ade3rd Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 Going to get a rod for medium diving crankbaits 6-12' range, my two choices are *** *** Black Cranking Rod 7'1" Cranking St. Croix Mojo Bass Glass Cranking Rod 7'4" Medium They're both around the same price because the 13 *** black is on sale at tackle wharehouse. Can someone explain what "crank" means in terms of power, which is what the 13 *** blacks power ratting is. Thank you for any help!! Quote
Onvacation Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 I look at it as a moderate action that compared to their other rods, seems to fall right in between M and MH....maybe more towards the M. It isn't great with deep divers, but I like it with anything from the occasional square bill to an XD5. I have not fished the Mojo crank, but based on my wife's Mojo spinning rod, I'm pretty sure you could flip a coin between those two and find yourself happy. 1 Quote
CrustyMono Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 the top rod is made of 24 ton graphite, rather than the advertised 30 Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted September 9, 2016 Super User Posted September 9, 2016 I would not throw a 12' diving crankbait on a medium power rod. You would definitely need a MH for something like that. Here's what I use/recommend. Squarebills/DT4/DT6/Shad Raps/Wiggle Warts - Medium power (I personally use a Champion 684CB and a Crucrial 7' Med-Mod). DT10/5XD/Rock Crawler/CB12/FF Shad - Med. Hvy power (Champion 705CB/765CB) 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 9, 2016 Super User Posted September 9, 2016 Talking about general use bait casting rods, spinning rods are rated lower. M or 3 is medium power, MH or 4 is medium heavy power as designated by the rod maker without any standard to base it on. Generally power is the lifting force before the rod bottoms out; M is about 3 lbs, MH about 4 lbs. Moderate or fast are actions or how the rod bends from tip down, agian no industry standard but generally fast action rods bend in the upper 1/3 of the rod faster than the lower 2/3. Moderate is more parabolic bend bending closer to the upper 1/2 before the lower 1/2. Most MH moderate crank bait rods work good with diving crank bait 3/8oz to 5/8 oz, heavier lures 3/4 oz to 1 oz suggest using H moderate crank bait rod. You need to pick up the rod, touch and feel how it bends for you to make this decision. St Croix is a better rod co IMO, also look at KVD Quantum and Cashion crank bait rods. Tom 1 Quote
ade3rd Posted September 10, 2016 Author Posted September 10, 2016 Thanks everyone for the advice, does anyone have any reviews on the Cousins 7'3" Med Hvy Glass Reaction/ Cranking rod? Would that rod be a better fit for medium depth cranking? Thanks for any input Quote
Basseditor Posted September 10, 2016 Posted September 10, 2016 Not trying to confuse you, but Kistler Rods has a new series called Feel-N-Reel. It's a graphite butt tapering into a modified glass tip. The rods are super light. I'm leaving for the lake in 2 hours and I can tell you how they fish when I get back. This will be my first time using them. I'm going to be throwing square bills and medium cranks all day. I think this rod will lessen the fatigue compared to my all glass rods. 1 Quote
Robert Riley Posted September 10, 2016 Posted September 10, 2016 14 hours ago, fishballer06 said: I would not throw a 12' diving crankbait on a medium power rod. You would definitely need a MH for something like that. Here's what I use/recommend. Squarebills/DT4/DT6/Shad Raps/Wiggle Warts - Medium power (I personally use a Champion 684CB and a Crucrial 7' Med-Mod). DT10/5XD/Rock Crawler/CB12/FF Shad - Med. Hvy power (Champion 705CB/765CB) this. I have that mojo and I despise it, trying to sell it to a friend. You definitely want to move up to a MH, I used to use a Veritas 7'6MH winch rod, and now I use a FR705cb. The 705cb is the perfect rod for everything south of a 10XD. Quote
papajoe222 Posted September 10, 2016 Posted September 10, 2016 Using a MH mod/fast, Med/ Mod, or any combination cranking rod becomes a personal preference decision. The same goes for glass vs. composite vs. graphite. I personally use a Med Mod/Fast graphite rod for mid-range (6-12ft.) baits in the 3/8oz. catagory and a MH Mod for heavier ones. You may find yourself purchasing a few rods before you arrive at one that suits you. Quote
ade3rd Posted September 11, 2016 Author Posted September 11, 2016 On 9/9/2016 at 11:51 PM, basseditor said: Not trying to confuse you, but Kistler Rods has a new series called Feel-N-Reel. It's a graphite butt tapering into a modified glass tip. The rods are super light. I'm leaving for the lake in 2 hours and I can tell you how they fish when I get back. This will be my first time using them. I'm going to be throwing square bills and medium cranks all day. I think this rod will lessen the fatigue compared to my all glass rods. Yea, please let me know how you liked using them, hope the fishing was good! Quote
Basseditor Posted September 11, 2016 Posted September 11, 2016 9 hours ago, ade3rd said: Yea, please let me know how you liked using them, hope the fishing was good! I used one for top water. I was using Rico popper. And I set up another for 3-6' deep cranks. These are very light rods. I can't believe how easy they were to cast. I got 3 top water bites first thing. The rods worked great. (Unfortunately, the split ring broke on one fish and the hook and fish didn't make it all the way to the boat, costing me first place.) Because the rods are so light, I was thinking they were under powered when I first held them. They worked great, but at least in my mind, I would order a slightly heavier action than I what I intend to use. In other words, get a medium heavy if you want a medium. Casting distance was very good. And even with a glass tip I could feel the crankbaits action. Quote
timsford Posted September 11, 2016 Posted September 11, 2016 I'd take a look at the Powell max 3d cranking rods on Sheltons clothing site for 100 or the tatula or tatula XT cranking rods from Sportsmans warehouse over either of those. The Powell is a composite rod between graphite and glass and is lighter and more sensitive than most glass rods. The tatula lines have both graphite and glass rods for cranking. Quote
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