Super User tcbass Posted June 20, 2016 Super User Posted June 20, 2016 On 6/15/2016 at 11:59 PM, A-Jay said: First ~ Talons over Power Poles was easy for me - I wanted the Vertical Deployment and the great Depth (12ft) and preferred electric over hydraulic power. As for the pro's & con's vs a "regular" bass boat - that's a much more complicated deal and there's a heavy dose of personal preference wrapped all around it. My response here is to list some of what the Lund Pro-V bass does has & does that I wanted & now enjoy. I am not implying that other brands & models do not possess these things. A High free board, stable, dry riding hull, capable & sea worthy in challenging / rough conditions. Plenty of well thought out storage. A Large & Long Center rod locker. Safety Ladder incorporated in hull (at the Stern) accessible from in the water. A horse power rating suitable for the boats design & weight. A Quality dealership with a solid reputation near my home where I can get parts & service when needed that sold a brand of boat I trust and am willing to bet my life on because that's what I'm doing every time I go out on the water. The final cost of the boat, motor & trailer package (including options & upgrades) needed to fit my budget. A-Jay Why is vertical deployment good? And why is electric better than hydraulic? How much less is a Pro-V Bass boat compared to a glass boat? Quote
Super User slonezp Posted June 20, 2016 Super User Posted June 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, tcbass said: Why is vertical deployment good? And why is electric better than hydraulic? How much less is a Pro-V Bass boat compared to a glass boat? You won't be saving any money buying a Lund. Pricing is similar to most 18 to 19ft bass boats 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 20, 2016 Author Super User Posted June 20, 2016 19 minutes ago, tcbass said: Why is vertical deployment good? And why is electric better than hydraulic? How much less is a Pro-V Bass boat compared to a glass boat? It's Fast, Vertical Deployment deploys vertically in three stages. While the competitor's extended “crab leg” ties up your lines and costs you fish, the Vertical deployment allows for unobstructed fishing directly off the stern. Talon’s patented sequential deployment is quicker, quieter and stays out of your way AND provides 2X Anchoring Force. Talon is built to lock you onto your spot with unparalleled strength and security. Talons Electro-Mechanical Design means no hydraulics. The lightweight, space-saving Talon is as easy to install as a trolling motor. You can do it yourself, and save the money on a costly installation. Talon's innovative design - featuring minimal moving parts, no hinge points and a motor that stays above the waterline - ensures that you're always in stealth mode. Stays silent below the water - thanks to a motor that is always a few feet above the waterline. The competition's noisy hydraulic pump sits in the bilge, right where the fish can hear it coming. As for price comparison, I can not offer any info there. I never wanted a glass boat and never researched their cost. A-Jay 1 Quote
KenG85 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 I found this post while searching up and down for information on this boat. I am so close to pulling the trigger on one. I live in SD where it seems we have 25 mph wind every week and 10-15 mph seems to be a normal day. This seems like the boat that will let me get where I want to go even in those conditions. I'm also looking for a boat that could double for recreation and the 200 hp Verado should be able to do that. I'm wondering how things have went for the past year? Are you still loving it? Have you found any short-comings? I see you went with dual Talon's. Does that affect hull warranty for Lund? I've heard it voids Ranger warranties. How does the boat draft in shallow water? Have you felt limited in how shallow you can take it? 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 30, 2017 Author Super User Posted June 30, 2017 3 hours ago, KenG85 said: I found this post while searching up and down for information on this boat. I am so close to pulling the trigger on one. I live in SD where it seems we have 25 mph wind every week and 10-15 mph seems to be a normal day. This seems like the boat that will let me get where I want to go even in those conditions. I'm also looking for a boat that could double for recreation and the 200 hp Verado should be able to do that. I'm wondering how things have went for the past year? Are you still loving it? Have you found any short-comings? I see you went with dual Talon's. Does that affect hull warranty for Lund? I've heard it voids Ranger warranties. How does the boat draft in shallow water? Have you felt limited in how shallow you can take it? I just saw this post - I'm headed to the lake but will respond here when I get back But for a quick response - I am LOVING IT ~ ! A-Jay 2 Quote
boostr Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 On 6/19/2016 at 10:20 PM, A-Jay said: It's Fast, Vertical Deployment deploys vertically in three stages. While the competitor's extended “crab leg” ties up your lines and costs you fish, the Vertical deployment allows for unobstructed fishing directly off the stern. Talon’s patented sequential deployment is quicker, quieter and stays out of your way AND provides 2X Anchoring Force. Talon is built to lock you onto your spot with unparalleled strength and security. Talons Electro-Mechanical Design means no hydraulics. The lightweight, space-saving Talon is as easy to install as a trolling motor. You can do it yourself, and save the money on a costly installation. Talon's innovative design - featuring minimal moving parts, no hinge points and a motor that stays above the waterline - ensures that you're always in stealth mode. Stays silent below the water - thanks to a motor that is always a few feet above the waterline. The competition's noisy hydraulic pump sits in the bilge, right where the fish can hear it coming. As for price comparison, I can not offer any info there. I never wanted a glass boat and never researched their cost. A-Jay Did you just cut and paste... Great boat by the way. You know, I never really thought about the profile of the Talon or Power Pole in this way. I know they were powered and worked differently, but not about one getting in the way of landing a fish. I have a Talon, not because I wanted a Talon but because I wanted a pole anchor, and my boat happened to come with a Talon. Now I'm so much happier that it did. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 30, 2017 Author Super User Posted June 30, 2017 16 hours ago, KenG85 said: I found this post while searching up and down for information on this boat. I am so close to pulling the trigger on one. I live in SD where it seems we have 25 mph wind every week and 10-15 mph seems to be a normal day. This seems like the boat that will let me get where I want to go even in those conditions. I'm also looking for a boat that could double for recreation and the 200 hp Verado should be able to do that. I'm wondering how things have went for the past year? Are you still loving it? Have you found any short-comings? I see you went with dual Talon's. Does that affect hull warranty for Lund? I've heard it voids Ranger warranties. How does the boat draft in shallow water? Have you felt limited in how shallow you can take it? @KenG85 OK ~ So I Have NOT recognized any short comings - However I am not asking the Pro-V to do anything it's not designed to do. Having realistic expectations helps. Hull Mounted Talons Do Not (to my knowledge) adversely affect Lund Hull warranty. Mine were installed by an authorized Lund Dealer. Might make a difference - don't know. Draft - with O/B tilted up I can get in some pretty skinny water - I'd guess maybe 26-28 inches - I'd Never need to go any shallower than that. The Boat handles the Slop very well Here's a video of a run up the lake from last month. It's a little deceiving with the camera angle but the boat is fairly high off the water compared to a standard "Bass Boat" Hull. Really contributes to a dry ride - The 200hp Optimax has the IPS2 Hull Jumping up on plane and has no problem zipping along at 55mph + A-Jay 2 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted June 30, 2017 Super User Posted June 30, 2017 55 minutes ago, A-Jay said: Draft - with O/B tilted up I can get in some pretty skinny water - I'd guess maybe 26-28 inches - I'd Never need to go any shallower than that. A-Jay I've measured the waterline on my Lund. It drafts 14". 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 30, 2017 Author Super User Posted June 30, 2017 Just now, slonezp said: I've measured the waterline on my Lund. It drafts 14". Sounds about right ~ If I need to get that shallow - I should be in the Old Town. A-Jay Quote
Attila Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 Really love the boat @A-Jay, thanks for the tour. Are your Humminbird units networked? Also noticed that you had a couple of rods on the back deck; were they tied down and if so are the ties similar to what are on the bow? I'm looking at the 1625 Fury XL SS version and there's a lot of things I'd like to put into my design that match what you've had done to yours. Thanks again for your great video review. 1 Quote
KenG85 Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 2 hours ago, A-Jay said: Sounds about right ~ If I need to get that shallow - I should be in the Old Town. A-Jay That's what I was thinking, too. Come spring time I may still be in my ocean kayak big game 2. How would you guess this boat would run with the 150 four stroke on it? Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 1, 2017 Author Super User Posted July 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Attila said: Really love the boat @A-Jay, thanks for the tour. Are your Humminbird units networked? Also noticed that you had a couple of rods on the back deck; were they tied down and if so are the ties similar to what are on the bow? I'm looking at the 1625 Fury XL SS version and there's a lot of things I'd like to put into my design that match what you've had done to yours. Thanks again for your great video review. Thanks Yes Sir ~ the 2 flush mounted Helix 10's are networked. And that's something I take for granted now but definitely use it every trip. And Yes, there are 2 pairs of bungee - like straps on the forward casting deck and a single job on each side of the aft casting deck; right behind the seat backs. Best of luck with your impending purchase. A-Jay 3 minutes ago, KenG85 said: That's what I was thinking, too. Come spring time I may still be in my ocean kayak big game 2. How would you guess this boat would run with the 150 four stroke on it? I can not say how this hull will perform with a 150 HP - may depend on how you configure it and / or how much you load into it. I will say that I've never felt that any Out Board powered vessel I've ever driven that was powered with less that what was on the capacity plate was capable of performing as it was designed. YMMV A-Jay Quote
Super User NHBull Posted July 1, 2017 Super User Posted July 1, 2017 This is the video that got me looking at Lunds! 1 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted July 1, 2017 Super User Posted July 1, 2017 31 minutes ago, KenG85 said: That's what I was thinking, too. Come spring time I may still be in my ocean kayak big game 2. How would you guess this boat would run with the 150 four stroke on it? The 150 four is a good motor but it's no VRod. My thought is it will still get up on plane well, but the top end will get killed. If you don't need the top end and plan on keeping the boat, I say go for it, BUT you might want to opt for the Honda 150 instead of the Merc, The Honda is bulletproof. Either way, if you're only keeping it a few years, the 150 is going to hurt you at resale Quote
Super User Further North Posted July 1, 2017 Super User Posted July 1, 2017 4 hours ago, A-Jay said: Draft - with O/B tilted up I can get in some pretty skinny water - I'd guess maybe 26-28 inches - I'd Never need to go any shallower than that. I'd be surprised if you can't get into water half that deep. I can with my CMV, and your hull has 10+ years of improvements built into it. Quote
KenG85 Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 1 hour ago, slonezp said: The 150 four is a good motor but it's no VRod. My thought is it will still get up on plane well, but the top end will get killed. If you don't need the top end and plan on keeping the boat, I say go for it, BUT you might want to opt for the Honda 150 instead of the Merc, The Honda is bulletproof. Either way, if you're only keeping it a few years, the 150 is going to hurt you at resale Dealer said the 150 will get 45 to 50 mph. They also said 200 will get 55 to 60 mph. They cited Lund as the source for these numbers. I'm thinking I could live with 45 mph. However, I'm worried about loss of performance with pleasure boating, tubing and such. Also I would like to be able to ride with confidence should the weather turn rough. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 1, 2017 Author Super User Posted July 1, 2017 7 hours ago, KenG85 said: Dealer said the 150 will get 45 to 50 mph. They also said 200 will get 55 to 60 mph. They cited Lund as the source for these numbers. I'm thinking I could live with 45 mph. However, I'm worried about loss of performance with pleasure boating, tubing and such. Also I would like to be able to ride with confidence should the weather turn rough. Can't speak for the 150 but the numbers for to 200hp are, at least in my case, accurate. A-Jay Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 1, 2017 Author Super User Posted July 1, 2017 Here's yesterday's ride to the ramp ~ A-Jay 2 Quote
XpressJeff Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 That's one beautiful set up young man. It's obvious the influence your life's work had on your craft selection. Looks comfortable and safe! You fish quite a bit of big water and need that. You've earned it, enjoy the ride! 1 Quote
Attila Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 That's one smooth ride right there. I just thought of a couple more questions if I may? Do you use a Hot Foot? and also does the higher hull make it harder to trailer the boat when you're on your own? Cheers. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 1, 2017 Author Super User Posted July 1, 2017 2 hours ago, XpressJeff said: That's one beautiful set up young man. It's obvious the influence your life's work had on your craft selection. Looks comfortable and safe! You fish quite a bit of big water and need that. You've earned it, enjoy the ride! Thank you Sir - I certainly appreciate the kind words. 2 hours ago, Attila said: That's one smooth ride right there. I just thought of a couple more questions if I may? Do you use a Hot Foot? and also does the higher hull make it harder to trailer the boat when you're on your own? Cheers. I do not use a hot foot - Don't have anything against them, just grew up with, worked & trained with the traditional "throttle lever". So that's what I'm used to. I can see how for some humans, the familiarity of the 'gas pedal' on a boat could be OK. I'm just not one of them & for me it's sort of blasphemous . . . The trailering on this boat as well as putting it on & off the trailer, is always a solo act in my case. The 'higher hull' doesn't come into play at all here, at least for me. I take my time and try to stay safe so that the trailering, launching & recovery routinely go smooth as silk. Here's a video from early spring of me putting the boat in at the ramp and then getting underway to my first spot. It's a little long but it may help. A-Jay 2 Quote
Attila Posted July 2, 2017 Posted July 2, 2017 Thanks for sharing the video again @A-Jay. It really helped me understand the ins and outs of launching a boat solo, something that I know I'll be doing a lot of in the coming years. I really like the boat launches your state has put in to facilitate boat launching, kind of wish ours were as good. We have some decent ones scattered around but nothing like that one. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 2, 2017 Author Super User Posted July 2, 2017 On 7/2/2017 at 11:45 AM, Attila said: Thanks for sharing the video again @A-Jay. It really helped me understand the ins and outs of launching a boat solo, something that I know I'll be doing a lot of in the coming years. I really like the boat launches your state has put in to facilitate boat launching, kind of wish ours were as good. We have some decent ones scattered around but nothing like that one. You're Welcome - Glad to help. Michigan state park boat launch sites are for the most part decent. With the bass C & R season open all year now (changed last season) and Walleye opening in late April - many of the docks don't go in well after ice out - So A Soon As The Ice is Out, I'll still launch without the docks - just have to use a good pair of hip boots. A-Jay 1 Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.