detroithiker Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Ok the title was a little tricky to word right but bare with me cuz this worked for us. So yesterday my cousin and I were experimenting with casting squarebill cranks to the same target, and it seemed to work really well, the theory was to present two shad pattern baits, hoping it would tempt the bass a little more, this was the first time we ever did it and we caught both bass and pike, the water was still very warm but the air was only about 70° so we fished deeper water and hit the weed edges, now we did have to clean a lot of weed off the bait which was a pain in the ass but the results were worth it for sure, I am not saying I made some sort of break through I just had an idea that worked for me and wanted to see what all the more experienced guys thought. So my question to all of you. Have you ever tried to cast more than one rod to the same target and if so how did it work for you? Quote
jr231 Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 I sometimes rig my line so I'm fishing two flukes at once. Not the "donkey " style rig either that uses a three way swivel. That way didn't work for me as it would get tangled too much as I casted it. I would tie a spring lock unweighted hook first . And then tie another line directly to the bottom of that hook underneath the barb. Usually about 8-12" (you can then use whatever hook you please, I like a 3/0 wide gap) Then I would cycle using two different colors of flukes and if I caught more than one bass on one color in a row, i would change both flukes to that color. . Works pretty decent. I didn't notice much of a loss of action from the lead fluke. Ive also used this method with senkos. But quickly stopped after i found out I'm not made of money and losing two senkos every time I hooked up is not the best idea for me. Quote
riverbasser Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 @Yeajray231 I like your idea for rigging those flukes but I also wanted to tell you the donkey rig does not use a 3 way swivel. Its a standard swivel that slides up and down the main line. Still gets tangled some but thought I'd share. 1 Quote
jr231 Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 @riverbasser well that would explain alot ! Ha-ha I was like this thing is no good !! Thanks for sharing. 1 Quote
j bab Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 I've thought about this but haven't tried it. Seems like it could work if a bigger bait was chasing a smaller one too Quote
detroithiker Posted September 2, 2016 Author Posted September 2, 2016 Ok so my original question was about 2 people each casting their own bait with their own rod to the same target in order to trigger a reaction strike. 2 Quote
riverbasser Posted September 3, 2016 Posted September 3, 2016 50 minutes ago, detroithiker said: Ok so my original question was about 2 people each casting their own bait with their own rod to the same target in order to trigger a reaction strike. Sorry man we aren't trying to hijack but they are the same points. Basically 2 lures fished together to give a small school effect. I have never done what you are asking. seems it would work well especially if there are more than one bass in that spot since it only takes one bass starting to feed to get the other ones fired up as well. 2 Quote
detroithiker Posted September 3, 2016 Author Posted September 3, 2016 13 hours ago, riverbasser said: Sorry man we aren't trying to hijack but they are the same points. Basically 2 lures fished together to give a small school effect. I have never done what you are asking. seems it would work well especially if there are more than one bass in that spot since it only takes one bass starting to feed to get the other ones fired up as well. Thanks, I wasn't upset, I just wanted to hear from the folks who have done this the same way we did so we know if it really works or was just an anomaly, you can learn a lot by asking others. Quote
Super User Montanaro Posted September 3, 2016 Super User Posted September 3, 2016 I think it hits on the concept of saturating a target to aggrevate bass into biting. It was a good plan based on sound experience from pros and weekend fisherman Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 3, 2016 Super User Posted September 3, 2016 So what happens when you cast over each other, who wins? This is reason casting to 1 target is frowned on, tangled lines. Waiting until the first caster clears the target, then a follow up cast is a common team effort. Tom Quote
Super User Catt Posted September 3, 2016 Super User Posted September 3, 2016 Multiple cast to a single target is always a wise decision! I fish a lot of "Team" tournaments, that's 2 angles fishing for a single 5 bass limit. We fish together as a team not as two individuals out fishing When one catches a bass the other should immediately fire a follow up cast to the same spot. When done in unison both anglers can cover water quickly & thoroughly, which allows a greater opportunity to establish patterns faster. 6 Quote
detroithiker Posted September 5, 2016 Author Posted September 5, 2016 On 9/3/2016 at 2:56 PM, WRB said: So what happens when you cast over each other, who wins? This is reason casting to 1 target is frowned on, tangled lines. Waiting until the first caster clears the target, then a follow up cast is a common team effort. Tom Yes, we were kinda working a cadence, it was much easier than I thought, and we did not work it that way all day, just when the target vegetation was the right shape and size to allow use to work both sides, most spots would not allow us to do this due to risk of getting tangled. We were mostly just having fun, not trying to create a ground breaking method or even discover something others didn't. I just enjoyed it and wanted to share it with you folks. Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 5, 2016 Super User Posted September 5, 2016 6 hours ago, detroithiker said: Yes, we were kinda working a cadence, it was much easier than I thought, and we did not work it that way all day, just when the target vegetation was the right shape and size to allow use to work both sides, most spots would not allow us to do this due to risk of getting tangled. We were mostly just having fun, not trying to create a ground breaking method or even discover something others didn't. I just enjoyed it and wanted to share it with you folks. Enjoying yourself on the water is what fishing should be all about. Team tournament partners know each other, however some tend to very completitive and to try to out fish each other. The back seater casting over the front seater can lead to a long day in a tournament, fun fishing should be fun. There is a front runner lure by Wareagle designed to run in front of your main lure. Tom 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted September 5, 2016 Super User Posted September 5, 2016 I don't understand this "fun" fishing concept! I didn't spend all this time on the water, energy, wear/tear on my body & money to practice casting! Catching is way move fun than fishing! If ya have a partner whose front ends ya or casts over ya...cut em loose they aint a friend! When both anglers understand their role regardless of which end of the boat they are in their odds of catching greatly increases. This applies to tournaments or "fun" fishing! 1 Quote
Dschouest42 Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Pertaining to salt water, H&H Lures has had something called the "shad rig" for decades: it is two lures and jigheads tied together at a swivel and they swim together in tandem. Speckled trout and white trout by the millions have fallen victum to it. I have used it when the white trout are blitzing on baitfish, and have doubled up quite a few times 1 Quote
GetBent Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 Me and a friend caught a 5 fish 26lbs stringer on an area about 50 square feet. Most the fish were concentrated in an area about 25 square feet. He threw mostly a square bill and I would follow up with a spinner bait, paddle tail swim bait 5", or a shaky head senko. We culled a lot of 4lbs bass. It was a lot of fun, biggest was an 8lbs bass he caught on a small square bill. It had jacked up hooks and a broken bill- I pleaded with him to change baits before he lost a good fish. He caught another 6lbs bass and shortly after that got broke off on a branch. I never heard the end of it, but we got 4th out of 140 boats so who cares I guess lol I think it would be beneficial to follow up casts with different presentations. 1 Quote
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