Super User Jar11591 Posted July 4, 2016 Super User Posted July 4, 2016 Durant signed a 2 year/$54.3 million deal with the Warriors. Hard to believe that a 73-9 team just added the best individual scorer in the game. Should be interesting. What do you think? Quote
mrmacwvu1 Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 I would also bet money that they will win 10 less games during the regular season. There are only so many shots per game Quote
S. Sass Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 Amusing the way fans are acting. I could care less either way. He is going to his best option to get a ring or two. It cost him a little money but to him the odds of winning were worth it. It does again show how players do not have the same views as the fans when it comes to loyalty with a team, organization, or fan base. Ultimately its about the $$$$$$$$. 1 Quote
Super User Jar11591 Posted July 4, 2016 Author Super User Posted July 4, 2016 I was hoping to see KD go to the Eastern Conference, just to balance the power a little bit and make a serious threat to the Cavs in the east. A team like Boston, who just signed Al Horford, could have been a powerhouse with Durant. 2 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 4, 2016 Super User Posted July 4, 2016 He actually brings something to the warriors that they need, a scorer. they have shooters that people were blown back by two years ago but then teams settled down and figured some things out. And besides that, shooters aren't always going to be hot and bottom line is they are a soft team and when teams are physical agains them they have issues. KD is a scorer, not just a shooter so he will fit in just fine. And it is not about the money at all because he could have made more if he stayed in OKC....i personally find this a punk move. I mean they had the warriors down 3-1 and choked it away so they were obviously close. Westbrook is going to go off next season though and then be a FA..... Quote
S. Sass Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 18 minutes ago, flyfisher said: And it is not about the money at all because he could have made more if he stayed in OKC....i personally find this a punk move. It's always about the money don't kid yourself. Take 10 mil off that contract and he isn't going to sign a d**n thing. They offered all the $ they felt they could to get him. If it wasn't about the money heck he should go for free he is already a millionaire. They are a top team he is joining to grab a cheap quick shot at a ring. Heck he should pay them for a roster spot. The NBA is a business and the players play as a job it is always about the money. Take the money away and let's see how the NBA survives. Take the $ out of all Professional sports and let's see how the landscape changes. Let's tell KVD he doesn't get his top 2 sponsors equipment next year and see how quick he has 2 new sponsors. It will make your head spin. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 4, 2016 Super User Posted July 4, 2016 Sorry but when you can stay put and make more money and you go elsewhere for less money then it isn't just about the money. And to say to take the money out of sport doesn't even make sense. Free agency is capitalism at it's finest and that is why the league put measures in place so that the original team can offer more money and more years than other teams. NBA has max deals too in case you didn't know so other than OKC, if you had the space to could offer the same money. Guys made a lot more money than KD on other teams which he could have demanded if it was just about the money but but wasn't just about the money... 1 Quote
Super User NorcalBassin Posted July 4, 2016 Super User Posted July 4, 2016 KD was in a lose-lose on this one. If he took a 1 year deal now with OKC and then maxed it next year when the new cap arrives just as Westbrook leaves town, he'd be criticized by many of the same people criticizing him now for taking less money to chase a ring. Taking less money to go work for a better company/team in a more desirable location is something most of us would struggle to do, because most of us would actually be chasing the money that athletes are frequently chastised for doing. The people in OKC calling him a coward are also cracking me up... did they say that about the owners of the Supersonics when they abandoned Seattle and moved the team to OKC? 3 Quote
S. Sass Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 So that Championship ring he is doing this for isn't worth any money? OK so with your theory NBA rings don't equate to money. All the accolades status his entire career is judged considering rings but it's not worth anything. Wink got it. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted July 4, 2016 Super User Posted July 4, 2016 Bye Felicia!!!! They say "to be the best, you have to beat the best" I guess in this case it's "to be the best, you have to be with the best" It really sickens me to think someone who is supposedly this super competitor would make such a punk move. The most cowardly move made in sports history. I honestly didn't think he would stay in OKC, but this move is a disgrace. It's one thing to jump on a bandwagon as a fan, but when you hop on it as a player, you are the biggest tool in the world. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted July 5, 2016 Super User Posted July 5, 2016 1 hour ago, flyfisher said: He actually brings something to the warriors that they need, a scorer. they have shooters that people were blown back by two years ago but then teams settled down and figured some things out. And besides that, shooters aren't always going to be hot and bottom line is they are a soft team and when teams are physical agains them they have issues. KD is a scorer, not just a shooter so he will fit in just fine. And it is not about the money at all because he could have made more if he stayed in OKC....i personally find this a punk move. I mean they had the warriors down 3-1 and choked it away so they were obviously close. Westbrook is going to go off next season though and then be a FA..... Who settled down and figured them out?? They had the best regular season ever and went to 7 games in the finals..shots that went down all year just didnt in the finals, not because of d but just due to the percentages. 3 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 5, 2016 Super User Posted July 5, 2016 I have to agree that this is the weakest move i have seen in all of sports. He had GSW on the ropes and could have been in the finals and instead of being hungry and wanting to go after them again next year, he goes to their team instead. I'll make my call now that Westbrook and Durant are both in LA after next season.... 12 minutes ago, deaknh03 said: Who settled down and figured them out?? They had the best regular season ever and went to 7 games in the finals..shots that went down all year just didnt in the finals, not because of d but just due to the percentages. you started to see the physical play get to them in the WCF and in the finals. I agree that percentages came in to play but at the same time something changed. GSW had a tough time against teams with length and physical play. It will be interesting to see what transpires next season though 1 Quote
smallies24/7 Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 As a Seattle native I love it. Always been a big fan of KD, but couldnt cheer for the Thunder for obvious reasons. Now I get to cheer for him, and that jerk Clay Bennett gets his karma. Quote
Cgrinder Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 Sooooo if this kind of crap is going to be the norm, can we just skip the painfully long regular season and half the painfully long playoffs? Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 6, 2016 Super User Posted July 6, 2016 it will peak this year and next because of the money and then you are gonna see player contracts that were handed out really hurt teams and it will settle back down. While i don't like it per se, it is capitalism at it's finest...let these dudes play wherever they want for however much they can get. I know if someone told me they would offer me a teaching job down in the outer banks making 5 times my salary now i would be gone..... 1 Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted July 6, 2016 Super User Posted July 6, 2016 12 minutes ago, flyfisher said: it will peak this year and next because of the money and then you are gonna see player contracts that were handed out really hurt teams and it will settle back down. While i don't like it per se, it is capitalism at it's finest...let these dudes play wherever they want for however much they can get. I know if someone told me they would offer me a teaching job down in the outer banks making 5 times my salary now i would be gone..... Its been going on for about 25-30 yrs..teams pay max contracts for not max guys and bam..your stuck with an average or slightly above making tons of money. Its a problem in hoops with the cap, unlike baseball where it happens and only hurts small market teams. Quote
Last_Cast Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 GS is going to be unstoppable. Must be nice to have that kind of money. Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted July 6, 2016 Super User Posted July 6, 2016 Clearly a catch 22. I suspect OKC would have wanted to keep him at more than 2 years or a max deal at the current cap. This vs. a 2 year deal with an option in year 2 with a strong contender looks sweet to me. Not to mention Wesbrook almost guaranteed to leave next year. I can understand the feelings against this but I suspect there is more on the OKC side that we are not hearing. Its business and this opportunity was too good to pass up. Should be interesting to see things unfold next season now. Now ... If Duane Wade goes to the Cavs it will make this more like a soap opera. Lol. 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 6, 2016 Super User Posted July 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Last_Cast said: GS is going to be unstoppable. Must be nice to have that kind of money. that is what they said this year after they set the regular season win record. I don't think GS is built for playoffs really as you can't depend on shooters to always be hot. Adding Durant does give them a scorer though which will help when the shooters go cold. 1 Quote
Nice_Bass Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 On 7/4/2016 at 6:20 PM, jbsoonerfan said: Bye Felicia!!!! They say "to be the best, you have to beat the best" I guess in this case it's "to be the best, you have to be with the best" It really sickens me to think someone who is supposedly this super competitor would make such a punk move. The most cowardly move made in sports history. I honestly didn't think he would stay in OKC, but this move is a disgrace. It's one thing to jump on a bandwagon as a fan, but when you hop on it as a player, you are the biggest tool in the world. This is one of the dumbest hot takes I have read in a while. This is exactly the knee jerk fan reaction that keeps the power in the hands of the owners and not the players. This was a smart long term as well as short term move by KD to bring his talents elsewhere. 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 6, 2016 Super User Posted July 6, 2016 How is it a smart move? I mean his team could have made the finals but they choked down the stretch, partly because of his play. And as far as long term or short term, this is in essence a one year deal so there is no long term ramifications. I think it is a punk move too, how someone who gets beat by a team then goes and joins that same team is mind boggling to me. Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted July 6, 2016 Super User Posted July 6, 2016 On 7/4/2016 at 8:09 PM, deaknh03 said: Who settled down and figured them out?? They had the best regular season ever and went to 7 games in the finals..shots that went down all year just didnt in the finals, not because of d but just due to the percentages. I disagree. Shots didn't go down because the Cavs played excellent defense. The Cavs played very physical & just broke down the will to win for the GS. It's not how well you play during the season but how well you play in the playoffs. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted July 6, 2016 Super User Posted July 6, 2016 8 minutes ago, Dwight Hottle said: I disagree. Shots didn't go down because the Cavs played excellent defense. The Cavs played very physical & just broke down the will to win for the GS. It's not how well you play during the season but how well you play in the playoffs. They took the exact same shots as they took all year long...they just didn't drop like they did most of the year. When you rely on one thing, especially long range shooting, and it goes sour, your screwed. Lebron played good D, as he always does, but D wasn't the reason GS lost. I'm not downplaying Clevelands win, as it was gutsy, but GS just went cold from downtown.Period. 1 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted July 6, 2016 Super User Posted July 6, 2016 That's what happens when someone gets in your head. Quote
Nice_Bass Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 4 hours ago, flyfisher said: How is it a smart move? I mean his team could have made the finals but they choked down the stretch, partly because of his play. And as far as long term or short term, this is in essence a one year deal so there is no long term ramifications. I think it is a punk move too, how someone who gets beat by a team then goes and joins that same team is mind boggling to me. Smart move in that he is playing with players he wants to play with and who have been trying to convince him to come over already (according to green). Smart move in that he is going to be playing with a team that compliments him as well (the thunder did to an extent as well) in that he is a scoring monster but does not need the ball in his hands that often. Contracts coming up also puts him in a good time frame to do it now as he could get less in the future. finally, he stated himself that he wants to go to a new city and have a chance to grow and succeed. Something we all do in our own jobs as well. Maybe it is because I am in sales...but I certainly would be changing the company I work for if I felt I would have better success elsewhere. Again, I think it is his right to do so...Pouty fans and whiney owners don't get to make the decisions all the time...afterall this guy was drafted by them that does not mean he has to retire with them. Only thing I am mad about is the Bulls did not have a shot at him...but would have also been a poor move on his part. Quote
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