WalkerJD Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 so whats the difference between Seaguar InivzX fluorocarbon and seagur tatsu fluorocarbon, is it just more expensive, less memory, better knot strength, and etc... Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted July 14, 2016 Super User Posted July 14, 2016 Tatsu is double structured: Double Structure Fluorocarbon (DSF) creates two custom, 100% Seaguar fluorocarbon resins: a softer exterior resin to enhance knot strength and a high-density interior resin to improve tensile strength that are extruded together as one solid piece. 1 Quote
WalkerJD Posted July 15, 2016 Author Posted July 15, 2016 9 hours ago, Team9nine said: Tatsu is double structured: Double Structure Fluorocarbon (DSF) creates two custom, 100% Seaguar fluorocarbon resins: a softer exterior resin to enhance knot strength and a high-density interior resin to improve tensile strength that are extruded together as one solid piece. so which one has the lowest memory Quote
via Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 I have used both lines but only in 4lb test for finesse application. To me, the tastu have the lower memory and also more abrasion resistance. Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted July 15, 2016 Super User Posted July 15, 2016 11 hours ago, WalkerJD said: so which one has the lowest memory The general consensus seems to be Tatsu is the better handling, but InvizX isn't far behind, especially for the price difference. I use them both, and haven't had any problems with either - but then again, fluorocarbon in general has never given me handling problems like many complain of. Haven't figured out a good way to quantify "memory." -T9 2 Quote
Oklahoma Mike Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 Has anyone tried their new Finesse FC yet? Priced similarly to Tatsu. I'm debating picking some up for use on smaller plastics and wondering how it compares to and differs from Tatsu. http://www.seaguar.com/freshwater/fluorocarbon.html 1 Quote
Robert Riley Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 On 7/15/2016 at 3:18 PM, Oklahoma Mike said: Has anyone tried their new Finesse FC yet? Priced similarly to Tatsu. I'm debating picking some up for use on smaller plastics and wondering how it compares to and differs from Tatsu. http://www.seaguar.com/freshwater/fluorocarbon.html Now I have to try it. Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted July 15, 2016 Super User Posted July 15, 2016 I just saw the new FC showcased at ICAST suspect its not on sale just yet. FWIW I use tatsu as leaders for finesse applications. I use InvizX for spooling on my baitcasters. Love both. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted July 15, 2016 Global Moderator Posted July 15, 2016 I have used Invisex for years until I tried Sniper..won't be going back. Mike Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted July 16, 2016 Global Moderator Posted July 16, 2016 Tatsu is worth every penny to me. It's incredibly strong and smooth handling. I was about done with fluoro until I tried it. Quote
offsidewing Posted July 16, 2016 Posted July 16, 2016 6 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: Tatsu is worth every penny to me. It's incredibly strong and smooth handling. I was about done with fluoro until I tried it. Ditto. Tatsu is amazeb@lls Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted July 18, 2016 Super User Posted July 18, 2016 Tatsu is very good, but it doesn't stand up to jagged rocks when you're grinding deep cranks over it. I'm going to try Gamma next. IMO, Tatsu isn't worth the price, even though it's very good (though the abrasion resistance is meh). Quote
Airman4754 Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 8 hours ago, iceintheveins said: Tatsu is very good, but it doesn't stand up to jagged rocks when you're grinding deep cranks over it. I'm going to try Gamma next. IMO, Tatsu isn't worth the price, even though it's very good (though the abrasion resistance is meh). I've never found anything in the same league for deep cranking as 8lb CXX. It's the best abrasion resistant line I've ever used, it has a tensile strength of over 20lbs, and it's small enough in diameter to not get that awful memory you normally would with the bigger test CXX. Then when you throw in the price it's a slam dunk. 1 Quote
thebillsman Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 I exclusively use InvizX with my FC applications. I tried 14# Sniper and just had really bad luck. I've only heard excellent things about Tatsu, but for the price of InvizX on eBay and how well it performs I can't jump ship. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted July 18, 2016 Global Moderator Posted July 18, 2016 18 minutes ago, thebillsman said: I exclusively use InvizX with my FC applications. I tried 14# Sniper and just had really bad luck. I've only heard excellent things about Tatsu, but for the price of InvizX on eBay and how well it performs I can't jump ship. Curious, what bad luck did you have with Sniper? I switched from Invisex and like it much better. Mike Quote
thebillsman Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, Mike L said: Curious, what bad luck did you have with Sniper? I switched from Invisex and like it much better. Mike It was just too stiff. I fish Lew's, and even with both Mag/Centr. brakes fully adjusted I could just not cast a lure the way I wanted. I don't want to say it was unmanageable but.. I should probably try a lighter test before I judge the line. Quote
Dypsis Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 35 minutes ago, thebillsman said: I exclusively use InvizX with my FC applications. I tried 14# Sniper and just had really bad luck. I've only heard excellent things about Tatsu, but for the price of InvizX on eBay and how well it performs I can't jump ship. Sniper IMO is the best bang for the buck when it comes to FC. I have Tatsu on 2 rods and LOVE love love it, but it certainly is pricey!!!!!!!!!!! Give sniper another try. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted July 18, 2016 Global Moderator Posted July 18, 2016 I agree with Dypsis.. I use flourcarbon almost exclusively, certainty for anything with a single hook other than punching matt's. Believe me when I tell you I've tried a bunch of them, other than Tatsu however. It may be better in a lot of ways and have no reason to doubt anyone's opinion, but for me my search ended at Sniper. Try a few squirts of L&L before an outing and it will definitely help. Now, all that being said if they stopped making it, Tatsu would be my first choice Mike Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted July 18, 2016 Super User Posted July 18, 2016 43 minutes ago, thebillsman said: It was just too stiff. I fish Lew's, and even with both Mag/Centr. brakes fully adjusted I could just not cast a lure the way I wanted. I don't want to say it was unmanageable but.. I should probably try a lighter test before I judge the line. What # Sniper did you try? Keep in mind line diameter varies widely among brands and the different series of lines. I use 10-12# for most of my casting reels with just a few that get 15#. Once you hit 15# most lines get a bit more stiffer and difficult to cast unless you are using something quite heavy. A little KVD line and lure helps too especially if it has been on the reel for some time. Quote
jhc1 Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 I currently have 8lb Tatsu paired with a 2500 sz. Shimano Sedona FE spinning reel and I am in absolutely no way impressed. It may be because 8lb is too large of a diameter, but I constantly get knots (while closing the bail manually), and there is considerable memory even though I spray L&L the night before every outing. Not sure what I'm missing here, but Tatsu was the first fluoro I've tried, so maybe I just expected more. Quote
Tygaiser7 Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 4 hours ago, Mosster47 said: I've never found anything in the same league for deep cranking as 8lb CXX. It's the best abrasion resistant line I've ever used, it has a tensile strength of over 20lbs, and it's small enough in diameter to not get that awful memory you normally would with the bigger test CXX. Then when you throw in the price it's a slam dunk. I use cxx also and I like it so far. Just started using it this year Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted July 27, 2016 Super User Posted July 27, 2016 On 7/18/2016 at 9:10 AM, Mosster47 said: I've never found anything in the same league for deep cranking as 8lb CXX. It's the best abrasion resistant line I've ever used, it has a tensile strength of over 20lbs, and it's small enough in diameter to not get that awful memory you normally would with the bigger test CXX. Then when you throw in the price it's a slam dunk. I would imagine it does well with some KVD Line and Lure. Quote
OnthePotomac Posted July 27, 2016 Posted July 27, 2016 A 15lb 1000yd spool of InvisX is on Amazon for $89.00. The 15lb is .013 " in diameter. That is a really huge savings if you want a lot of it on hand. Quote
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