Line Size for Whopper Plopper?

[dsqui]

just use strait braid that lure is big and loud no need for a leader.  besides if you use 30 pound braid why size down to 15 for a leader just run 15 braid you will be fine

[Brett's_daddy]

So my rod is a MH but my wife has this rod http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/quantum-kevin-van-dam-tour-series-74-medium-action-spinning-rod?a=1769739, it's rated up to a 1 oz. lure weight just like my Fenwick HMG so should she be able top throw the 130 size too (yeah, it's a little heavier than lure weight suggests but many people throw a little heavier than suggested)?

[MassYak85]

The 130 I throw on my jig rod which has 40lb braid, the 90 I throw on 20lb braid. 

[Brett's_daddy]

So if we went with 30lb. braid that would be a happy medium?

[webertime]

30lb braid is ~8lb diameter.  It should be fine on a spinning reel.  The leader is to keep the treble hooks from tangling in the braid, it will happen with straight braid.

[Brett's_daddy]

What about my wife's rod in the above post...should she be able to throw both the 130 and 90 also? The leader sounds like a good idea too...got to practice my Alberto knots!!!

[Brett's_daddy]

Anybody want to chime in on the ability of my wife's rod to throw these lures?

[kstephes033]

Honestly, its worth just learning to use the baitcast outfit. Spinning gear is less than ideal no matter the combo. Line wise i throw the whopper plopper 90 a lot and i have found 20LB mono is the best by far for the lure. Braid tends to drag it down a little at the beginning of a long cast as it is thinner in diameter and can eventually soak up a little water that drags it down a little more. 20LB mono will help to keep that nose up and gets better action. I throw my whopper ploppers with a 7'2" MH rod which works well for the 90 size, probably under powered for the larger 130. Also i did have the KVD spinning rod, way way too lite for anything of that size. 1oz is kind of a joke of a rating for that rod. 

[Brett's_daddy]

We'll probably do a mono leader and use the 15lb. Big Game, would 2ft. be a decent sized leader?

[Brett's_daddy]

How long of a leader should you use with these?

[Bluebasser86]

2 hours ago, Brett's_daddy said:

How long of a leader should you use with these?

I wouldn't (and don't), use a leader with them. That leader knot is just one more thing to fail and the stretch/shock absorbency you're getting from 2' of mono is so minimal it's not worth it.

[Brett's_daddy]

I think somebody said that a direct tie with braid could catch on a treble hook and foul the lures action is the reason for a leader. I do plan on going up in braid size to at least 30lb if not 40lb.

[Fisher-O-men]

On 7/7/2016 at 6:42 AM, Brett's_daddy said:

Anybody want to chime in on the ability of my wife's rod to throw these lures?

The 130 would be marginal on that rod.  As to a leader, yeah the front hook does foul occasionally, but not often enough for me to use a leader.  

[Onvacation]

The 130 gives my MH bait casting rod a workout so I wouldn't even think of throwing it on a M.  Just drop down to the 90 if she wants to throw it on a M.

 As for line, I have no problem with straight braid.  If it fouls, unfoul it and throw it again.  I have more issues if I get too close to a lily pad because if the lure catches it, the hooks will rip the leaves and that will definitely throw off the action of the lure. 

[Fish4bigfish]

I throw the 130 quite a bit. Here is what I use. Dobyns fury 795 sb my light swimbait rod and a daiwa tatula hd 6:4:1 spooled with 20 lb cxx. Same combo I throw my mattlures gills, huddgills and rats on. 

Any lure like this I don't use leader knots. These lures can attract a big bite. 8 lb fish in the grass have a funny way of testing your leader knot and I would rather not take the chance. 

[the reel ess]

I use 15# Berkley Big Game mono for all my topwaters as well as lipless cranks. It's strong, has some stretch and floats, which makes it good all-around for topwaters and trebles. It took me a long time to settle on it, but I haven't been sorry once.

[MassYak85]

5 hours ago, Brett's_daddy said:

I think somebody said that a direct tie with braid could catch on a treble hook and foul the lures action is the reason for a leader. I do plan on going up in braid size to at least 30lb if not 40lb.

I fished the 130 yesterday, for probably 7-8 hours straight, in windy conditions, on straight 40 lb braid. I could count the number of times the line fouled the lure on one hand. You will be fine. It casts very well and shouldn't spin in the air too much where a treble hook might catch on the line. 

 

[Bluebasser86]

The WP is a straight retrieve bait. There's no reason it would foul any more than any other treble hooked bait during the cast. They all foul while tumbling through the air from time to time, but the 130 cast like a bullet, it rarely fouls with 50# straight braid I fish it on. 

[XzyluM]

2 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

The WP is a straight retrieve bait. There's no reason it would foul any more than any other treble hooked bait during the cast. They all foul while tumbling through the air from time to time, but the 130 cast like a bullet, it rarely fouls with 50# straight braid I fish it on. 

I have not had any problems with the hooks fouling either. I throw the 130 on a heavy with 65lb braid. I did upgrade the hooks and upsize them though. I'm surprised at the number of people wanting to throw a 130 on a medium or medium heavy. I tried it on a medium heavy with 50lb braid when I did not have my heavy with me and I wasn't comfortable with it at all. Felt like I had a brick tied on. Can easily cast it to the backing without much effort at all. 

[Arobb2012]

I just bought the 90 size wp. I'm going to throw it with my 7ft medium with 12 lb flouroclear. Any possible problems with this setup?

[Dypsis]

39 minutes ago, Arobb2012 said:

I just bought the 90 size wp. I'm going to throw it with my 7ft medium with 12 lb flouroclear. Any possible problems with this setup?

FC sinks, I throw mine with Mono, but its not a pause type bait, but a steady retrieve.  Try it and see how it goes - might be that you have to reel it too fast to keep it up, but again try it out.  

[Arobb2012]

I used my wp yesterday and the only issue I had was line twist. I had a bad twisted knot cause a big backlash and I had to pull off about 50 feet of line and cut it off cause it was twisted so bad. Does braid resist twisting? I was thinking about getting and seeing if it worked better.

[Dypsis]

16 minutes ago, Arobb2012 said:

I used my wp yesterday and the only issue I had was line twist. I had a bad twisted knot cause a big backlash and I had to pull off about 50 feet of line and cut it off cause it was twisted so bad. Does braid resist twisting? I was thinking about getting and seeing if it worked better.

You throwing on spinning gear?

I throw top water baits (trebles) on mono, I find and not that it's very often but a treble hook can get wrapped around the braid from time to time.  Not a huge deal, but it certainly can ruin a great cast.  

[MassYak85]

On 7/21/2016 at 10:17 AM, Dypsis said:

FC sinks, I throw mine with Mono, but its not a pause type bait, but a steady retrieve.  Try it and see how it goes - might be that you have to reel it too fast to keep it up, but again try it out.  

Yea I would shy away from fluorocarbon. It will sink and especially if it is windy and their is some chop on the water, it will pull it under and you won't get that nice load "plop" noise that it makes. 

 

I wouldn't be afraid to pause it for long periods of times though, that's one of it's main advantages over something like a buzzbait. A steady retrieve has been my number one producer, but adding pauses in can be deadly too, especially if you pause it right at the end of a piece of cover like a dock. 

[YakPirate]

i recently picked up a few 90 WP's after reading about all the success on the forums. i ran them on a 7ft med/heavy rod w/ Shimano FK 4000 (w/no reverse, love this feature!!) reel lined with 10lb Power Pro which is 2lb mono equivalent with no issues. Although i did not hook up that day, i felt that it would have been adequate, and casts a mile.

good luck