Dumb You Tube Fishing Stuff

[Bruce424]

Skarfishing is a good one too. Edits his fishing vids to music. 

[Stephen B]

36 minutes ago, Bruce424 said:

Skarfishing is a good one too. Edits his fishing vids to music. 

Never heard of him but will definitely take a look at some of his videos.

[LCG]

The world is imperfect, that's life. Of course some or most YouTubers will have sponsors, which by its nature calls into question the legitimacy of their stated opinions. That's the nature of things. Professional anglers look like NASCAR drivers from their sponsors and push their product. So do big box stores and their employees. Most adults should know this from life experience by now. 

 

None the less, I am 39 years old and only been fishing about 5 years now. I have learned a ton from YouTube and this forum. Things that would have taken much longer to learn. I wasn't into fishing when some of the big name guys had shows on tv and now days I only stream (Netflix, amazon, YouTube, etc,).

 

I have grown to dislike some personalities on YouTube but I won't speak ill of them, just not my type that's all. Some YouTube personalities are more my style and I have learned a great deal from them. More techniques and retrieval stuff, some gear stuff as well. I don't take them for their opinion on equipment brands for obvious reasons. 

 

I can drive a car, I have seen race cars on TV, doesn't mean I can drive a race car though. Applied knowledge comes with experience only. 

[buzzbaiter83]

I love watching bassfishing YouTube videos. If I watch any pros I watch Jacob Wheeler, Hunter Shryock, Brandon Palaniuk, & occasionally Scott Martin. I also like a lot of the normal guys. *** has great content & I enjoy some of LTB videos. 

 

That being said, YouTube content is made for people with different preferences. If I learn something new & out of the box then it’s well worth it. If not, I’ve gotten some entertainment anyways. I’ve never seen an unboxing video but that’s not my cup of tea. If it’s helping new anglers get out on the water then I’m all for it. There’s a lot worse kids could be doing than making YouTube fishing videos. 

[boostr]

I actually don't watch many. Watched Gene on his earlier stuff when I was learning a few years ago, and was taught a great deal by him. Now I just watch when I want to know how to fish a certain type of bait or a review of a product from a link I clicked on thru the Googler. I watch the TV shows more than anything, not for what they are promoting, but more for their technique or style of fishing. I think Hackney, KVD, Swindle and some of the other pros have good instructionals thru outlets like ***, and the such. 

[waldo567]

Guess who else watches youtube all the time. Kids. They don't want to watch fishing shows on TV but they will watch them all day on youtube. I am all for getting young people into the sport and youtube is doing that. Not so much with the traditional old school TV shows.  Don't like it then don't watch but for I have learned far more from youtube any of these TV shows and they put out far more content far more frequently.

Not to mention youtube tends to show more guys who actually fish. Most of these TV shows are staged on private lakes with fish that were caught before filming. I am sure some of these youtube guys do the same. You can also get reviews and opinions on a wide variety of lures. The TV shows only takl about their sponsored companies. Again youtubers have sponsors too but they also talk a lot about other lures. The model to make money is completely different than TV. 

[Bluebasser86]

8 hours ago, waldo567 said:

 Most of these TV shows are staged on private lakes with fish that were caught before filming. 

Huh?? I know Bill Dance does most of his shows on his private lake, but he's still catching the fish, teaching and answering questions as he does it. I've never seen a show where they "pre-caught" fish. I've heard people say that they have divers putting fish on the line for them, that would be a heck of a feat to put a struggling bass on a moving bait without doing anything noticeable above water (huge, unusual line/rod movements, exhaled bubbles, large swirls or shadows in the water). Add onto that the fact that with the exception of the clearest bodies of water, visibility is minimal at best, the whole "divers putting fish on the line" tinfoil hat theory sounds like people's jealously shining through.

 

I guess if some of the younger guys get involved because of the newer age Youtubers, that's a good thing, but calling what most of them put out informational would be a stretch. I don't know who is lumped into the group of the Googan's, it's not my thing, I know it, so I don't watch it, but if they can make a living doing what they're doing, good for them. 

[Jar11591]

I could be wrong, but I don’t believe many of the popular YouTube channels being referred to, such as the Googans, claim to be educational or informational, just entertaining. Some of the channels may have started out that way, or at least under that guise, but I don’t believe they claim to be educational anymore. 

 

Some of the channels I really enjoy watching, and some I don’t care for as much, but generally I find their content to be very entertaining. The popular YouTube fishermen, such as the Googans, show a genuine enthusiasm for fishing, the fish they catch, and the locales they fish in, which I find appealing for a fishing show. Not to mention they’re living the life I can only dream of, traveling the world over, catching all kinds of species and fishing in some of the most incredible places in the world all while being paid well for it. 

 

Some channels are definitely better than others. 

[J Francho]

On 7/31/2018 at 1:44 PM, waldo567 said:

Most of these TV shows are staged on private lakes with fish that were caught before filming.

Lol, I can't believe that in this day and age people still think this.  There's a TON of editing, but staging fish catches is time consuming and costly.  The rule of thumb: three catches is a show.  Three.  Let that sink in.

[soflabasser]

Like the expression says "the sizzle sells the steak" and that is a major problem with many YouTube channels these days. Most people in general are more interested in YouTube videos that are overly dramatic with lots of hype and fluff. Not many people are interested in channels that are strait to the point,show no hype, even if these channels are educational and show plenty of big fish.

[StrikePrince]

I find a lot of the chest cam footage to be helpful, whether they're catching or not.  You don't have to listen to what they're saying, you can see with your own eyes whether their cast catches fish.

 

Also, chest cams on a skilled angler like Scott Martin are good for the same reason.  Even if he's not talking about what he's doing, you can see where he's casting/how he's retrieving.

[haggard]

On 6/8/2016 at 6:09 PM, Kevinator1 said:

Sorry if I offend anyone but some of the You Tube fishing stuff is just so dumb.......un-boxings.....wth? You mean I can't look at the same stuff on fishing tackle sites or my 5,000 catalogs I get in the mail every year? I have to watch some dufus open a box and describe what he bought?

I hear what you're saying, but I think the value added by youtube unboxings and tabletop demos is that (for the most part) the marketing is filtered out. Nothing against marketing, just saying you get to see something perhaps a little more real, raw, less processed, not shot in a studio, sort of like what you're saying with your well used boat compared to the scratch-free shiny ones. The hands-on video also offers perspectives you don't necessarily see from the highly processed, one dimensional still shots you see in catalogs and websites. I don't think the actual unboxing footage adds much value, other than anticipation.

[boostr]

On 8/1/2018 at 7:55 AM, J Francho said:

Lol, I can't believe that in this day and age people still think this.  There's a TON of editing, but staging fish catches is time consuming and costly.  I just filmed a small segment for Anglr Tour, and just getting the cameras and chase boat set up took an hour.  Much time is spent getting B-roll footage as well.  Never mind that we only had 5-6 hookups in an 8 hour day.  At least they got one cast to catch sequence that was pretty dramatic.  The rule of thumb: three catches is a show.  Three.  Let that sink in.

...well that counts me out, I guess no show for me....

[MrFrost]

*****(Edited to be more specific, lol)*****

 

It's hard to call the Googan Squad or similiar fishermen on YouTube "dumb" when they have built a channel with such a strong following behind it.  I know I have previously stated in this thread why I like some of the channels I like, many of the channels some people are slamming, but I realized another reason I like some of these channels so much.  

 

If you were to watch just the old school cats or shows on television, much like I first did, it is intimidating.  These guys are always landing the fish over and over and over, and they're using techniques that they are well beyond comfortable with, trying to win whatever tournament they are fishing.

 

That made me opt out of learning.

 

Then I found the Googans and the like.  They no longer claim to be educational, but they honestly are.  I know some of their challenges are silly and considered dumb to a lot of people who have fished for a long time, but for someone like me, who before May, had never caught a single fish in my 35 years of existence, they showed the real simplicity of catching fish when you target the right water at the right time.  

 

They also show you that they don't always catch fish.  And that's real.  Take APbassin or Flair, who some, myself included, would label as the silliest/most non-conventional of the YouTube fishermen, they catch fish, but they don't ever claim to be pro's or better than anyone, and actually lose a lot of the challenges they do on their own channels.  But they do a very good job explaining what they're doing and why.

 

That's the key.  Remove 12 minutes of entertaining silly stuff, and you usually can find a good 30 seconds or minute of them actually explaining something useful while showing how it can be simple if done right.  

 

They own boats, either sponsor donated or self bought, but will still bank fish.  As a 100% bank fisher, I can appreciate that a lot.  

[Choporoz]

2 minutes ago, MrFrost said:

It's hard to call someone or something on YouTube "dumb" when there is such a strong following behind it. 

Sorry, but I don't find it difficult at all

[J Francho]

11 minutes ago, MrFrost said:

It's hard to call someone or something on YouTube "dumb"

 

[MrFrost]

13 minutes ago, J Francho said:

 

I should edit my post, to be more specific, lmao.

[boostr]

My 7 year old loves watching YouTube fishing shows like 1Rod1Reel, BlacktipH, Catch Em All and the like. I like watching Darciszzle for her fishing insight myself...

[diversity210]

I personally like watching many of the youtube fishing videos.  I am a person who feels like you can always learn something new and being able to watch all the different techniques and applications other people use help me to hone my own technique and discover things I would have never thought to do before. 

 

The biggest think is youtube is full of people trying to go viral have a million subscribers and make the money and get the sponsorship that usually follows having a popular vlog.  There is a lot of potential for money and sponsorships simply by giving away all this free and useful information these days.  That is why there is so much free information out there to get.  So yeah the videos might be dumb to the traditional cut & dry angler, but in the last decade or two.  This is driven an entire market around free information and for me thats a good thing. 

[J Francho]

"Free" and "unbiased" do not always go hand in hand.

[FishDewd]

I actually like seeing reviews on reels and whatnot, but maybe I differ from most.

[burrows]

On 8/2/2018 at 6:50 AM, J Francho said:

 

Wow this is just mind blowing awesomeness ?

[Bermise]

Grown men watching you tube videos of kids over and over and then complaining about it is a sad reality.

[clh121787]

It bothers me when they get a fish close to the boat and start clicking the thumbbar into free spool. Starting to noticed this more. Seems precarious. Bad habit imo.

[Deleted account]

On 8/4/2018 at 11:38 PM, clh121787 said:

It bothers me when they get a fish close to the boat and start clicking the thumbbar into free spool. Starting to noticed this more. Seems precarious. Bad habit imo.

It bothers you that folks click the thumb bar? or that they make videos about it?