You_Only_Live_Once_Fishing Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 I recently had a nice setup stolen, I suspect that it is the lake's fish and game warden, he is not a pleasant person. Is there anyway to get it back P.S. I know where he lives
wnspain Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 Is there anyway to prove it's yours? Do you have serial #, any distinguishing marks, receipts, anything? 1
Super User everythingthatswims Posted July 24, 2016 Super User Posted July 24, 2016 If it is the lake's fish and game warden, you have bigger problems to deal with than getting your fishing rod back! 4
Super User scaleface Posted July 24, 2016 Super User Posted July 24, 2016 You suspect ? Proof enough for me . 7
Tracker22 Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 A rogue warden would be difficult to deal with. They have a lot more power than people suspect. I would let it go. 1
Super User A-Jay Posted July 24, 2016 Super User Posted July 24, 2016 Sounds like a job for Deputy Dawg ~ A-Jay 8
Super User geo g Posted July 24, 2016 Super User Posted July 24, 2016 Where was it stolen from? What makes you suspect him.? What state was this in? Sounds like your going to have some solid proof. Getting it back by going to his house is a bad idea!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1
Josh Smith Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 3 hours ago, Tracker22 said: A rogue warden would be difficult to deal with. They have a lot more power than people suspect. I would let it go. What the hell??? You never knuckle under to bullies! It only encourages them. Could it be that someone with your attitude "let it go" and so the suspect was free to steal the OP's setup? 13 hours ago, You_Only_Live_Once_Fishing said: I recently had a nice setup stolen, I suspect that it is the lake's fish and game warden, he is not a pleasant person. Is there anyway to get it back P.S. I know where he lives Doesn't matter much if you know where he lives. Gather your evidence. Present it in writing to your local police force detective, to your lawyer, and the game warden's boss. If you only "suspect" without proof, then don't bother, especially if it was a combo available at WalMart etc. You need to present details. Josh 2
Tracker22 Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 23 minutes ago, Josh Smith said: What the hell??? You never knuckle under to bullies! It only encourages them. Could it be that someone with your attitude "let it go" and so the suspect was free to steal the OP's setup? We're not talking about bullies! We're talking about someone that can legally kill you. Not knowing the whole circumstance, it's best not to become an "unfortunate hunting accident" over a stupid fishing pole. Besides, if you don't have adequate evidence, you may find yourself under constant harassment by his fellow law enforcement agencies. All over a fishing pole? I don't think so. Some people can talk the talk, but can't walk the walk.
Josh Smith Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Tracker22 said: We're not talking about bullies! We're talking about someone that can legally kill you. Not knowing the whole circumstance, it's best not to become an "unfortunate hunting accident" over a stupid fishing pole. Besides, if you don't have adequate evidence, you may find yourself under constant harassment by his fellow law enforcement agencies. All over a fishing pole? I don't think so. Some people can talk the talk, but can't walk the walk. As I said, evidence is key. I can legally kill you and you can legally kill me, but not over anything trivial. Police officers of any sort are held to a higher standard than the rest of us and there's an escalation of force that must be followed. You sound as if you think the game warden can just haul iron and shoot you dead because he feels like it. Surely this isn't what you think..? Abuse of power gone unchecked only encourages abuse of power. As I said, if he has any evidence -- not just a feeling, but evidence -- he needs to write it down and submit it to the state's game commission, local law enforcement, and his attorney. 1
Super User Gundog Posted July 24, 2016 Super User Posted July 24, 2016 Just from the OP's original post it doesn't sound like he has any solid evidence, just a hunch. You need more than that. I would not recommend going to his home. This could be seen as a provocation. If you don't have proof you can't simple accuse someone just because he is not a pleasant person. Unfortunately too many people now-a-days don't think before they act. Think and be reasonable. 2
Josh Smith Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, Gundog said: Just from the OP's original post it doesn't sound like he has any solid evidence, just a hunch. You need more than that. I would not recommend going to his home. This could be seen as a provocation. If you don't have proof you can't simple accuse someone just because he is not a pleasant person. Unfortunately too many people now-a-days don't think before they act. Think and be reasonable. Excellent. Liked.
Super User Further North Posted July 24, 2016 Super User Posted July 24, 2016 4 hours ago, Tracker22 said: A rogue warden would be difficult to deal with. They have a lot more power than people suspect. I would let it go. While I agree that it'd be a bad idea to try to up against the guy directly...if I was certain about it, an anonymous call to the cops reporting you'd seen him stealing fishing equipment wouldn't be out of line. Hint: Don't use your cell phone... 2 hours ago, geo g said: Getting it back by going to his house is a bad idea!!!!!!!!!!!!! Agree. Good way to get shot. 1
Josh Smith Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 Just so I'm not misunderstood, I do not advocate going to his house either. A name, his AO, and agency is plenty. Not sure why you'd want to go to a guy's house on a chance. Josh 2
You_Only_Live_Once_Fishing Posted July 25, 2016 Author Posted July 25, 2016 when we first bought the lake house, my dad uncle and i were fishing, my uncle, a nj resident without a fishing license in pa hooked a massive pickerel. I walked across the 12' by12' dock to get a net. state rules say a help angler can't be more than 10 feet away with a fishing rod in hand. anyway, my uncle got a 375 dollar ticket because the game warden was watching us from a half a mile away with binoculars. other people have similar stories, such as a foreign, non english speaking elderly woman fishing with her grandson. When the rod was stolen, i left it on my neighbors lakefront property with their permission, along with 2 ugly sticks. as a safety measure, i buried the expensive rod under ground, hidden from sight. a placed a lite rock over the line, left the ugly sticks in plain sight. bottom line is you'd have to be watching me to have found it. This was at 10:00 in total darkness. I noticed the warden drive by as i was leaving, and thought nothing of it. 8:00 next morning... i walk to the spot, no fish on any rod. the two ugly sticks are still there. bait on too. i dig up the rod covered in moss and stones... its gone! line is still in the water, clearly cut with bait, recovered the hook. looked all over for it... no luck. i contacted lake security and friends to look out for it. In retrospect, i am at fault for leaving it out and i shouldn't have done it. but who steals the rod of a kid who saved for years to buy this rod. P.S. he also stole my fish trap 5 years ago
Catch 22 Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 Well,I`ll be darned. I always bury my good rods in the dirt too. Who knew 13
You_Only_Live_Once_Fishing Posted July 25, 2016 Author Posted July 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, Catch 22 said: Well,I`ll be darned. I always bury my good rods in the dirt too. Who knew yeah i didn't know better
IndianaFinesse Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 19 minutes ago, You_Only_Live_Once_Fishing said: yeah i didn't know better 31 minutes ago, You_Only_Live_Once_Fishing said: when we first bought the lake house, my dad uncle and i were fishing, my uncle, a nj resident without a fishing license in pa hooked a massive pickerel. I walked across the 12' by12' dock to get a net. state rules say a help angler can't be more than 10 feet away with a fishing rod in hand. anyway, my uncle got a 375 dollar ticket because the game warden was watching us from a half a mile away with binoculars. other people have similar stories, such as a foreign, non english speaking elderly woman fishing with her grandson. When the rod was stolen, i left it on my neighbors lakefront property with their permission, along with 2 ugly sticks. as a safety measure, i buried the expensive rod under ground, hidden from sight. a placed a lite rock over the line, left the ugly sticks in plain sight. bottom line is you'd have to be watching me to have found it. This was at 10:00 in total darkness. I noticed the warden drive by as i was leaving, and thought nothing of it. 8:00 next morning... i walk to the spot, no fish on any rod. the two ugly sticks are still there. bait on too. i dig up the rod covered in moss and stones... its gone! line is still in the water, clearly cut with bait, recovered the hook. looked all over for it... no luck. i contacted lake security and friends to look out for it. In retrospect, i am at fault for leaving it out and i shouldn't have done it. but who steals the rod of a kid who saved for years to buy this rod. P.S. he also stole my fish trap 5 years ago This story doesn't add up at all. I mean really, why would you bury a rod in your neighbors yard underneath "moss and stones" that are going to damage or break your rod. And most people are going to notice a seven foot long strip of ground where something was buried, unless you found a "lite" seven foot long stone to cover it with, so if it really was stolen it could be someone else. 6
Tracker22 Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 The warden may have thought it was stolen gear some kid was trying to hide. 1
Super User Gundog Posted July 25, 2016 Super User Posted July 25, 2016 I'm pretty sure its not legal (in any state) to leave a rod & reel with fishing line and a baited hook in the water unattended. If it was in Pennsylvania the fish commission warden would have every right to take the rod and reel but he definitely would not have left the fishing line in the water. 5
Super User Master Bait'r Posted July 25, 2016 Super User Posted July 25, 2016 This thread is delivering big 2
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