Why I chose Daiwa Tatula Type R over Shimano Curado

[J Francho]

I've worked on a few of those old Bantams.  Really cool reels.  Almost watch-like in precision.

[timsford]

On 9/21/2016 at 5:45 PM, Big Bait Fishing said:

i don't know about that , i think the ACB brake sytstem is a lot better than Abu's

the reels are smaller making them palm better  and  alot of the reels come with better , longer handles .

The reels may be smaller but Lew's isn't the first or only one with an externally adjustable, infintely variable centrifugal braking system. The Lew's acb system is just like the ivcb system Abu has used for years on some reels, and quantum has had the ACS system for a long time as well. And longer handles aren't necessarily better. It depends on what the user prefers. A longer handle should give you more leverage in theory, but it also makes your handle travel farther to make the same handle rotation so you actually end up feeling farther with a longer handle like if you swapped to a lower gear reel and had to reel more turns of the handle retrieve your bait. Shimano and daiwa make their own reels in their own factories. Everyone else pays doyo or banax to make reels that are all basically the same with interchangeable parts across many brands. I'll stick with daiwa and shimano because they make reels that last, and both introduce and stay on the forefront of most new reel technology. And if you need a part, you have a much better chance of getting one, since they don't have 25 reels that all get redesigned and renamed every year, making it nearly impossible to get parts in a couple years, but that still leverage the same features and technology so even though they are "new" reels, there's nothing new or innovative unless you count a hook hanger or line reminder on your reel

[Big Bait Fishing]

43 minutes ago, timsford said:

The reels may be smaller but Lew's isn't the first or only one with an externally adjustable, infintely variable centrifugal braking system. The Lew's acb system is just like the ivcb system Abu has used for years on some reels, and quantum has had the ACS system for a long time as well. And longer handles aren't necessarily better. It depends on what the user prefers. A longer handle should give you more leverage in theory, but it also makes your handle travel farther to make the same handle rotation so you actually end up feeling farther with a longer handle like if you swapped to a lower gear reel and had to reel more turns of the handle retrieve your bait. Shimano and daiwa make their own reels in their own factories. Everyone else pays doyo or banax to make reels that are all basically the same with interchangeable parts across many brands. I'll stick with daiwa and shimano because they make reels that last, and both introduce and stay on the forefront of most new reel technology. And if you need a part, you have a much better chance of getting one, since they don't have 25 reels that all get redesigned and renamed every year, making it nearly impossible to get parts in a couple years, but that still leverage the same features and technology so even though they are "new" reels, there's nothing new or innovative unless you count a hook hanger or line reminder on your reel

the thing that rings true to what you're saying is that it all user's preference !

daiwa reels never felt comfortable in hand & shimano's customer service makes me never want to buy their products , ever . i used to use all Abu reels but made the switch to Lew's reels and i must say i feel no need to go elsewhere .

 

[J Francho]

Sure it's preference, but the fact remains, Shimano and Daiwa make their own reels.  Pretty much everyone else in the bass fishing world has one of two companies make their reels.  Lew's isn't a bad choice, though in terms of support after the sale. You will get a person if you call them, and they are usually pretty helpful.  Same goes for Daiwa and Shimano.  In fact, I'm on a first name basis with many there.  Other companies have an automated support system.  Quantum's is remarkably streamlined via their website, especially if you need replacement parts.  I've also had good dealings with Okuma and Pinnacle.

[Fisher-O-men]

On 9/21/2016 at 0:30 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

He has ABU Garcia reels so he knows what lews brings to the table whether he realizes it or not. 

Wait a minute, Abu makes Lews?  Who knew?  Evidently everyone except me! 

1 hour ago, J Francho said:

Sure it's preference, but the fact remains, Shimano and Daiwa make their own reels.  Pretty much everyone else in the bass fishing world has one of two companies make their reels.  Lew's isn't a bad choice, though in terms of support after the sale. You will get a person if you call them, and they are usually pretty helpful.  Same goes for Daiwa and Shimano.  In fact, I'm on a first name basis with many there.  Other companies have an automated support system.  Quantum's is remarkably streamlined via their website, especially if you need replacement parts.  I've also had good dealings with Okuma and Pinnacle.

Ever thought about running for President? 

[hoosierbass07]

I'm a Shimano fan but I bought my first Lews baitcaster reel a month or so ago and that thing is starting to change my hate towards baitcasters to love for them.  I got it on a *** Black rod and that thing casts nice with hardly any backlashes.  Lews, at least the one I have, is changing my mind on baitcasters.  Next up, I want a Daiwa. 

[J Francho]

5 minutes ago, Fisher-O-men said:

Ever thought about running for President? 

The devil is in the details I left out.  You can also read between the lines.  Perhaps some company needs an automated system for repair parts....otherwise the traffic would bottleneck, lol.

But yeah, I'm trying to be impartial and fair.  The biased opinion is further up in the thread.

[Columbia Craw]

14 hours ago, Catt said:

I have a friend who has been in the reel repair business since the mid 60 & in his opinion Shimano & Daiwa are #1 & #2 for reliability.

I started with Shimano & Daiwa has shown me no reason to change.

My first was a Bantam 100EX with rosewood handle

Solid as an anvil, versatile as a pair of ChannelLocks, dependable as a 30/30!

This was THE reel in the day. You could get them on sale for about 45 bucks.  Matched with a Fenwick Lunker Stik 555 and a Mann's jelly worm. Oh the memories.  

[Further North]

There's a lot to be said for be loyal to a brand because they've treated you well over the years...but there's a downside as well: You might miss out on a genuinely innovative new technology, superior value or change in business practices that changes how a company does business that benefits their customers.

Lotta folks missed the boat in the 70s by being loyal to Chevy/Ford/Chrysler...and then a lotta other folks missed the boat in 2000s when the tide turned back the other way and American brands were/are better deals for the same quality....

Refusing to consider a company based on something that happened years ago limits your choices...that's OK if it works for you...but poisoning others really isn't right.

I had a Chevy Tahoe that was the biggest POS you can imagine back in the very early 2000s...dunno if it was built on a Monday or early AM on a Thursday after the GM Wednesday night bowling league won the championship...but it had serious problems with every major system inside 18 months of the day I bought it.  Does that mean I disregard all the positive experiences of thousands of other GM owners?  Heck no.  That'd be dumb, IMO.

I think it's far, far more important that you try different things and buy what you like that works best - for you - in your application than to stay with one brand...unless that's what works for you...then go for it.

[Catt]

Some of us are lucky in that we get to test drive new products.

I'm currently testing a 2017 Shimano Citica, a 2016 Lew's America Hero, & a 2016 Academy H20 Maxim, & a 2016 Mr. Crappie® Slab Daddy® Baitcast Reel

 

[Further North]

11 hours ago, Catt said:

Some of us are lucky in that we get to test drive new products.

I'm currently testing a 2017 Shimano Citica, a 2016 Lew's America Hero, & a 2016 Academy H20 Maxim, & a 2016 Mr. Crappie® Slab Daddy® Baitcast Reel

 

That'd be fun.

I got to test drive an HP Scitex 7600 a few years ago....