Matt Duprau Posted June 2, 2016 Posted June 2, 2016 Tough choice. Depends what factors you want to look at. I personally use the pit boss on swim jigs, chatterbaits and a light weight texas rig. Incredible movement and action from the bait. On the other end, I use the sweet beaver on a lot of my punchin' jigs and heavy texas rigging. It's a nice beefy bait and cut down it works great on the back of a flippin pitchin jig. Easily punches through mats while still retaining some action in the tail. Price is a big factor - the average joe may look at the pit boss (4$) - and the sweet beaver (9$) as a drawing point as well. Overall, if I had to choose one I'd choose the Pit Boss. Mostly personal preference and I find I can be more versatile with the bait. To each his own! Matt Duprau 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted June 2, 2016 Global Moderator Posted June 2, 2016 Pit Boss, it's a more versatile bait IMO. 3 Quote
Hurricane Posted June 2, 2016 Author Posted June 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said: Pit Boss, it's a more versatile bait IMO. I really only would use three colors.. green pumpkin, black/blue , and watermelon.. Living up north, thats all i really need.. Hopefully the smallies love them.. I like thr price also... Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted June 2, 2016 Global Moderator Posted June 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, LastCastChris said: I really only would use three colors.. green pumpkin, black/blue , and watermelon.. Living up north, thats all i really need.. Hopefully the smallies love them.. I like thr price also... Sapphire Blue and Lime Purple Passion are the 2 I use the most. Big Texan, Junebug, and black and blue get a lot of use too. 1 Quote
Hurricane Posted June 2, 2016 Author Posted June 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said: Sapphire Blue and Lime Purple Passion are the 2 I use the most. Big Texan, Junebug, and black and blue get a lot of use too. What size hook do you use to texas rig the 3 and the 4 inch? 1 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted June 2, 2016 Super User Posted June 2, 2016 They are both great baits. I'd probably take the Beaver though. 3 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted June 2, 2016 Global Moderator Posted June 2, 2016 1 minute ago, LastCastChris said: What size hook do you use to texas rig the 3 and the 4 inch? I use a 2/0 EWG short shank Owner Rigging hook for the 3" and a 4/0 EWG or 4/0 straight shank for the 4" depending on how I'm fishing it. 1 Quote
Hurricane Posted June 2, 2016 Author Posted June 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said: I use a 2/0 EWG short shank Owner Rigging hook for the 3" and a 4/0 EWG or 4/0 straight shank for the 4" depending on how I'm fishing it. Thanks for the help! Quote
lakeannaangler Posted June 2, 2016 Posted June 2, 2016 29 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said: Pit Boss, it's a more versatile bait IMO. This^^ 1 Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted June 2, 2016 Super User Posted June 2, 2016 55 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said: Pit Boss, it's a more versatile bait IMO. This I switched from RI beavers to Pit Boss's a few years ago and won't be going back. The Pit Boss will do everything a RI Beaver will, plus more. There are several reasons why I made the switch #1 Cost..............Pit Boss's are $2.99 a bag vs. $4+ for RI.............when you go through 100's of this style of bait a year it adds up. #2 I have stated this before.........I am no high and mighty morality preaching kind of guy, but when I have kids in the boat, and they like to play with my tackle, I really don't need or want to have to hear "Daddy what's a tramp stamp? What's a Dirty Sanchez?" There's enough of that stuff floating around in the real world, I don't need a family fishing trip to turn into risque innuendo laden thing. Call me old fashioned, but that's the way I am. #3 They just work. I have noticed ZERO drop off in numbers or quality of fish since the change. #4 If I run out or low (not likely LOL) but if I do...........the walmart 5 mins. down the road has them. 11 Quote
S. Sass Posted June 2, 2016 Posted June 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: Pit Boss, it's a more versatile bait IMO. ^^^ agreed As others are saying there are many reasons I use Pit Boss. Just a few are At least 28 colors to chose from Cost ($1.83 - $2.62 right now at http://www.berkley-fishing.com/ ) Availability from Walmart to just about any tackle supplier As ww2farmer just said, "They just work" Easily shortened to make great trailers out of Can be T-rigged and fished as is Awesome flip n pitch bait The plastic itself is quite durable yet soft. The appendages aren't so long they wrap up on stuff easily but give good action One thing I have gotten away from the EWG style hooks. I have a much better hook up ratio with the 4/0 offset worm hooks like these. Or use a flippin style hook. I rig it pretty much like the old days T-style before they ever had a EWG hook. It just leaves a much wider area for that hook point to be unobstructed. There is plenty of plastic to hold the tip of that hook out of things that will snag ya but yet soft enough the hook easily comes through on a strike. 3 Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted June 2, 2016 Super User Posted June 2, 2016 I use both. The Beaver is more of a dead action bait. It excels for me on unaggressive fish or to add bulk to a jig trailer without adding much action. The Pit boss is the exact opposite in that it is full of action and excels when fish are more aggressive. Another relatively small point is that the Beavers weigh more and are more aerodynamic leading to longer casts while the Pit boss weighs a bit less and has greater wind resistance resulting in slightly less casting distance. I like both and use them when I feel they would excel... Quote
Hurricane Posted June 2, 2016 Author Posted June 2, 2016 6 hours ago, S. Sass said: ^^^ agreed As others are saying there are many reasons I use Pit Boss. Just a few are At least 28 colors to chose from Cost ($1.83 - $2.62 right now at http://www.berkley-fishing.com/ ) Availability from Walmart to just about any tackle supplier As ww2farmer just said, "They just work" Easily shortened to make great trailers out of Can be T-rigged and fished as is Awesome flip n pitch bait The plastic itself is quite durable yet soft. The appendages aren't so long they wrap up on stuff easily but give good action One thing I have gotten away from the EWG style hooks. I have a much better hook up ratio with the 4/0 offset worm hooks like these. Or use a flippin style hook. I rig it pretty much like the old days T-style before they ever had a EWG hook. It just leaves a much wider area for that hook point to be unobstructed. There is plenty of plastic to hold the tip of that hook out of things that will snag ya but yet soft enough the hook easily comes through on a strike. Solid information. Thanks! 7 hours ago, ww2farmer said: This I switched from RI beavers to Pit Boss's a few years ago and won't be going back. The Pit Boss will do everything a RI Beaver will, plus more. There are several reasons why I made the switch #1 Cost..............Pit Boss's are $2.99 a bag vs. $4+ for RI.............when you go through 100's of this style of bait a year it adds up. #2 I have stated this before.........I am no high and mighty morality preaching kind of guy, but when I have kids in the boat, and they like to play with my tackle, I really don't need or want to have to hear "Daddy what's a tramp stamp? What's a Dirty Sanchez?" There's enough of that stuff floating around in the real world, I don't need a family fishing trip to turn into risque innuendo laden thing. Call me old fashioned, but that's the way I am. #3 They just work. I have noticed ZERO drop off in numbers or quality of fish since the change. #4 If I run out or low (not likely LOL) but if I do...........the walmart 5 mins. down the road has them. Thanks Farmer! Living in wny, what colors work best for you? Quote
druben Posted June 2, 2016 Posted June 2, 2016 I know this was not in the question, but try the missle baits d-bomb and get the best of both. 1 Quote
S. Sass Posted June 2, 2016 Posted June 2, 2016 1 hour ago, druben said: I know this was not in the question, but try the missle baits d-bomb and get the best of both. Pit Boss 28 vs D Bomb 21 Colors Pit Boss 8 pack vs D Bomb 6 pack Pit Boss avg price $3 pack vs D Bomb $4 pack Winner Pit Boss - 7 more colors, 2 more per pack, and generally $1 a pack cheaper. And D Bomb not nearly as available. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted June 2, 2016 Global Moderator Posted June 2, 2016 When I'm punching I use the Beaver exclusively. It's compact enough and rigged with a skirt, it has the right amount of action for me. For me, there are better choices than either one of those for t-rigging. Mike Quote
Cgrinder Posted June 2, 2016 Posted June 2, 2016 Yeah I'm with the farmer on this one. Blue is the lazy man's comedy. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted June 3, 2016 Super User Posted June 3, 2016 15 hours ago, LastCastChris said: Thanks Farmer! Living in wny, what colors work best for you? Sit down, this is going to be ground breaking........................green pumpkin and black/blue. 3 Quote
Mr Swim Jig Posted June 3, 2016 Posted June 3, 2016 This would be a tough choice, I use both and they are both great baits! Quote
Hurricane Posted June 3, 2016 Author Posted June 3, 2016 20 minutes ago, ww2farmer said: Sit down, this is going to be ground breaking........................green pumpkin and black/blue. Lmao... i just wrote those as my 2 favorite colors in the plastics thread... Then i checked this thread.. Quote
HeavyTwenty Posted June 3, 2016 Posted June 3, 2016 I wish my local stores had junebug pit bosses in stock... black/blue just doesn't seem to get me as many bites. Quote
druben Posted June 3, 2016 Posted June 3, 2016 13 hours ago, S. Sass said: Pit Boss 28 vs D Bomb 21 Colors Pit Boss 8 pack vs D Bomb 6 pack Pit Boss avg price $3 pack vs D Bomb $4 pack Winner Pit Boss - 7 more colors, 2 more per pack, and generally $1 a pack cheaper. And D Bomb not nearly as available. You're the man Quote
CDMeyer Posted June 3, 2016 Posted June 3, 2016 In my oppion I take the pit boss, they are very effective flipped as well as punched. I just really like the simple design and profile that is slim. When the water moves the legs around it really keys fish in on that action I believe. 1 Quote
Outdoor Zack Posted June 3, 2016 Posted June 3, 2016 On 6/2/2016 at 9:21 PM, LastCastChris said: What size hook do you use to texas rig the 3 and the 4 inch? I use 3/0 for 3" 1 Quote
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