Super User gim Posted November 17, 2016 Super User Posted November 17, 2016 It doesn't even seem like its the same season now watching the Vikings. It seems like they were 4-0 last season, not this season. Somehow, they are still leading the division.
Super User Gundog Posted November 20, 2016 Super User Posted November 20, 2016 34 minutes ago, Jrob78 said: 9-1Â Thanks for that one. Keeping my Steelers in the hunt. And thanks to the Buffalo Bills for beating Cincy. That helps too. 1
Super User MassYak85 Posted November 21, 2016 Super User Posted November 21, 2016 Man what happened to the Packers? I mean their defense seems terrible but is that the only thing to blame?Â
Red Bear Posted November 22, 2016 Posted November 22, 2016 On 11/21/2016 at 0:03 AM, MassYak85 said: Man what happened to the Packers? I mean their defense seems terrible but is that the only thing to blame? i can point out a variety of possible reasons: -Injured players on the o-line, but even then they need upgrades regardless -No running game, aside from poor o-line they just dont have any talent at RB. Lacy, when healthy and not overweight, is extremely overrated, at the same time underused in a pass heavy offense. Starks is a decent role player but not a true #1 workhorse RB. -The secondary is in shambles, Both starting CBs out, and barely average players across the board of those that are healthy enough to play. -Defense lacks talent overall, Clay Matthews getting old and oft injured as well. Packers have given up like 99 points in the last 2 games, and like 160+ points in the last 4 games. -In fact, personnel issues all over the team, lack of playmakers and role players. Young guys are forced into action before theyre truely ready, mostly due to injuries, but also because the GM refuses to utilize free agency to his advantage. And i dont mean going out and spending huge money in free agency, but there are some nice value players to be had who can either start or serve roles. The Packers mantra is to draft and develop, but if you dont draft well EVERY year then youre going to see the results on the field. -Coaching has to be blamed somewhere
IndianaFinesse Posted November 22, 2016 Posted November 22, 2016 28 minutes ago, Red Bear said:  -Coaching has to be blamed somewhere Everyone always has to blame the coach for not having the right players to work with.
Super User Gundog Posted November 22, 2016 Super User Posted November 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Red Bear said: Â -Coaching has to be blamed somewhere Head coaches set the standard for teams. When they interview a player who got traded to the NE Patriots they always say the standards are higher than the team they just came from. You are expected to know the plays, know your position and be ready to play. Its those standards that are missing in some teams. 1
Red Bear Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 21 hours ago, IndianaFinesse said: Everyone always has to blame the coach for not having the right players to work with. Coaches have to be able to adjust to the personnel available to them. They have to know their players strengths and try to scheme the players into positions theyre comfortable with. For example, it would be foolish for coaches to try to force players more suited for zone coverage into constantly playing man coverage. So even if a team has the right players, if the coaches arent putting them into position to succeed then things dont work out so well. Also, here lately Rodgers has made several remarks that have been skeptical of his coaches. There is a possible rift there somewhere.The public may only see a puff of smoke but not see the raging fire behind the scenes. The packers arent accustomed to losing in recent years, now that they are struggling there may be some finger pointing going on within the locker room.  20 hours ago, Gundog said: Head coaches set the standard for teams. When they interview a player who got traded to the NE Patriots they always say the standards are higher than the team they just came from. You are expected to know the plays, know your position and be ready to play. Its those standards that are missing in some teams. I'm not quite sure what youre getting at here. are you saying the packers coaches dont have those standards? Belichek has been highly successful in NE, but his way isnt the only way to a SB trophy. Of course a player who gets traded from say, Cleveland, is going to see a huge difference in the standards. But my remark about the packers coaching has more to do with than just the head coach or their standards. They also have had a success with 7 straight years in the playoffs and a SB win along the way, so i'm sure they have some sort of high standards. My remark has to do with the coaching staff as a whole, I dont think their coaches are horrible by any means, what im saying is that sometimes coaches are too stubborn to adjust their schemes when they lose players to injury and dont have suitable backups to properly execute their scheme as its intended to be run. Coaches need to be able to adjust to the players available to them throughout the season. the packers maybe havent done this 1
Super User gim Posted November 24, 2016 Super User Posted November 24, 2016 The Packers defense is just atrocious right now. Its never been great but it was at least serviceable in recent years, combined with a great offense and a super bowl MVP translated to a lot of wins. Rodgers is still having a good season but they have to score 50 points to win.
Super User deaknh03 Posted November 24, 2016 Super User Posted November 24, 2016 57 minutes ago, gimruis said: The Packers defense is just atrocious right now. Its never been great but it was at least serviceable in recent years, combined with a great offense and a super bowl MVP translated to a lot of wins. Rodgers is still having a good season but they have to score 50 points to win. Rodgers is just average this year..their defense sucks, running game sucks, receivers are average..just not a well put together team..either that or the coaches aren't utilizing players strengths.
Super User A-Jay Posted November 24, 2016 Super User Posted November 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, deaknh03 said: Rodgers is just average this year..their defense sucks, running game sucks, receivers are average..just not a well put together team..either that or the coaches aren't utilizing players strengths. Agreed ~ my prediction for GB - end of season head coaching change. A-Jay
Super User A-Jay Posted November 25, 2016 Super User Posted November 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Jrob78 said: 10-1Â Admit it ~ You're Loving this . . . A-Jay 2
Super User Jrob78 Posted November 25, 2016 Super User Posted November 25, 2016 53 minutes ago, A-Jay said: Admit it ~ You're Loving this . . . A-Jay Heck yeah I'm loving it! 1
Super User Gundog Posted November 25, 2016 Super User Posted November 25, 2016 6-5Â Â I'll take it. Thought the Steelers were gonna get beat by a back-up QB.Â
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 25, 2016 Super User Posted November 25, 2016 16 hours ago, A-Jay said: Admit it ~ You're Loving this . . . A-Jay Back in the day Dallas fielded some mighty impressive teams, but none of those "franchise teams" ever won 10 in a row. Hats off to the 2016 Dallas Cowboys! 2
Super User A-Jay Posted November 25, 2016 Super User Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, roadwarrior said: Back in the day Dallas fielded some mighty impressive teams, but none of those "franchise teams" ever won 10 in a row. Hats off to the 2016 Dallas Cowboys! Yup - and even though Washington played a nice game mostly, that very short schedule turn around was a factor. Either way, you gotta beat the teams you play. The 2016 Dallas Cowboys are Strong & Confident team in all three phases of the game. A-Jay 1
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted November 26, 2016 Global Moderator Posted November 26, 2016 This week was the first time I've gotten to watch the Cowboys this year, very impressive. The way the defense attacked and swarmed the ball made me really glad I'm not an NFL quarterback. A very solid offense lead by a QB that appears to be headed for a great career could spell a winning team for a long time to come. 1
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 26, 2016 Super User Posted November 26, 2016 Chiefs vs The Defending World Champions tomorrow. Should be a great defensive game for two teams without a quarterback! 1
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted November 26, 2016 Global Moderator Posted November 26, 2016 22 minutes ago, roadwarrior said: Chiefs vs The Defending World Champions tomorrow. Should be a great defensive game for two teams without a quarterback! I don't really think so. The Chiefs have been living in a fantasy land, winning games they had no right to win. I'm going to make the prediction now, they don't win another game this season and end up last in the division. They might, just maybe, beat the lowly Titans in KC, the rest are all games they're very capable of losing. 12 NOV 27 7:30PMCST ' AT  BRONCOSGAME DAY   13 DEC 4 12:00PMCST * AT  FALCONS   14 DEC 8 7:25PMCST ' , ;  RAIDERS   15 DEC 18 12:00PMCST *  TITANS   16 DEC 25 7:30PMCST '  BRONCOS   17 JAN 1 3:25PMCST * AT  CHARGERS
Super User deaknh03 Posted November 26, 2016 Super User Posted November 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: I don't really think so. The Chiefs have been living in a fantasy land, winning games they had no right to win. I'm going to make the prediction now, they don't win another game this season and end up last in the division. They might, just maybe, beat the lowly Titans in KC, the rest are all games they're very capable of losing. 12 NOV 27 7:30PMCST ' AT  BRONCOSGAME DAY   13 DEC 4 12:00PMCST * AT  FALCONS   14 DEC 8 7:25PMCST ' , ;  RAIDERS   15 DEC 18 12:00PMCST *  TITANS   16 DEC 25 7:30PMCST '  BRONCOS   17 JAN 1 3:25PMCST * AT  CHARGERS I almost agree..the raiders are a better team than the chiefs this year, and theres 4 games there that will get very physical.
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted November 28, 2016 Global Moderator Posted November 28, 2016 On 11/26/2016 at 6:54 AM, roadwarrior said: Chiefs vs The Defending World Champions tomorrow. Should be a great defensive game for two teams without a quarterback! You were right, I was wrong on that one. I still don't feel like the Chiefs are nearly as good as their record shows and didn't deserve to win this game either, but as a lifelong Chiefs fan, I always enjoy when they beat the Broncos, even more so now that I have a BIL who is a Broncos fan Â
Red Bear Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 8 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: You were right, I was wrong on that one. I still don't feel like the Chiefs are nearly as good as their record shows and didn't deserve to win this game either, but as a lifelong Chiefs fan, I always enjoy when they beat the Broncos, even more so now that I have a BIL who is a Broncos fan  while i feel the same way about the Chiefs, seems like theyre overachievers, theres one thing that people often overlook i believe. and thats Andy Reid, the guy doesnt have a SB ring as a HC, but he is constantly fielding winning competitive teams year after year. I think he is a great coach that doesnt get enough credit.
Super User deaknh03 Posted November 29, 2016 Super User Posted November 29, 2016 12 hours ago, Red Bear said: while i feel the same way about the Chiefs, seems like theyre overachievers, theres one thing that people often overlook i believe. and thats Andy Reid, the guy doesnt have a SB ring as a HC, but he is constantly fielding winning competitive teams year after year. I think he is a great coach that doesnt get enough credit. Great coach...until there's 2 mins or less left..then he's coach pukenstein. 1
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