OCdockskipper Posted July 19, 2016 Author Posted July 19, 2016 On 7/17/2016 at 6:06 PM, Sam said: If I was in the same position, I would have trolled over to the guy and offered some suggestions and even shared a plastic worm or two. I have done that with kids and with adults who call me over & ask questions. I even spent about 20 minutes with a teenager showing him how to skip the Senko's I gave him so he could at least hit the docks on either side of the greenbelt areas as he walked the lake. However, I hesitated doing that with this guy because I was concerned about him taking it as an insult. I didn't want it to come across that I felt sorry for him so I was going to come over and teach him how to fish. I learned years ago that when you have success at something and offer unsolicited advice (to adults), a lot of people take it the wrong way and accuse you of being arrogant. Instead I try to smile & be friendly and if anyone asks how or for help, then I'm more than willing to open up. Kids are different, they are getting advice whether they want it or not... 3 Quote
OCdockskipper Posted July 19, 2016 Author Posted July 19, 2016 12 hours ago, Torn Thumb said: This is the reason that I personally as a bank fisherman despise boaters. That's not gonna get or keep kids interested in fishing by being arrogant or showboating. Maybe the guy can't afford a boat. You were obviously doing it to stroke your ego otherwise you wouldn't be bragging about it here. I'm not gonna pat you on the back. You are correct, it did feed my ego, that's why I called myself a jerk and publicly outed myself. It is a competitive thing, always wanting to be good at what I do (albeit not necessarily better than others, just good at it myself). I didn't post it looking for a pat on the back, rather to see if many other anglers sometimes do the same thing or feel the same way. However, if someone else catching fish from a boat bothers you as a bank fisherman, I think that may be your problem more than theirs . If the boater is yelling like Ike with every fish or crowding you, then yes, they are arrogant & showboating. But if they are just fishing, is catching something within your sight now a micro-aggression? I know if I am not catching anything and someone catches fish in front of me, I don't dislike that person, I want to learn from him. As far as the guy not being able to afford a boat, I'm fishing from a Pond Prowler and this guy lives here in Lake Forest (in south Orange County) in order to be able to fish this lake. Trust me, he can afford my boat... 3 Quote
Red Bear Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 17 hours ago, gimruis said: I'm with blackshirt on this one. When I see the foreigners piled up on shore keeping every 4 inch sunfish they catch go in a bucket and I land a decent bass within sight of them, its very satisfying to release it so they can see me do it. and whats your problem with this? so long as theyre legally fishing that is. It shouldnt bother you one bit. you fish your way, bucket fishermen fish their way. you can make all the assumptions you want, but it doesnt make you right and them wrong as long as know laws are being broken. i get pleasure from catching the fish, not showing it off to others... 13 hours ago, N Florida Mike said: If I was catching and keeping fish( which I often do) , i could care less if I saw someone catch a fish and let it go, because thats their business, not mine.But if I want to keep what I catch, then thats my business not yours. Neither is wrong. i agree 100% 1 Quote
CarlF Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 its amazing what happens when you have a boat lol 1 Quote
Nice_Bass Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 Then I am a couple steps beyond you... my favorite thing is to do that to tx fisherman. That, or when they are all waiting in the marina for takeoff and I get to fly out of there and start fishing some of the spots first... Quote
toni63 Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I've kind of noticed there are a few different kinds of people fishing, like any hobby. There are people who want to be good at it for their own personal satisfaction and don't pay much attention to anyone else, and then there are people who want seem to get their enjoyment from being "better at it" than other people, like its a competition to them. If someone ever noticed me catching a fish, I couldn't tell you when it was, where it was, what they looked like, or what size the fish was. I fish purely because I enjoy fishing. I really pay no attention to other people apart from avoiding them as much as possible so as not to infringe on their fishing or hamper my own. To each his own. 1 Quote
BassB8Caster Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 It's one thing to want to help others. There is no better feeling than to lend a helping hand. However, if one needs to get self gratification and ego stimulation and virtually live through others, then that is just sad IMO. To me the whole point of fishing (and hunting for that matter) is for soul stimulation and relaxation. Getting out in nature challenging other creatures admiring wildlife and peacefulness. That to me is what it is all about. I live for my wife, my new born daughter and my family. But for my own soul, getting one with nature just recharges my batteries. At the end of the day when I lay my head on my pillow I'm extremely grateful for all I have. I don't need to live through others to feel better. That's not to say losing a giant doesn't haunt me a little! 1 Quote
Super User bigbill Posted July 20, 2016 Super User Posted July 20, 2016 One guy I meet fishing everyday swears by live minnows. We're fishing a drop off in the submerged weeds. His live bait against my keeps timber doodle size 0 silver blade white grub split double tail trailer. We had doubles together then the timber doodle out fished live bait. Another day different guy same place using a yellow grub against my mister twister dragon fly. The Dragon fly out fished the grub. I split shot rigged it and dropped it in every open weed pocket. Then pulled it up like a hatching dragon fly. I haven't used live bait in many decades. Quote
FrogFreak Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 A couple weeks ago my son and I were fishing from my boat at a local smaller lake where we've had success. That morning the fish weren't hitting on the weed break like they normally do so we started fishing shallow. One of the locals yelled at us from his yard that we were fishing too shallow and we needed to fish deep. We then proceeded to catch about 20 fish in a 200 yard stretch of shallow water. I did look back at him at one point and I couldn't help smiling. Quote
Nice_Bass Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 22 hours ago, BassB8Caster said: To me the whole point of fishing (and hunting for that matter) is for soul stimulation and relaxation. Getting out in nature challenging other creatures admiring wildlife and peacefulness. I would have to disagree with this part lol.... bow hunting is for being out in nature and having a challenge and peace...gun season is for filling the freezer rapidly with friends!! 1 Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted July 21, 2016 Super User Posted July 21, 2016 13 minutes ago, Nice_Bass said: ...gun season is for filling the freezer rapidly I know a lot of hunters who'd sadly disagree Quote
tiredbobmarley Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 I caught one while the tour boat full of tourists was rolling up beside my jon boat. Held it up to a round of applause before releasing it....and hell yes it felt good, hahaha. 1 Quote
Rick Howard Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 Ah yes, I too can't help myself at times. My work schedule is irregular. I'm often fishing when many are on their way to work. I fish a bridge that many of them cross to get to work. I see the, staring (dreaming mostly) as they drive past. Catching a fish for them to see is nice. Honks appreciated. Quote
Airman4754 Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 On 7/17/2016 at 4:36 PM, scaleface said: I bet you wouldnt have did that if they were bass fisherman in a boat . LOL I had a bass on one day and a boat was coming by I acted like nothing was happening and then the bass jumped ...That was the last good day I ever had at that spot . "You catching anything?" "Nope" Quote
BassB8Caster Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 On 7/21/2016 at 9:26 AM, Nice_Bass said: I would have to disagree with this part lol.... bow hunting is for being out in nature and having a challenge and peace...gun season is for filling the freezer rapidly with friends!! Well it depends on what type of hunter you are. I grew up in small town country areas with big woods. Deer around here are almost impossible to pattern. Years of trail cameras prove this. There is just too many areas that provide food, beds trails etc for them to travel. We also don't sit on field edges with long range guns picking them off at 150 to 200 yards. Most shots are 30 yards or closer and usually in some sort of brush. Every area is different. But just because one hunts with a gun doesn't necessarily mean they can just pick off deer and fill up the freezer. You can still do all the things a tree standing bow hunter does. I guess that's not how you hunt with rifles Quote
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