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10 hours ago, the reel ess said:

A judge told me he saw one here while hunting here in SC.

There are people who claim to have seen a UFO also.

With all the hunters, Trail camera's, camper's and vehicles on the roads there is no evidence that one exists.

Nor ever has. Just saying.

R/ Chris

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I am sorry to pen that I have not seen anything I would consider "bazar" while on the water.

Since I am originally from south Louisiana everything I have seen to date is "normal."

Now, that does not mean that the rest of the world would think what I have seen is "normal."

But you need to understand Louisiana people to know that somethings that are "abnormal" to the majority of folks are just plain "normal" to us.

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10 hours ago, the reel ess said:

A judge told me he saw one here while hunting here in SC.

It's definitely possible to see a black puma ,but probably extremely rare(even more rare these days with increased deforestation).Pumas and other big cats are masters at hiding so who knows how many black pumas exist.Down here the Biologist don't even know the exact number of Florida Panthers that are alive.If a Biologist doesn't know,a regular person knows even less. There's even a possibly their could be other big cats down here like Jaguars,it is South Florida after all where so many exotic species have been introduced.

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6 minutes ago, soflabasser said:

It's definitely possible to see a black puma ,but probably extremely rare(even more rare these days with increased deforestation).Pumas and other big cats are masters at hiding so who knows how many black pumas exist.Down here the Biologist don't even know the exact number of Florida Panthers that are alive.If a Biologist doesn't know,a regular person knows even less. There's even a possibly their could be other big cats down here like Jaguars,it is South Florida after all where so many exotic species have been introduced.

Yes, it's sort of the opposite of albinism. So it's statistically possible, though rare.If you have a population, it would eventually happen. It just might take years and years.

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Just now, the reel ess said:

Yes, it's sort of the opposite of albinism. So it's statistically possible, though rare.If you have a population, it would eventually happen. It just might take years and years.

Correct, it is extremely rare and animals like these will only become more rare as time passes since their populations are decreasing thanks to mankind's intrusion into their habitats.

Posted
18 minutes ago, soflabasser said:

It's definitely possible to see a black puma

Not if they do not exist,and if they do someone please show evidence.

 

10 minutes ago, the reel ess said:

If a Biologist doesn't know, a regular person knows even less.

 They know there has NEVER been one.

 

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A fact is a fact and it can be discussed but it doesn't change the outcome of what happened. It was well over 20 years ago when my family and I saw that big black puma or black panther.It could of also been a black jaguar,but whatever it was it definitely was a big,black predatory cat over 100 pounds.I feel blessed to have seen it person, since it was an extremely rare animal that many will never see in their entire lives.

Posted
3 minutes ago, soflabasser said:

A fact is a fact

And the Fact is there is no evidence they exist or ever have.

So we will agree to disagree until anyone can provide proof of this cat.

R/ Chris

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Like I said,I am blessed to have seen that black puma or black panther with my family over 20 years ago. Some random guy online cannot change that,especially one who is not a Biologist with extensive knowledge of these animals. 

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Blessed you may be.

But the facts are they do not scientifically exist.

And you have no idea of my knowledge of the American lion.

R/ Chris

 

Posted
11 minutes ago, Ski said:

But the facts are they do not scientifically exist.

Are you saying there are no big black cats in Southeast US?  I suspect your disagreement is semantics.  The OP said he doesn't know Puma from Panther... just that is was a big black cat.  Exactly what is it you say doesn't exist?

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5 minutes ago, herbu said:

Are you saying there are no big black cats in Southeast US?  I suspect your disagreement is semantics.  The OP said he doesn't know Puma from Panther... just that is was a big black cat.  Exactly what is it you say doesn't exist?

A black puma/mountain lion/catamount/panther

9 minutes ago, herbu said:

I suspect your disagreement is semantics

No sir facts.

 

Posted
1 minute ago, Ski said:

A black puma/mountain lion/catamount/panther

So no big black cats.  Sorry to disappoint you, but you're wrong.  Uncle Si swears he saw one, and all of his stories are 90% true... Jack.  ;)

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On June 5, 2016 at 11:09 PM, trick worms said:

Who votes this is the most off topic argument ever had on BR?

I was about to say this went from interesting stories to a debate over a black panther. 

Posted
On June 3, 2016 at 2:25 PM, daviswill said:

a hawk grab a squirrel from a tree.

i bet that was cool

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Not to muddy the water but I had a friend in high school who's dad said he saw a black panther while riding his horse out in the woods in extreme s.e duval county.(this was in the late 70s)There was definitely a few around there then.What we all concluded was these were very dark Panthers because they stayed in the swamps and their color matched their surroundings.While not truly black, they were dark enough to be thought of as black but not genetically black.

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I was fishing a large cove, around the edge, and heard a flock of ducks on the water hidden by some weeds.  Another flock flew in to join them, but kept flaring and circling instead of landing.  Looking around, I saw the reason why.  There was a bald eagle sitting high in a pine tree overlooking the cove.

After a while, the second flock landed, joining the first.  They drifted out past the weeds where I could see them, and it was a pretty big flock, probably 100 or so.  I quit fishing and just sat there watching.  Eventually something spooked them and they all took off, running across the water to get up speed.  As soon as they flushed, the eagle came out of the tree.

The eagle beaded in on the last duck, a straggler that seemed to be having a little trouble getting airborne.  The eagle dove on him and just as the duck lifted off the water, the eagle slammed him.  Sounded like a baseball hitting the catcher's mitt.  He didn't grab the duck, and went back to his pine tree.  The duck lay in the water, appearing dead.

But he was just knocked out.  After about a minute, the duck came to.  He started running across the water to fly, and the eagle left the tree again.  And again, just as the duck became airborne, the eagle slammed him.  This time the eagle sunk his talons in, had a firm hold of the duck, and flew back to the tree with his lunch.

Very cool.  The assault happened not more than 20 yards from me.

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That reminds me of the time a friend and me were fishing and an osprey suddenly dove and snagged a bass that appeared to be 5-7 pounds.The osprey got him out of the water and was flapping with all his might but could not get but a few feet above the surface.The bass was struggling with all his might as well.So it appeared that the osprey was then trying to disengage her claws and finally was able to "release" the bass.We went over to find the bass but it had disappeared and apparently survived.

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