World record bass

[jr231]

Does the record belong to that guy in Japan ? From what I've read it weighed exactly the same as George Perrys.. which was caught in Georgia ? Is it 22 lbs 4oz?  Seems a little odd to me that it would weigh exactly the same.. the odds of that are slim to none.. sounds like either the Japanese stretched the truth.. or the Americans don't want to let the record go.. forgive me for not knowing the Japanese man's name. I do know he caught it on a live bluegill.. does anybody know how George caught his ? And if it was caught in Georgia... why do i not hear much about Georgia bass ? I know they get bigger down south.. but all I ever hear about is Florida and California.. 

[Airman4754]

If I remember right the Japanese fish was one ounce heavier and it has to be two ounces bigger to break a record so they call it a tie. 

Dottie is the real world record. 

[soflabasser]

Good subject.George Perry caught his 22 pound, 4 ounce bass on a Creek Chub Fintail Shiner artificial lure and Manabu Kurita caught his 22 pound,5 ounce bass on a live bluegill,at least that's what they told the world. 

There have been several bass caught that where bigger than 22 pounds, 4 ounces but they don't count for various reasons(caught in a net,illegal techniques, where not properly documented,etc).Paul Duclos caught a 24 pound largemouth bass and Mac Weakley caught a 25 pound,1 ounce largemouth bass,both in California.Cuba has produced several bass over 20lbs,but people there are more concerned about having enough food to eat than having a record. Mexico,Cuba,Japan and maybe certain lakes in Africa probably have a couple world record largemouth bass swimming in lakes as we speak, but it will be quite the challenge to catch one of these bass and have it officially recognized by the IGFA.

[hunterPRO1]

1 hour ago, Mosster47 said:

If I remember right the Japanese fish was one ounce heavier and it has to be two ounces bigger to break a record so they call it a tie. 

Dottie is the real world record. 

dottie was snagged not caught legally

 

[WRB]

The Kurita bass caught at Lake Biwa Japan weighed 22 lbs 5 oz and was scrutinized very closely by the IGFA, witnesses, photos, certified scale and measurements of 29.5" long 29" girth.

The Perry bass was reportedly caught in 1932, lake Montgomery in Georgia, a small shallow oxbow lake that dried up sometime in the 40's. There isn't a photo of Goerge Perry holding his bass, a fishing partner that has never been located, the fish weighed on a 100 lb postal scale at 22 1/4 lbs, 32" long,28" girth. No proof that would hold up today.

Tom

 

[Redlinerobert]

Somewhere there's a photo of the Perry bass, with a small boy holding it.  

[WRB]

1 hour ago, Redlinerobert said:

Somewhere there's a photo of the Perry bass, with a small boy holding it.  

There is a picture of a bass held by a unknown man with a small boy standing next to the bass, date and place of the photo undetermined.

The Perry bass was said to be caught during a rainy afternoon, it was late when he returned to the post office for a weight and took the bass home and ate it according to George Perry interview before he died in a plane crash. The photo is a sunny mid day photo, the bass looks to me to be about 15 lbs.

I have accepted the Perry bass record because it was grandfathered in by IGFA 20'years later using the Field & Stream fishing contest from 1932.

LakeTom

[Torn Thumb]

Anybody here ever gone to Japan just to fish for bass? Sounds like it could be fun.

[Catt]

What exactly were the standard operating procedures for recording a world record bass in 1932?

California anglers have tried for years to erase Perry's & now they'll have to overcome Kurita bass!

[Torn Thumb]

I would love to see everyone's head explode when the next world record comes from somewhere totally unexpected.

[WRB]

The Perry bass was caught June 1932 and grandfathered as a world record around 1950 by the IGFA when adding fresh water game fish records. IGFA established record catch criteria in 1939.

Goerge Perry was considered  a honest man who didn't self promote his catch, for that reason  his record has stood the test of time without meeting IGFA standards. Perry said in a interview he sent a photo to both Field & Stream and Creek Chub lure company to be published, there is no record of the photo. 2006 Baab, local expert on Perry's fish, received a photo of the man and boy from a Perry relative, the man in the photo may have been Payne, Perry's partner, nobody has identified him. 

The only reason the Perry bass comes under question are the facts; small oxbow lake in June after the spawn with questionable forage source, no proof of weight or photo or measurements, only Perry's statement, understandable considering the 1932 date.

Tom

 

[d-camarena]

From all ive read...

1. Dottie was snagged not caught.

2. It is a fact that kuritas bass weighted more than the world record but didnt beat the 2oz criteria 

3. Everything tom said

[MassYak85]

5 hours ago, Torn Thumb said:

I would love to see everyone's head explode when the next world record comes from somewhere totally unexpected.

Maybe some of the leftover pollutants that settled to the bottom of the Charles river over the years can mutate a 30lber for us to catch 

[Catt]

WRB how many cameras do you believe there were per capita in rural Georgia in 1932?

Having grown up in rural Louisiana in the 1950s & I can guarantee the only certified scales around were at the post office or your local butcher shop.

Perry's bass was accepted based on evidence submitted to Field & Stream for a big bass contest.

[MIbassyaker]

So, does the next record have to beat the Perry bass by 2oz or the Kurita bass by 2oz?

[Redlinerobert]

The next record will be 28 lbs and come from the CA Delta.  There are monsters swimming around in there. 

[Choporoz]

11 minutes ago, MIbassyaker said:

So, does the next record have to beat the Perry bass by 2oz or the Kurita bass by 2oz?

Great question...if continually beaten in 1 oz increments, we could end up with a 25lb bass that only ties those two

[thirtysixit]

7 hours ago, Catt said:

What exactly were the standard operating procedures for recording a world record bass in 1932?

California anglers have tried for years to erase Perry's & now they'll have to overcome Kurita bass!

Prior service much?!?

[soflabasser]

7 hours ago, Torn Thumb said:

I would love to see everyone's head explode when the next world record comes from somewhere totally unexpected.

Would like to see one over 25lbs caught and officially recognized. 

[Catt]

20 minutes ago, thirtysixit said:

Prior service much?!?

Nope years in aerospace industry

[Dwight Hottle]

1 hour ago, MIbassyaker said:

So, does the next record have to beat the Perry bass by 2oz or the Kurita bass by 2oz?

The new world record would have to weigh 22lbs-6ozs or more. The record stands at 22lbs-4ozs even though the Kurita bass weighed 1 oz more. It was considered a tie since it did not beat by 2 ozs or more. 

[BassB8Caster]

Off topic / on topic question....I'm from maine (and slightly off the beaten path if you will) and I've thought about this whole record thing quite a bit. I'm not talking a world record, but state record. What should one do if they were to catch a record bass? I for example fish out of a kayak and may have some difficulties documenting the fish properly. Pics would definitely be taken with some measurements. From some searching I've done, I could not find any source for getting an official scale. Options would be; keep the fish and go to a butcher, post office etc and try to get a weightaste  (then we must consider how to properly keep the fish to not effect the weight). Release the fish with measurements and weight on our own scale (not official but may be enough for most). For me it's not about a name in the books and bragging rights, but for me a passionate fisherman , it would be a pretty cool thing to get into the record books. I think we can all admit that would be pretty d**n cool. I know there is a new record for maine out there and I know some of the smaller ponds I fish have the potential. 

This is a very interesting topic and I feel this fits well. Would love to hear everyone's opinion as one day any one of us may be on the good end with some sort of record fish!

[WRB]

3 hours ago, Catt said:

WRB how many cameras do you believe there were per capita in rural Georgia in 1932?

Having grown up in rural Louisiana in the 1950s & I can guarantee the only certified scales around were at the post office or your local butcher shop.

Perry's bass was accepted based on evidence submitted to Field & Stream for a big bass contest.

 Agree, It was in the Great Depression, the reason the bass was eaten for dinner.  Perry said he sent pictures of the bass so there was a camera. Until cell phone cameras became popular recently very anglers carried cameras in thier boats. I had a disposable Kodak camera in my boat for years, the film usually was cooked whenever I needed a picture! Spring scales, Chatillion laboratory grade 50 lb had weight graduation in 2 oz increments and accurate to +/-1 graduation, may be the logic IGFA uses for their 2 oz rule?

I used to submit bass catches to magazine contest for Field & Stream, Outdoor Life, Sports Afield and IF Master Award programs to get lure prizes and all they required was a entry form filled out, a picture if you had one, no witness or weight validation was needed.

Tom

[WRB]

2 hours ago, MIbassyaker said:

So, does the next record have to beat the Perry bass by 2oz or the Kurita bass by 2oz?

The Kurita bass.

[J Francho]

So, 22 lbs. 7 oz., correct?