Everybody's an expert

[scaleface]

I give up my spots all the time . I just toss out a marker buoy .

[J Francho]

1 hour ago, Tim Kelly said:

I'm pretty certain I didn't sit on your balls John.  

Maybe I could have worded that better, lmao.

[Master Bait'r]

16 minutes ago, Paul Roberts said:

 

There are plenty of spots-on-a-spot out there to go around, especially when you factor in timing.

 

Now... what was this thread about??

 

 

Yeah not on my waters.  Most places I fish are smaller ponds and secluded lakes.  Tell one guy, he tells one guy and so on...  Two weeks later there isn't even a shad fry left in it.  Believe me when I say I know what I'm doing and I know my area.  I am this way for a reason.  

[Paul Roberts]

1 minute ago, Master Bait'r said:

 

Yeah not on my waters.  Most places I fish are smaller ponds and secluded lakes.  Tell one guy, he tells one guy and so on...  Two weeks later there isn't even a shad fry left in it.  Believe me when I say I know what I'm doing and I know my area.  I am this way for a reason.  

I hear you. I'm a small water guy now too. And I'm definitely circumspect. I do find though that sharing with the right people comes back around. I can't be everywhere.

[Catt]

15 minutes ago, Paul Roberts said:

 

There are plenty of spots-on-a-spot out there to go around, especially when you factor in timing.

 

Now... what was this thread about??

 

It's about anglers helping anglers!

One major key to being consistent on any body of is to fish it often, when you can not be on the water have friends that can.

That is why I think forums are better than the majority of YouTube videos.

@KU_Bassmaster. has one for KC areas guys that has 296 pgs, 7,383 replies, & was viewed 445,530 times!

Talking about rods, reels, lines, & lures is fun but that don't teach ya how to catch!

[Master Bait'r]

3 hours ago, Paul Roberts said:

I hear you. I'm a small water guy now too. And I'm definitely circumspect. I do find though that sharing with the right people comes back around. I can't be everywhere.

 

Certainly!  If I'm going someplace that's TRULY a bushwack or it has a boat launch it's totally fair game for the share game.  If it's close to home and under the radar though, it's flat out Fight Club Rules haha

[the reel ess]

On 7/18/2016 at 9:57 PM, MassYak85 said:

"And here we have X Plastic worm from XYZ Company in, oh hold on, let me check.......green pumpkin"

*Repeat 30 times*

 

Really boring IMO. The only time I like "unboxings" is if it is an unpackaging and review of a new lure, just to see if I might want to get it. 

Yeah, unboxing tackle is un-fishing IMO.

[Senko lover]

I'm very selective in the ones I watch, but I do enjoy watching vlogs. When I say vlogs, I mean not the fishing/vlogs but the actual vlogs. The only ones I really care about are Roman Atwood's vlogs, they never cease to inspire me and make me laugh.

What the fishing people have done is to realize that there's a huge audience of people who do enjoy vlogs, and production-style videos with less pure fishing content. They've crossed the border between straight fishing content and a different kind of entertainment.

While I remain a large fan of the Youtube fishing community, I do wish they would cut back on the traveling, just film solo videos with less vlogging and more fishing.

But I ain't blaming someone for making a living.

[Further North]

15 hours ago, Catt said:

I look at these YouTube videos pretty much like I look at the website, there are anglers here at all levels of expertise.

It's fairly easy to decern who knows what they're talking about & who is simply repeating what they've read somewhere. 

The difference between to two is experience!

If you goal is to teach others how "catch" my suggestion is to start a thread here under the name of your home lake. 

I started one about Toledo Bend, right know we're at 222 pgs, 5,525 replies, & was viewed 790,391 times!

I'm not saying this to brag but as challenge; how many are willing to give up your home waters?

I do this...but with a caveat: I'll share my home water off-line, or in person.

The lakes are too small to sustain website hot-spotting.

[Further North]

10 hours ago, scaleface said:

I give up my spots all the time . I just toss out a marker buoy .

I had a bunch of old marker buoys...I never use them, I've got GPS...We were on a lake in Canada, where there is a fair amount of spot poaching...

We'd find a worthless spot, usually right before lunch, toss out a marker...then move off a ways to eat...and count the poachers.

One place worked so well we left the buoy there all day, counted 8 different boats in the spot as we moved back and forth that day.

[beardown34]

14 hours ago, Further North said:

We'd find a worthless spot, usually right before lunch, toss out a marker...then move off a ways to eat...and count the poachers.

One place worked so well we left the buoy there all day, counted 8 different boats in the spot as we moved back and forth that day.

Great job!

[K_Mac]

I don't understand this "spot poaching". If I am running and see a marker buoy in an area with no boats around, I may not fish it, but I might take a look to see what it is marking. If it is holding fish and there is no one else on the spot, how is it poaching for me to fish it? Now maybe if it is a multi-day tournament and I know that we are honoring spots, that would a different thing. Of course no tournament fisherman in his right mind would leave a buoy on an unattended spot.

[J Francho]

1 minute ago, K_Mac said:

Of course no tournament fisherman in his right mind would leave a buoy on an unattended spot.

That's the part I don't get. 

[FastVette]

It's the paradigm shift that has been brought about in society by the connected world.  Getting out and doing doesn't matter nearly as much as making sure people are following you.  It's really pathetic IMO.  People should have more dependency on themselves and less on what others think of them.  

[Jonathan Evans]

1 hour ago, FastVette said:

It's the paradigm shift that has been brought about in society by the connected world.  Getting out and doing doesn't matter nearly as much as making sure people are following you.  It's really pathetic IMO.  People should have more dependency on themselves and less on what others think of them.  

YUP, "subscribe to me because .......well just subscribe". I will film myself walking around eating lunch and shopping and stupid sheeple will eat it up.

 

[beardown34]

3 hours ago, FastVette said:

It's the paradigm shift that has been brought about in society by the connected world.  Getting out and doing doesn't matter nearly as much as making sure people are following you.  It's really pathetic IMO.  People should have more dependency on themselves and less on what others think of them.  

just for clarification -- is your intolerance directed towards the people making or the people watching the videos? or just a big generic dose for everyone? to say 'getting out and doing doesn't matter nearly as much' -- the overwhelming majority of the videos from the people i believe most people here are complaining about are of them fishing. yeah they also include the before and after material, but the meat of it is them fishing. but i agree with you. people should have more dependency on themselves and care less of what others think of them. like filling 4 pages worth of everyone agreeing with each other while directing negativity towards people who are not here to defend themselves. that isn't group think at all. 

[Further North]

6 hours ago, K_Mac said:

I don't understand this "spot poaching". If I am running and see a marker buoy in an area with no boats around, I may not fish it, but I might take a look to see what it is marking. If it is holding fish and there is no one else on the spot, how is it poaching for me to fish it? Now maybe if it is a multi-day tournament and I know that we are honoring spots, that would a different thing. Of course no tournament fisherman in his right mind would leave a buoy on an unattended spot.

I did a poor job explaining...

First, it's Ontario...so we were (God help me) walleye fishing.  I'll never do it again.  Really.  Dullest week of fishing I've ever had.

What happens up there on occasion is if some other fishermen see someone having success on a spot, they'll do their best to get there earlier than the folks who found the spot the next day...or they'll get on the spot and camp out.

7 hours ago, J Francho said:

That's the part I don't get. 

Not a tournament. 

[ClackerBuzz]

at times I've been known to take fishing too seriously.  that's usually about the same time a humble beating comes along.

Now Juanelo knows how to always bring the fun on Lake Ketchabigwon.

https://youtu.be/yuvbY6GqkbU

[Cyklops99]

this is like the 50th post in various forums with youtube hate. BUT I do understand where the original poster is coming from. I often take a video camera with me fishing... and often never turn it on... cause I feel I have nothing worth sharing... to share. 

 

youtube isn't about education, it's like tv it's entertainment plain and simple.  a lot of posts are informative which is great others.... not so much,. 

39 minutes ago, ClackerBuzz said:

at times I've been known to take fishing too seriously.  that's usually about the same time a humble beating comes along.

Now Juanelo knows how to always bring the fun on Lake Ketchabigwon.

https://youtu.be/yuvbY6GqkbU

Juanelo rocks!

[FastVette]

On 7/26/2016 at 10:49 PM, beardown34 said:

just for clarification -- is your intolerance directed towards the people making or the people watching the videos? or just a big generic dose for everyone? to say 'getting out and doing doesn't matter nearly as much' -- the overwhelming majority of the videos from the people i believe most people here are complaining about are of them fishing. yeah they also include the before and after material, but the meat of it is them fishing. but i agree with you. people should have more dependency on themselves and care less of what others think of them. like filling 4 pages worth of everyone agreeing with each other while directing negativity towards people who are not here to defend themselves. that isn't group think at all. 

Towards the people making the videos.  It's not intolerance at all.  Just a basic contempt for people who have this abject need to do anything and everything to try to get followers for some website or social media page.  They're free to do as they please though I'll never understand the need.  In the end I guess at least trying to do something and record it for others consumption is better than doing nothing at all though.

[jtharris3]

4 hours ago, FastVette said:

Towards the people making the videos.  It's not intolerance at all.  Just a basic contempt for people who have this abject need to do anything and everything to try to get followers for some website or social media page.  They're free to do as they please though I'll never understand the need.  In the end I guess at least trying to do something and record it for others consumption is better than doing nothing at all though.

While reading your posts, I had to wonder why it bothers you so much what others do in their spare time. Then I found it! Just an observation.

[IndianaFinesse]

5 hours ago, FastVette said:

Towards the people making the videos.  It's not intolerance at all.  Just a basic contempt for people who have this abject need to do anything and everything to try to get followers for some website or social media page.  They're free to do as they please though I'll never understand the need.  In the end I guess at least trying to do something and record it for others consumption is better than doing nothing at all though.

 

57 minutes ago, jtharris3 said:

While reading your posts, I had to wonder why it bothers you so much what others do in their spare time. Then I found it! Just an observation.

Here we go again. This thread isn't gona last much longer.

[FastVette]

18 hours ago, jtharris3 said:

While reading your posts, I had to wonder why it bothers you so much what others do in their spare time. Then I found it! Just an observation.

Who said it bothers me?  I certainly don't let it.  Just because I voice my personal thoughts about something doesn't mean I'm bothered by it.  I observe, come to a conclusion, may or may not voice it, then move on.  If that's being bothered then I'm in trouble for sure.  

Why are you bothered that I seem to be bothered by it?  

18 hours ago, IndianaFinesse said:

 

Here we go again. This thread isn't gona last much longer.

Could this go down that road?  Sure, but it won't on my part.  I don't tend to let things get to me, certainly not opinions being stated on a forum (I run one myself and deal with this stuff a lot, hence it not getting to me).  

Back to the topic at hand, talking about everyone's an expert.........there's all sorts of these videos out there.  You guys ever look at some of the car repair stuff that people put up as supposedly "expert" advice?  Some of that will make your head spin.  I think every field of interest is inundated with the expert types anymore. 

[roadwarrior]

I guess that's a wrap...

Goodnight Irene.