LEWITH Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Today I was using a Texas rig with 30lb power pro(Daiwa tatula/blackout MH rod). 3/8oz bullet weight with a 3/0 VMC hook. I could pitch fine and light cast fine but every time when I wanted to get s little distance on a cast and gave it a little more the line would break in air right when I let go of the spool and send the bait flying straight ahead. Happens end to me 5 times today. Switched to a diff rod with 15lb Fluoro and no problem since.... any suggestion? thanks! Quote
Molay1292 Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Try to keep your casts smooth, for a 3/8 ounce weight to snap 30lb test line I would think you may be snapping the casts. Another possibility is you have a bad guide on your rod, but I would think you may have noticed fraying with any type of cast if this was the case. Quote
redbirdsfan44 Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Check your guides and tip to make sure the braided line hasn't warn down a grove that will damage your line. If you're fishing with a rod that has aluminum inserts in the guides I'd bet money that is the problem. 2 Quote
Super User Gundog Posted August 23, 2016 Super User Posted August 23, 2016 I use 30# power pro braid and have never had this happen. Is it getting tangled on the spool. Is it breaking by the knot? 1 Quote
Tim Kelly Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Check the line guide on the reel too. If that's damages it might cause your problem. Quote
KDW96 Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 When you put the braid on, was a backing used? And was it spooled on tight? Sounds like its digging into itself. Every so often i will cast out a good way,to get those top few layers wound back on good an tight. And check all guides with qtips☺ Quote
LEWITH Posted August 23, 2016 Author Posted August 23, 2016 Yes I use backing and it was on tight. It just gives right when I cast it it just snaps but there is no loud noise its like somone just cuts it. Its not the knot slipping either I can see the break in the line. The fluoro did fine when I used it could cast all day long. So weird. Could it be bad power pro? Its new as of this year though... the reel and rod are new as of this year too Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted August 23, 2016 Super User Posted August 23, 2016 Unless you are whipping it out as hard as you can and getting a dead-stop backlash 30lb braid shouldn't just snap like that unless something is weakening the line. Make sure your guides are fine, and make sure your line isn't fraying either due to the weight rubbing on it (can happen with lower quality weights with rough spots) or from the cover you are fishing. The only other thing I could think of is if you snell the hook, and the hook eye is not welded, sometimes the line can pinch in that groove where they bend the wire around to form the hook eye and weaken. Also, I forgot, the most important piece of the puzzle here is WHERE your line is breaking. If it's at the bait, it's not going to be an issue with you rod. If it's in a random spot, it's either your rod or you may need to change out your line if it's old. Quote
Bass Turd Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Do you have a hook keeper in front of the reel on top of the rod? If so it might be catching the line. Put tape around the rod at that point and try another cast. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted August 23, 2016 Super User Posted August 23, 2016 I've straightened out jig hooks with 30# braid. Also snapped it like it was a wet noodle casting a jig when the line wrapped around the tip. You've had some good advice. Can't add any more without being present. Quote
blckshirt98 Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 30lb PowerPro should be like steel cable - if all of the checks people suggested above turn up nothing, that might be a bad batch of line. Quote
Super User MickD Posted August 23, 2016 Super User Posted August 23, 2016 grooved guides will not break line like that, but cracked rings will. Use Q-tip and rotate it inside each guide and tiptop ring. If it snags at all, you have a cracked ring, and the guide must be replaced. I have never seen a spool of "bad braid" with respect to the strength of the line. Rings get broken by the rod hitting the boat or something rigid when jerking a jerkbait or similar action. Did I miss seeing advice to check your line to lure knot? If it's breaking there, you may not have the right knot or tying process. Do you notice the line "jumping off the reel" early in the cast and your having to untangle a single knot right at the spool? Quote
LEWITH Posted August 24, 2016 Author Posted August 24, 2016 Using a palomar and it seems to break right above the lure or some where between the lure and the rod tip. I did notice some fray *** feet above the lure. I was pitching into wooded stuff but I'll throw frogs all day long into wooded stuff and it never frays that easy. I didn't notice any Fraying past 4 feet from the lure. It is sheering off right at the beginning of the cast right when I'm about to release my thumb. Quote
Tim Kelly Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 Have you checked your rod yet? Sounds like the tip ring doesn't have an insert! Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted August 24, 2016 Super User Posted August 24, 2016 Try something, find a ballfield near you. Tie the end of the line to something and walk off the line. I do not think the arbor knot is a problem, but just make sure it is tight on the reel and not slipping. Now slowly walk forward and respool the line. Tie on a 3/8 or 1/2 ounce worm weight depending on the rod specs and the weight of lure you were having loosing. Cast it a bunch. If the line breaks than more than likely it is the line. If it casts okay with no breakage then perhaps the line wound on in some weird way. At least a few worm weights do not cost much. While you are at it, with all of the line out hit the thumb bar then move the spool with your finger see if it rotates easily and does not suddenly catch, there could be a problem with the reel reengaging thus instantly causing the line to stop. i doubt it though. Anyway walk forward and respool the line add the weights and make some casts. If it casts fine you may be good to go. If it has the same problem I would remove the line and spool the reel with some good quality but inexpensive mono like 14 pound Stren Clear Blue. I would replace all of the braid and your backing with the new mono. Cast it and if it also causes problems then you know it is the reel. If no problem I would remove (and save) 1/2 of the Stren and respool the braid. You said you had backing but did not mention what it was. I always use the Stren or BPS Excel (both in14 pound test) The line cost about 3 cents a foot and is thick enough that it will not let braid or fluoro dig in. I hope one of these ideas help resolve the issue. I use a lot of Power Pro Spectra braid in 20, 30, and 65 pound test and it is on at least 4 Diawa, an Exceller, and 3 Tatulas. They all work fine. One last suggestion is this.Years ago I purchased Berkely line station. Cabelas sells them for $20.. I like it because the line spool is held under tension and the reel is held tight. All I have to pay attention to is reeling the line on nice and even under good tension. It is sold elsewhere also but here is what i am using Quote
LEWITH Posted August 25, 2016 Author Posted August 25, 2016 ***UPDATE*** found out the problem. The rod tip guide insert was broken and jagged. I never noticed it before. Thanks for all your help! now I just need to get it repaired. Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted August 25, 2016 Super User Posted August 25, 2016 https://www.amazon.com/Fuji-BFRK4C-Rod-Repair-Kit/dp/B00144CMRA/ref=pd_bxgy_200_img_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=FTMB41V1PRN05AEW4SSE Easy....really Quote
timsford Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 Tip guide is an easy fix. Buy a full kit or order an alconite or other quality tip guide. Grasp the old tip with pliers and heat it with a lighter. The glue will get sift and you can pull the broken tip off. Clean the end of the rod with some lighter fluid and let it dry. Use the lighter to melt new tip glue and slide new one into place. Make sure you test fit it before applying glue. Simple and easy Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted August 25, 2016 Super User Posted August 25, 2016 You can also find a local tackle shop as they often have a guy who does that type of work. Months ago I gave this same advice to a member on here. I made a few calls and found him a shop out in Tennessee ( I live in Baltimore MD. but vacation on lakes near him) The did his repair for less than $10. So it is not a big deal. Glad you found the problem. Make sure to check the rest of the guide inserts while you are at it. Quote
Super User MickD Posted August 26, 2016 Super User Posted August 26, 2016 Molay and Redbirds on Monday gave you the answer. The first and second posts in answer to your question. Then me on Tuesday. Just saying. . . Quote
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