Super User scaleface Posted July 4, 2016 Super User Posted July 4, 2016 This worked better than expectations . I fished two days with it and caught bunches of carp and the rig worked flawlessly . Patterned after the hair rig popular in Europe , I came up with this on the spot . I used Wheaties/commercial catfish food mixture dough-ball for bait . The small treble hook is barbless and its soul purpose to hold the dough-ball on, although it hooks and helps keep the fish on too . Next is a size 8 Octopus hook [slid on not tied] with a piece of tubing stripped from electrical wire ,slid on the shank . Slide the tubing on the line before sliding on the hook .You want the tubing to fit tight so experiment with different gauge wire .This keeps the bait in the correct position when the carp blows the bait out , A bobber stop keeps it in place . Tied onto a regular slip weight rig [ Carolina rig] . I use a heavy weight and tight line . When the carp inhales the bait it feels the resistance and blows it back out . The octopus hook catches the lip the carp spooks and bolts hooking itself . Also caught four channel cats and a buffalo . A picture is worth a thousand words . 3 Quote
MassBass Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 thats interesting. I would probably use an oatmeal ball with that rig. And put a bead between the swivel and egg sinker. I would use it. 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted July 4, 2016 Author Super User Posted July 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, MassBass said: thats interesting. I would probably use an oatmeal ball with that rig. And put a bead between the swivel and egg sinker. I would use it. I didnt want to use a treble hook , but it was the only thing I came up with to hold the dough ball on . It worked well and goig barbless caused minimal damage . Quote
MassBass Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 Nothing wrong with using a small treble i reckon. I have hauled them in on trebles with nightcrawlers, and one time I caught one on a treble with corn, but with the three points tipped with a salmon egg. The fish were fine with the treble in their lip. I used to gill them- now that can really damage the fish. Quote
The_fisherman Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 Interesting rig. How do you keep the turtles away? Every time I do carp fishing during the warm time of the year they drive me nuts. Quote
Evan K Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 Neat looking rig! I haven't fished for carp yet but want to some day. That seems like a clever idea for keeping them hooked. Quote
Super User scaleface Posted July 5, 2016 Author Super User Posted July 5, 2016 The barbless treble hook is just a bait holder . The single hook gets inhaled along with the bait .. When the carp blows the bait out its the single hook that catches , causing the fish to bolt . Its works the same way as the Hair Rig the Europeans use for carp . This is an easier , simpler version . 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted July 5, 2016 Author Super User Posted July 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, Neil McCauley said: My new carp fishing rig LOL If I was going to eat them , I would use one of those . I did it as a teenager and then I had a severely wounded fish that I had no intention on eating . I'm a little more sympathetic now days . Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted July 5, 2016 Super User Posted July 5, 2016 My new rig for kayak carp: MM rod and LC LVRD7 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted July 5, 2016 Author Super User Posted July 5, 2016 48 minutes ago, Choporoz said: My new rig for kayak carp: MM rod and LC LVRD7 Trying to get them to hit it with their tail is the tricky part . Takes a lot of skill . 1 Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted July 5, 2016 Super User Posted July 5, 2016 Pretty tough tails, too. Guy towed me for nearly 15 minutes Quote
MassBass Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 This thread made me think of something. What if you tied a knotless knot hair rig onto a small treble and rigged it just like a hair rig. There would be three times more points to ***** the fish and make it spook/bolt. I put something together that might work. Ill try it sometime. The picture isn't that great but you should get the concept. 1 Quote
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