur Godfrey's Talent Scouts.  Nothing new about American Idol when it first came out.  The live audience picked the winner of the Talent Scouts by their applause.  They had a decibel meter to measure the volume of the applause.  The winner would return to next weeks show.  Win three weeks in a row and you got a cash award, and if memory serves an audition with the biggies in the record/entertainment industry.  There were the comedy shows, some of which were blended with a variety show.

Today, we have too much information.  There is an unlimited number of media vying for our attention.  There is something for everyone.  We have forums on every topic under the sun.  Almost everything is diluted.

Think the reality shows are a fairly new concept?  Wrong.  Back in the day there was "Queen For a Day" where a few women would tell their sob stories about how life had dealt them tragedies.  The winner might get kitchen appliances, a new wardrobe, or whatever. 

All in the Family spawned a multitude of offshoots from "The Jeffersons" to "Maude".  Was All in the Family a pioneer?  Can you say "The Honeymooners"?  I knew you could. 

What about shows like Deadliest Catch, Ice Road Truckers, Ax Men, etc.  These are basically long running documentaries.

When I was a kid, there was NBC, ABC, and CBS and local broadcasting.  There were no networks that were dedicated to golf, fishing, tennis, auto racing, etc.  There are forums on the internet for every topic under the sun, where there is opportunity to lurk, or to participate and have your say.

There has always been the "golden age" of this or that be it movies, television, radio, etc.  Movies, radio, and television have traditionally been an escape.  Someday, down the road, this will be known as the golden age of information. 

Yup,I remember all except the queen/day show.I go back to the Mickey Mouse show featuring the Spin and Marty series. Lest we forget the Howdy Doody show and Gene Autry, Roy Rogers and Flash Gordon. How about Sky King. How about when TV's went blank after playing the Star Spangled Banner about 11PM.

TV repair men would make house visits as did Dr`s,milk and bread men.Wow=I am old

  I watched McGyver last nite. They don`t have me onboard yet. I think the original show was more realistic. A few of my friends call me McGyver.

This day of information has destroyed about 90% of my "secret fishing holes" The only real privacy I have anymore is fishing the dead of winter.We even have a local writer that is pushing that now.He tries to milk me from time to time and I give him my best Shultz impression==="I know nothing"

[Fishing Rhino]

Yup,I remember all except the queen/day show.I go back to the Mickey Mouse show featuring the Spin and Marty series. Lest we forget the Howdy Doody show and Gene Autry, Roy Rogers and Flash Gordon. How about Sky King. How about when TV's went blank after playing the Star Spangled Banner about 11PM.

They either went blank, or to a test pattern which was basically a circle, divided into segments.  You adjusted on the gazillion knobs and dials on the tv to minimize the distortion of the pattern.

 

 

[Choporoz]

On 9/25/2016 at 10:41 AM, Scott F said:

Isn't Sesame Street on public television?   

HBO, I thought.

 

Didn't like Magnum, nor McGiver when they were on the first time...makes little difference to me if they reboot them so I can not-watch them again.  So very little of interest to me on network TV, that I don't notice one way or another.  I don't usually find out that something was actually good until 3 or 5 seasons in...and then I just stream it.  Been a while since I looked forward to a weekly tv show....probably NBC Sunday Mystery (McCloud, Columbo, McMillan and Wife...)   

[Torn Thumb]

On 09/25/2016 at 10:41 AM, Scott F said:

Isn't Sesame Street on public television?   

It's on HBO now, so they can have game of thrones cameos.

[Hurricane]

I miss Sons of Anarchy. .. 

[Raider Nation Fisher]

But but but, It is being remade. How can you not look forward to a reboot of IT!!! The original gave me nightmares for years. The book was better and scarier than the movie. This go around the movie is supposed to be as creepy if not scarier than the book. I don't know if the new actor can come close to comparing to the horror that Tim Curry made with the role, however I have extremely high hopes. 

 

It has been my favorite work by Stephen King since I first read the book in third grade. I have 6 different editions with the different cover art. As well as two first editions, one pristine, the other for reading. I'm working on getting the Cemetary Dance numbered collectors edition now. I just got to find it for a price less than 500 bucks. I am obsessed with that book and movie. Im pretty much obsessed with all of Kings works though. Nothing has ever compared to the terror that Pennywise the clown instilled in me. 

[Felix77]

I am as critical as the next guy with "reboots" but try to keep an open mind with most.   You don't realize how much time has passed until you see a more modern version of an original film.   They don't always work but when they do it is awesome!    I absolutely fell in love with the new Sherlock series with Benedict Cumberbatch.   That has been done and redone a million times and this modern version which includes the internet, his homeless network which he keeps in touch with via smartphones and obviously his genius/demented mind is absolutely awesome.

Another way to look at it is that there is SO much demand for shows across an insane amount of channels (tv, cable, you-tube, hulu, roku, amazon, google & on and on ...) that one way to help that demand is to take classics and remake them.

[Darren.]

41 minutes ago, Raider Nation Fisher said:

But but but, It is being remade. How can you not look forward to a reboot of IT!!! The original gave me nightmares for years. The book was better and scarier than the movie. This go around the movie is supposed to be as creepy if not scarier than the book. I don't know if the new actor can come close to comparing to the horror that Tim Curry made with the role, however I have extremely high hopes. 

 

It has been my favorite work by Stephen King since I first read the book in third grade. I have 6 different editions with the different cover art. As well as two first editions, one pristine, the other for reading. I'm working on getting the Cemetary Dance numbered collectors edition now. I just got to find it for a price less than 500 bucks. I am obsessed with that book and movie. Im pretty much obsessed with all of Kings works though. Nothing has ever compared to the terror that Pennywise the clown instilled in me. 

Tim Curry's Pennywise was indeed terrifying.

Especially in today's "clown sighting epidemic".

The new version just doesn't scare me like Curry's, instead, IT
reminds me of a more sinister Syndrome from The Incredibles.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

30 minutes ago, Darren. said:

Tim Curry's Pennywise was indeed terrifying.

Especially in today's "clown sighting epidemic".

The new version just doesn't scare me like Curry's, instead, IT
reminds me of a more sinister Syndrome from The Incredibles.

Holy Crap! That is weird as hell.

[Darren.]

1 minute ago, Raider Nation Fisher said:

Holy Crap! That is weird as hell.

Yeah, doesn't do it for me. But this is downright horrifying:

[Gundog]

On 9/26/2016 at 11:49 AM, Fishing Rhino said:

Yup,I remember all except the queen/day show.I go back to the Mickey Mouse show featuring the Spin and Marty series. Lest we forget the Howdy Doody show and Gene Autry, Roy Rogers and Flash Gordon. How about Sky King. How about when TV's went blank after playing the Star Spangled Banner about 11PM.

They either went blank, or to a test pattern which was basically a circle, divided into segments.  You adjusted on the gazillion knobs and dials on the tv to minimize the distortion of the pattern.

 

 

I'm old enough to remember the test pattern and I always wondered why the Indian (PC alert- Native American) was on there? 

[Fishing Rhino]

As a cultural icon[edit]

An actual Indian-head test card, the pattern as printed on art-grade white cardboard, was only of secondary importance to television system adjustment, but many of them were saved as souvenirs, works of found art, and inadvertent mandalas. By contrast, nearly all of the hard-to-open, steel-shielded, vacuum glass monoscope tubes were junked with their hidden Indian-head test pattern target plates still inside. The monoscope target plates were also small, a few inches in size, while the showy camera test cards were sized on the order of 1.5 by 2 feet (0.46 by 0.61 m), making them natural keepers for picture-framed wall display.^{[citation needed]}

The original art work for the Indian Chief portrait was completed for RCA's research engineers by an artist named Brooks on August 23, 1938. The original portrait was done in pencil, charcoal, ink and zinc oxide. For about a year the Indian portrait was televised in the laboratory as the entire test pattern. It was later incorporated into the pattern of calibrated lines and shapes. The original portrait measures eight inches (20 cm) across as a circular image containing several identifiable shades of gray, and some detail in the feathers. There is also some Zone 8 texture in the white feathering and some Zone 2 texture in the black hair. The master art for both the portrait and the pattern design was discovered in a dumpster by a wrecking crew worker as the old RCA factory in Harrison, New Jersey was being demolished in 1970. The worker kept the art for over 30 years before selling it to a test pattern collector.^[9]

The Indian-head test pattern became obsolete in the 1960s with the debut of color television; from that point onward, an alternate test card of color bars became the test card of choice. Since the 1990s, most television stations in the United States have broadcast continuously without regular sign-offs, instead running infomercials, networked overnight news shows, syndicated re-runs, cartoons, or old movies; thus, the broadcast of test patterns has become mostly obsolete (though they are still used in post production and broadcast facilities to check color and signal paths). Nevertheless, the Indian-head test pattern persists as a symbol of early television. A variant of the card appeared on theatrical release posters for Weird Al Yankovic's 1989 film UHF. It was sold as a night-light from 1997 to 2005 by the Archie McPhee company,^[10] reminiscent of the times when a fairly common late-night experience was to fall asleep while watching the late movie, only to awaken to the characteristic sine wave tone accompanying the Indian-head test pattern on a black-and-white TV screen. The test card had also featured in the opening sequence of the early 1960s science fiction anthology The Outer Limits.^[11] Decades later, it was popularized as the loading screen for the Fallout series video games, and a part of the Electronic Frontier Foundation's website.^[12]

Many of the nation's television stations used the image of the Indian-head card to be their final image broadcast when they signed off their analog signals for the final time between February 17 and June 12, 2009, as part of the United States digital television transition.^{[citation needed]}