Everybody's an expert

[gim]

12 hours ago, Rick Howard said:

They are better than hunting videos!  Lol.

And it seems like these days that virtually all of the hunting videos are archery hunting for deer, which generally results with a monster buck arrowed in the last 5 minutes.  Anyone that deer hunts knows that doesn't happen more than once or twice in a lifetime of hunting

[Fisher-O-men]

12 hours ago, S. Sass said:

Who is this "we" you speak of? 

You know!

[slonezp]

14 hours ago, K_Mac said:

All the fancy gadgets and gear make fishing more fun, but without knowledge and skill it is of little value in my opinion.  

I agree fishing public water that is heavily pressured generally requires greater skills. Of course plenty of video and good editing can even make guys like me and Slone look good!

Once you master long arming a fish, the rest is easy

[bigbill]

Watching fishing videos is for the wintertime. Fishing is for the warmer weather. Apply all the things you learned over the winter on the water.

[everythingthatswims]

I think y'all are upset that "kids" can  catch them too

[K_Mac]

4 hours ago, everythingthatswims said:

I think y'all are upset that "kids" can  catch them too

You're a absolutely right! Darned kids. STAY OFF MY LAWN!

[slonezp]

4 hours ago, everythingthatswims said:

I think y'all are upset that "kids" can  catch them too

Not at all.

Let me ask you this, since you brought up youth. How does making a video with the intention of getting people to like or follow you, make you better at the sport?  I believe it to be a rarity that fishing and equipment review youtube videos are made for the benefit of those that are watching them. The reality is none of you "kids" are doing something that hasn't been done before.

Why aren't you "kids" making videos on how to read sonar or how to read a topo map or how to follow weather and moon patterns or how to chose presentations based on water temperature and clarity or how to fish current or how to fish a break or how to eliminate unproductive water? The answer is twofold. First, it's because you don't know how, and secondly because it's not entertaining.....to kids

So, go stroke your ego and get people to "like" you and when your done doing that hopefully, they'll still be enough time in your life to learn how to fish

and while you're at it, get off my lawn LOL 

[gim]

39 minutes ago, K_Mac said:

You're a absolutely right! Darned kids. STAY OFF MY LAWN!

Good one!

[slonezp]

And to show you what a good sport I am, I'll be first in line to watch and even purchase a video by Catt or WRB or WayneP or Dwight or Paul Roberts. Possibly A Jay but I don't think I could get thru an entire video listening to that Boston accent. Thank God he does more fishing than talking. 

[A-Jay]

35 minutes ago, slonezp said:

And to show you what a good sport I am, I'll be first in line to watch and even purchase a video by Catt or WRB or WayneP or Dwight or Paul Roberts. Possibly A Jay but I don't think I could get thru an entire video listening to that Boston accent. Thank God he does more fishing than talking. 

A-Jay

 

[soflabasser]

23 hours ago, Rick Howard said:

They are better than hunting videos!  Lol.  

Most types of hunting are boring to watch, but there are certain types of hunting that are entertaining.

[Ratherbfishing]

In the age of Social media (of which this site is one example), people (and especially youth) have somehow come to believe that the world hangs on their every word and action.  Maybe (spoiler alert) its' like telling a child their is no Santa Claus or Easter Bunny but, sorry, we really don't care.  We're too busy finding Pokeman.

[d-camarena]

 

I think y'all are upset that "kids" can  catch them too

Lol no, slonezp summed it up

[J Francho]

You gotta post them up to maintain the 10% discount you're getting for "pro-staffing." lol.

[bigbill]

When there is kids fishing next to me if they show interest in how I fish I stop and help them. Some are surprised to catch bass. Helping the youth is number one.

Then I get adults(older man) who ask me if lures work as I pull out a 2lb bass before I could answer him he says I guess they do. Then he sees me using scents and he asks do scents work as I pull out my next 2 1/2 lb bass he says I guess they do. Then he asked me to scent his spinnerbait. I did. He caught nothing. Why bring one bait, use it for hours? Other fisherman watch me and the next night they have new lures, new rods, reels and tackleboxes. I guess I raised there interest in bass fishing. I'm a field salesman.

[J Francho]

12 minutes ago, bigbill said:

I'm a field salesman.

Nah, you're more than that.  You're an ambassador to the sport.  Good job!

[bigbill]

Most novice fishermen are beaten before they go out. They say I never catch anything. Even the kids. Then I step in. They leave with there confidence way up. It's a teaching about life. You can do anything you put your mind to do. Just stay motivated and focused.

I'm no pro, but the local bass fear me Lmao.

[Paul Roberts]

20 hours ago, slonezp said:

And to show you what a good sport I am, I'll be first in line to watch and even purchase a video by Catt or WRB or WayneP or Dwight or Paul Roberts. 

Well.... I've been working on just such an animal: a video documentary on bass behavior, shot from both above and below. Got the spawn pretty much wrapped up and am working my way through the year. Not sure where to put it: YT, Vimeo, a pro videographer I know suggested I contact outdoor channels. I don't think I have the visual quality to make TV though. I'm shooting in/on public waters with clarity limitations (there's a reason Glen Lau moved to FL), but I've got some good stuff. As to fishing vids, I'm making some of those too -with actual content. We'll see how it all shakes out. Not ready to publish yet. Quality takes time.

[everythingthatswims]

23 hours ago, slonezp said:

Not at all.

Let me ask you this, since you brought up youth. How does making a video with the intention of getting people to like or follow you, make you better at the sport?  I believe it to be a rarity that fishing and equipment review youtube videos are made for the benefit of those that are watching them. The reality is none of you "kids" are doing something that hasn't been done before.

Why aren't you "kids" making videos on how to read sonar or how to read a topo map or how to follow weather and moon patterns or how to chose presentations based on water temperature and clarity or how to fish current or how to fish a break or how to eliminate unproductive water? The answer is twofold. First, it's because you don't know how, and secondly because it's not entertaining.....to kids

So, go stroke your ego and get people to "like" you and when your done doing that hopefully, they'll still be enough time in your life to learn how to fish

and while you're at it, get off my lawn LOL 

There are a lot of channels out there with people who fit the stereotype that is being discussed in this thread, but there are a handful of fishermen on YouTube that I have learned a lot from, just like I learn on here.

[frogflogger]

Youtube? There are guys fishing on youtube? Huh. what is youtube

[Paul Roberts]

There is a lot of fishing content on YT, actually. But, it seems some of the most popular vlogs appear to be primarily social in nature, rather than content oriented. The audiences for these seem to be young people. YT is the new TV.

[contium]

There are a lot of good fishing shows on youtube. There are even more bad ones. I mean who really needs to see someone eating breakfast before fishing? My favorite is when a guy fishes all day, catches one or two fish and then discuses the "pattern" the fish were on and starts whoring out the tackle he used including stuff he didn't catch fish on lol.

[HeavyDluxe]

Hey, look... there's good content and bad content, to be sure.  But I don't know how any sportsman can see this raft of content from younger outdoorsy people as a bad thing (assuming it's not the disrespectful-to-others, jackass crap).

We're under increasing pressure from all sides to see fishing and hunting access curtailed. And there are more and more things competing for our young people's attention.  I, for one, am very glad there are some other seemingly decent kids out there catching my kid's attention with fishing and enjoying time with friends more than playing Rokepon Jump or Go or whatever it is.  It makes my kids wanna get off their butts and fish with their friends.  That's a win, people.

More than that, I think you're underestimating some of these anglers.  Two things:

1. Youtube has, to a certain degree, made content more 'real'... Because production can happen at the drop of a hat, vloggers will post video of a day they get skunked on the water because, well, people will watch it anyway and they'll head back out tomorrow to just film more.  I actually appreciate the honesty of them posting days getting skunked more than I appreciate the highly-glossed, clearly manufactured stuff that passes for most fishing shows.
2. I can't help but think that most of these kids would easily keep pace with us on any body of water... And, honestly, I bet they'd whip most of us.  It takes a special kinda stupid to spend that much time on the water and not actually learn to be a better angler.  I'm jealous of them, truthfully.

In the end, many of these yootoobers have figured out a way to make a living (or at least earn some spending cash or just have fun) doing something they love.  There are a whole ton of weekend angler dreamers around here who'd love to do the same.

Not all the content is good... but all this content IS good for the sport and sportsman alike, I think.

[slonezp]

4 hours ago, HeavyDluxe said:

Hey, look... there's good content and bad content, to be sure.  But I don't know how any sportsman can see this raft of content from younger outdoorsy people as a bad thing (assuming it's not the disrespectful-to-others, jackass crap).

We're under increasing pressure from all sides to see fishing and hunting access curtailed. And there are more and more things competing for our young people's attention.  I, for one, am very glad there are some other seemingly decent kids out there catching my kid's attention with fishing and enjoying time with friends more than playing Rokepon Jump or Go or whatever it is.  It makes my kids wanna get off their butts and fish with their friends.  That's a win, people.

More than that, I think you're underestimating some of these anglers.  Two things:

1. Youtube has, to a certain degree, made content more 'real'... Because production can happen at the drop of a hat, vloggers will post video of a day they get skunked on the water because, well, people will watch it anyway and they'll head back out tomorrow to just film more.  I actually appreciate the honesty of them posting days getting skunked more than I appreciate the highly-glossed, clearly manufactured stuff that passes for most fishing shows.
2. I can't help but think that most of these kids would easily keep pace with us on any body of water... And, honestly, I bet they'd whip most of us.  It takes a special kinda stupid to spend that much time on the water and not actually learn to be a better angler.  I'm jealous of them, truthfully.

In the end, many of these yootoobers have figured out a way to make a living (or at least earn some spending cash or just have fun) doing something they love.  There are a whole ton of weekend angler dreamers around here who'd love to do the same.

Not all the content is good... but all this content IS good for the sport and sportsman alike, I think.

While I don't disagree with you, I think young people trying to push products rather than push the sport is doing a disservice. to the young people watching the videos. I'd much rather see a kid show another kid how to bait a hook and cast a line than talk about his Shimano reel and Loomis rod and KVD crankbait....and it's not only kids. Plenty of adults filming themselves catching 15" bass editing the videos with a heavy metal song and posting the videos online.

I mentioned earlier, education is what sells the sport and makes people better fisherman, not some mope sight fishing with senkos 

[hoosierbass07]

I subscribe to a lot of youtube fishing channels.  Seems recently there are a lot of travel videos/blogs showing the fishermen hooking up with each other and fishing.  I don't find that stuff too interesting, particularly when a good number of them seem to be kids/teens.  Watching them drive on an interstate, stopping and eating lunch, then going fishing with their youtube buddies is not interesting to me.  I'm not impressed by people going to famous lakes that hold large bass and catching large bass. 

 I've tried to do some fishing videos in the past and have a few with high viewer counts but, it takes a lot of video to do those videos.  At least for me, I had my video camera on almost all the time and most of the time I was not catching anything.  So I ended up with a lot of boring video.  Plus, for me it is a hassle to set up my camera on my kayak.  OK, not really a hassle, but when I take three rods, a ton of fishing lures, then it all becomes a hassle and not fun anymore. 

 I did watch a video were a group of young guys walked around ICAST and seem to act sort of childish or punk like.  I'm totally turned off by that sort of behavior.  Adults joking around with adults at ICAST is fine.  Young people joking around at ICAST is not.