bassguytom Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 Does anyone use deep diving jerkbaits in the summer. This is a thought I had for suspending bass and was wondering if it works. I have some deep diving pointers I was thinking about trying. Any info. is appriciated. 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 22, 2016 Super User Posted July 22, 2016 I have used them with some success but the problem i run into is that there is a lot of grass where i fish and treble baits tend to get hung up more often than i would like. In areas with no vegetation, they do work well. On a side note i grew up in bucks county, levittown to be exact and learned to fish on the delaware river and penn warner with my dad. 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted July 22, 2016 Super User Posted July 22, 2016 I have one ,. I dont remember if it a rebel spoonbill or a smithwick . I havent caught a fish on it . Quote
lakeannaangler Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 I have some luck with the deep diving X rap at Egypt bend in about 13 feet of water. Here there is a lot of timber under the water and I like to jerk the bait into the wood so that it bounces off of it. But when doing this I don't use a typical jerk bait rod, I use a medium heavy rod so I can get that fish away from the timber. I learned the hard way by losing a few jerkbaits to bass running down into the timber and breaking off PS, There is nothing like a smallie destroying a jerkbait right after it deflects of the timber 2 Quote
dsqui Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 yes it works fantastic. just watch your depth on the bait and watch your depth of the tops of weeds and you will do great. the concept i use is like most guys say tick the tops. sometimes you can find a good channel in the weeds between the primary and secondary weed lines these can be a deadly bait my favorite two deep divers are the staysee 90 and the kvd j300 deep Quote
jr231 Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 Try the xrap countdown . If fishing over submerged grass you can count it down until it's just over top and start your retrieve. In other words you don't have to worry about your bait diving too deep or not getting deep enough. I'm a Huge fan. So versatile. My favorite way to fish is cranks and jerk baits. By far. Even tho some days you just can't beat the plastics. Quote
Super User everythingthatswims Posted August 22, 2016 Super User Posted August 22, 2016 @deep @deep @deep @deep 1 Quote
papajoe222 Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 I use them, but retrieve them more like a crankbait than a jerkbait with an occasional twitch. Spoonbills are for trolling and I rarely use them for bass fishing. Quote
Super User deep Posted August 23, 2016 Super User Posted August 23, 2016 52 minutes ago, everythingthatswims said: @deep @deep @deep @deep lol. I'll share what I figured out this summer. All observations are from one reservoir where I had a lot of uneducated offshore bass to work with. There's at least one similarity between KVD and I; we both fish jerkbaits year round! DD jerkbaits were a cold water thing for me until recently although I have been using regular 4-5 feet diving baits in summer for a few years to target bass if/ when they moved closer to the shallows. Anyway, so I had this great pitching bite going in early/ late spring, both targeting shoreline cover and outside grass edges. (Trust me, I'm getting to the point.) Most if not all bites would come on the fall, especially as the season progressed. Actually, I believe over 75% of the fish I've caught there this year were suspended. So pretty much on a whim I decided to try some other baits, including jerkbaits, on these suspended bass. Some baits were epic failures btw, including spinbaits. I have a lot of confidence in those for suspended fish, just not here anymore (for now). I caught crappies by the bucket load on a spinbait 90 though. Early summer, I was catching a bunch (of bass) on shallower baits, the pointer 100 and the pointer 112 seemed to work best. The 110 silent riser worked well too, which of course is not a suspending bait. Not sure why, but neither the regular 110 nor the 110FX caught that many. Then the bass moved down, and I followed them down with deeper jerkbaits. The 110+1 has been a stellar performer all through. I was still catching them on plastics, but from then on it was about 50-50 between jerkbaits and plastics. Fish were on key breaks on structure, usually around green grass. I have tried fishing on the bottom at the correct depths (re: thermocline), but strange as it seems, I found it easier to catch suspended bass here. The big deal about the 110+1 is that it's a DD (medium-ish DD lol) jerkbait that you can actually work like a jerkbait. I believe it goes down to ~8 ft on 12# Tatsu. Megabasses seem to be quite sensitive to line diameter and even line type, so ymmv. I was marking fish even deeper, in the 10+ ft range, and the only two jerkbaits I could reach them with (that I own) are the Staysee 120SP and the Live-X Leviathan. I caught a few fish here and there on either bait, but they weren't biting it real well (hooked outside the mouth/ hanging on to the rear treble/ swipes with no hookups/ etc). So I was searching high and low for a DD *jerk*bait. I ended up buying a KVD deep jerkbait. It doesn't rip very well, in spite of what the ad claims (at least mine doesn't). But it jerks pretty well, and it outcaught the other two DD baits put together. I think being able to work it hard and erratically down deep (rather than sweeping and pausing) was important, as was the suspending/ super-slow rising part. I tried moving baits that would (obviously) either sink or rise when paused, and they weren't that hot either. I didn't catch any giants. I'm not even sure there are any giants in here to begin with. But action was consistent with a *lot* of fun-sized 16"-17" fish, with a few slightly larger ones in the mix. 4 to 5 bass per hour have been about the average. 6 Quote
seyone Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 On July 21, 2016 at 10:12 PM, flyfisher said: I have used them with some success but the problem i run into is that there is a lot of grass where i fish and treble baits tend to get hung up more often than i would like. In areas with no vegetation, they do work well. On a side note i grew up in bucks county, levittown to be exact and learned to fish on the delaware river and penn warner with my dad. What section of Ltown? Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted August 23, 2016 Super User Posted August 23, 2016 13 hours ago, seyone said: What section of Ltown? Holly Hill Quote
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