JigMaster4 Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 So I was looking at rods and the Castaway Taranis popped up, and they had mod-fast and moderate action rods for jigs and frogs. I always thought that you wanted a fast or xf action for those type rods? I have really only been fishing a year now so I didn't really know. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks! Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted September 15, 2016 Super User Posted September 15, 2016 With a lot of anglers using straight braid for jigs, some rod manufacturers have started making rods with slower tapers for techniques normally used with faster tapers. With fluorocarbon or mono you will get line stretch on a hook set so having a rod with a fast or extra fast taper with a lot of backbone helps counter the line stretch. Braid has zero stretch and a big hook set can actually pull a hook out of the fish so having a rod with a little more give helps keep that from happening. For frogs I don't know if I want a mod fast action but jigs or punching with straight braid, it will actually help. 2 Quote
Super User MickD Posted September 19, 2016 Super User Posted September 19, 2016 It somewhat depends on the length of cast you will likely be using. I use a lot of very long casts with jigs and tubes with braid, and I stll prefer fast actions for better hook sets with the long casts. I don't fish frogs much, but still think a fast action would allow better hooks sets and better twitching the frogs along the tops of pads and other weeds. Quote
d-camarena Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 I like the moderate actions for my jig and frog fishing. I can swing home without worrying about my braid snapping. And the action helps me keep pressure on the fish better 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 A slower action can be helpful keeping fish pinned when flipping heavy cover. Slower doesn't necessarily mean softer either. Each case is unique. 1 Quote
CrustyMono Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 On September 15, 2016 at 6:13 AM, smalljaw67 said: With a lot of anglers using straight braid for jigs, some rod manufacturers have started making rods with slower tapers for techniques normally used with faster tapers. With fluorocarbon or mono you will get line stretch on a hook set so having a rod with a fast or extra fast taper with a lot of backbone helps counter the line stretch. Braid has zero stretch and a big hook set can actually pull a hook out of the fish so having a rod with a little more give helps keep that from happening. For frogs I don't know if I want a mod fast action but jigs or punching with straight braid, it will actually help. moderate action loads better and will help when setting the hook Quote
Molay1292 Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 54 minutes ago, CrustyMono said: moderate action loads better and will help when setting the hook Interesting idea, care to expand on the thoughts a little. Quote
BobP Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Mod action bends more and farther down the rod blank. When you cast, it bends more as you acclerate it through the cast. That is "loading" and it makes your cast more powerful and longer. The rod is doing a lot of the work for you. Fast and very fast rods flex less and so store and release less energy to the cast. But they generally provide more sensitivity for bottom presentations like worms and jigs while slower action rods are often preferred for moving presentations like crankbaits where you are doing a lot of casting. The slower action is thought to allow a fish to engulf a bait better than a fast action rod and keep the fish pinned to a treble hook better. Anyway, that's the theory. In practice, you might prefer one action over the other to the extent that it's all you use. And you wouldn't be wrong as long as you are rarely losing fish during the fight. 1 Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted September 21, 2016 Super User Posted September 21, 2016 moderate rods load better but fast action rods are better for hook sets . Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 21, 2016 Super User Posted September 21, 2016 Without picking up and touch-feel tests there isn't any way to evaluate rod by power/action rating because no standard exists. Put a reel with line on the rod and have some hold the end of the line about 30' away and put both light and heavier pulling force to determine how the rod feels. No 2 anglers set hooks the same way, we all develop techniques that work for us depending on presentation, distance away from the fish and lure types. One thing is for certain, with jigs you need to be able to keep in contact with it or you will miss strikes. Tom Quote
WPCfishing Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 I fish a lot with toads. My personal experiences with many rods lead me toward the fast tip and lots of back bone when fishing in heavy cover. I like a 6-7 power magnum rod. My toad and frog rods: lews Custom Lite Magnum Grass Abu Villian 2.0 76-7 Abu Villian 2.0 70-6 Abu Ike 74-6 ( softer tip ) good on frogs. Team Diawa 66 MH I use the Diawa MH fast in open water. Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted September 24, 2016 Super User Posted September 24, 2016 Everyone has their own style of bass fishing so you are going to get many different answers.I fish with inshore rods that are rated at medium heavy or heavy action most of the time. Quote
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