Super User WRB Posted September 14, 2016 Super User Posted September 14, 2016 12 minutes ago, J Francho said: So, 22 lbs. 7 oz., correct? Yes, the Kurita bass weight is 22 lbs 4.97 oz, so 22 lbs 7 oz., legally Caught under IGFA rules, authenticated witnessed certified weight would establish a new WR LMB. Tom 1 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted September 14, 2016 Super User Posted September 14, 2016 34 minutes ago, WRB said: The Kurita bass. Tom IGFA lists both fish at 22lbs-4oz, they are both are tied for the record. So a new record would be based on the 22-4 existing record. So a new record would have to beat by 2 ounces or be 22lbs-6ozs. I realize Kurita's bass was bigger but did not exceed the standard of breaking an existing record by 2 ounces or more for a record under 25lbs. 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 14, 2016 Super User Posted September 14, 2016 Kurita bass weighed 10.12 kilograms or 22.31 lbs or 22 lbs .497 oz. IGFA listed the weight as a tie however the official weight to beat is 22.31 lbs. Why the weight is listed as 24 lbs 4.oz instead of 22 lbs 5, list formal weight listed is 10.12 kg, ( 22 lbs 4 oz) the lbs- oz is only a reference. Tom 1 Quote
Super User Raul Posted September 14, 2016 Super User Posted September 14, 2016 1 hour ago, J Francho said: So, 22 lbs. 7 oz., correct? No, 22 oz 6 oz. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted September 14, 2016 Super User Posted September 14, 2016 22lb 6oz is correct Quote
Super User Redlinerobert Posted September 14, 2016 Super User Posted September 14, 2016 Then of course you have Paul Duclos with his released 24 lb fish. And here's a 22.01 caught in CA for size comparison. Could this be a real photo of Perry's fish??? Here's a link to the story. http://www.gon.com/news/mystery-photo-re-ignites-debate-over-georgias-world-record-largemouth-bass 3 Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted September 14, 2016 Super User Posted September 14, 2016 Wow, look at the size of the bucketmouth on George Perry's 22 pound, 4 ounce bass. That bass has a bigger mouth than a +40 inch snook has. Mr.Dulcos has plenty of evidence to prove his 24 pound bass, even has a respected witness and had his scale tested. When it comes to bass fishing these men are in a league of their own, doubt many can say they have caught a +22 pound bass like these men have. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 14, 2016 Super User Posted September 14, 2016 44 minutes ago, soflabasser said: Wow, look at the size of the bucketmouth on George Perry's 22 pound, 4 ounce bass. That bass has a bigger mouth than a +40 inch snook has. Mr.Dulcos has plenty of evidence to prove his 24 pound bass, even has a respected witness and had his scale tested. When it comes to bass fishing these men are in a league of their own, doubt many can say they have caught a +22 pound bass like these men have. Bath room scales can't be certified, a record can't be validated without a biologist or DFW official examination to determine if the bass was caught legally, doesn't have any added weight internally and weighed on a certified scale. Lots of doubt with the Dulcos bass as to it's actual weight. Crupi's bass wasn't examined and he knew better, therefore the bass wasn't listed as a state record because it didn't meet the states requirements. I have personally been through this gauntlet of trying to prove a giant bass weight years after it was caught. I have pictures, certified weight, witnesses names, phone numbers and submitted all the data to Duke at B.A.S.S. without ever receiving a reply for him. It's my own fault because at the time 19.3 lb bass wasn't close to the lake or state record 21 lbs 15 oz bass. Any bass that is a record must be killed, iced and weighed with witnesses, examined to be authenticated in today's world. Tom Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted September 14, 2016 Super User Posted September 14, 2016 7 minutes ago, WRB said: Bath room scales can't be certified, a record can't be validated without a biologist or DFW official examination to determine if the bass was caught legally, doesn't have any added weight internally and weighed on a certified scale. Lots of doubt with the Dulcos bass as to it's actual weight. Crupi's bass wasn't examined and he knew better, therefore the bass wasn't listed as a state record because it didn't meet the states requirements. I have personally been through this gauntlet of trying to prove a giant bass weight years after it was caught. I have pictures, certified weight, witnesses names, phone numbers and submitted all the data to Duke at B.A.S.S. without ever receiving a reply for him. It's my own fault because at the time 19.3 lb bass wasn't close to the lake or state record 21 lbs 15 oz bass. Any bass that is a record must be killed, iced and weighed with witnesses, examined to be authenticated in today's world. Tom That is true that he weighed his 24 pounder on a bathroom scale, but he did have plenty of witnesses and had the scale tested.It seems such a hassle to have the IGFA accept a new world record largemouth bass,I particularly don't like the part that the next world record bass has to be killed for the official record.The IGFA has countless official records for fish that have been released, yet for some strange reason a new world record bass may not count if released. Quote
Ktho Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, soflabasser said: That is true that he weighed his 24 pounder on a bathroom scale, but he did have plenty of witnesses and had the scale tested.It seems such a hassle to have the IGFA accept a new world record largemouth bass,I particularly don't like the part that the next world record bass has to be killed for the official record.The IGFA has countless official records for fish that have been released, yet for some strange reason a new world record bass may not count if released. The IGFA kinda sucks. I don't really respect their records that much, the states seem to do a better job at keeping it together. It's a giant hassle to get something IGFA accepted and imo they count things that shouldn't be counted and discount things that should be counted. For all-tackle records it really should be extremely simple. Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted September 15, 2016 Super User Posted September 15, 2016 25 minutes ago, Ktho said: The IGFA kinda sucks. I don't really respect their records that much, the states seem to do a better job at keeping it together. It's a giant hassle to get something IGFA accepted and imo they count things that shouldn't be counted and discount things that should be counted. For all-tackle records it really should be extremely simple. Yes it doesn't make much sense how they accept certain records so easily, yet don't accept other legitimate catches.The " IGFA world record longest bass" comes to mind,that bass was barely 24 inches long,a size that countless bass fisherman have caught. Quote
jr231 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Posted September 15, 2016 @soflabasser whatttt ???????? I caught a 24 inch largemouth out of a 4 acre pond this year. Surely the world record must be longer than that..... I debated on getting it mounted. It only had a 15.5 inch girth. I think it might have been on its last leg. But I put her back anyway. And hope to see her next spring 1 Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted September 15, 2016 Super User Posted September 15, 2016 13 minutes ago, Yeajray231 said: @soflabasser whatttt ???????? I caught a 24 inch largemouth out of a 4 acre pond this year. Surely the world record must be longer than that..... That particular "record" is something many of us break often.Hundreds of bass fishermen every year in Florida catch bass in excess of 24",yet none of them challenge that longest bass record since it's a joke.There's been a couple guys that have caught +28" bass in the state of Florida this year alone... 1 Quote
d-camarena Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 I can photoshop better than that picture suppossedly of perry Quote
BassObsessed Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 24'' record is ridiculous. Like stated that length is caught often in alot of states. Iv'e caught em that long in 4 different states. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 15, 2016 Super User Posted September 15, 2016 IGFA sent a official to Japan to validate the Kurita bass weight, length and girth at 22.31 lbs, 29.5" long, 29" girth. The Perry bass was 32" long, 28" girth and weighed 22 1/4 lbs according to F & S contest application. Why are those "valid" lengths not used? The Perry bass length is 2 1/2" longer than any other bass ever measured, Dottie was 29.5" long! Tom Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted September 15, 2016 Super User Posted September 15, 2016 IGFA started a catch & release program a few years back based solely on length. They established minimum lengths for most species. Anyone conforming to their rules can submitt a fish that exceeds those minimum lengths. The program only pertains to fish caught after the *** of the catch & release program so previous records do not qualify. If someone submitts a bass for their state & that exceeds the minimum qualifier then that becomes the new record if it is the longest submission. IGFA sells vinyl measuring devices for proof of length along with the required photos. If someone catches a longer fish than the existing record but doesn't enter it the old record stands. The catch & release program is only as good as the participation and effort put into it. 3 Quote
lectricbassman Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 13 hours ago, d-camarena said: I can photoshop better than that picture suppossedly of perry Lol no kidding! Its sad how easily people are duped by bad photoshoped images these days. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 15, 2016 Super User Posted September 15, 2016 13 hours ago, Dwight Hottle said: IGFA started a catch & release program a few years back based solely on length. They established minimum lengths for most species. Anyone conforming to their rules can submitt a fish that exceeds those minimum lengths. The program only pertains to fish caught after the *** of the catch & release program so previous records do not qualify. If someone submitts a bass for their state & that exceeds the minimum qualifier then that becomes the new record if it is the longest submission. IGFA sells vinyl measuring devices for proof of length along with the required photos. If someone catches a longer fish than the existing record but doesn't enter it the old record stands. The catch & release program is only as good as the participation and effort put into it. Read the length rules this morning and you must buy the ruler from IGFA store site, the fish must be laid on the IGFA ruler flat, nose against the bump stop and photo of the entire fish, close up of the head against the stop, close up of the tail showing length, angler holding the fish, statement the fish swam away, rod and reel used and lure or bait, 10 yards of the line. The rules eliminate fish caught prior to IGFA establishing the new length only classification. Tom 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted September 15, 2016 Super User Posted September 15, 2016 Pretty similar to the rules for online kayak tournaments, sans the identifier placard you download and print. Quote
contium Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 27 minutes ago, WRB said: Read the length rules this morning and you must buy the ruler from IGFA store site, the fish must be laid on the IGFA ruler flat, nose against the bump stop and photo of the entire fish, close up of the head against the stop, close up of the tail showing length, angler holding the fish, statement the fish swam away, rod and reel used and lure or bait, 10 yards of the line. The rules eliminate fish caught prior to IGFA establishing the new length only classification. Tom $50 for a ruler? Wow! http://store.igfa.org/IGFA-World-Record-Tool-s/1830.htm Quote
jr231 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Posted September 15, 2016 You didn't think you'd get in the books for free did ya? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted September 15, 2016 Super User Posted September 15, 2016 You might want to check out the membership fees as well.... Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted September 15, 2016 Super User Posted September 15, 2016 51 minutes ago, WRB said: Read the length rules this morning and you must buy the ruler from IGFA store site, the fish must be laid on the IGFA ruler flat, nose against the bump stop and photo of the entire fish, close up of the head against the stop, close up of the tail showing length, angler holding the fish, statement the fish swam away, rod and reel used and lure or bait, 10 yards of the line. The rules eliminate fish caught prior to IGFA establishing the new length only classification. Tom This is the official measuring board, and although I have caught bass that measure longer than 65cm (25.59'') , I have never gone through the hassle of submitting it for the record. This fish was caught 8/28/16 just a couple weeks ago Jeff 7 Quote
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