Super User iabass8 Posted May 30, 2016 Super User Posted May 30, 2016 30 minutes ago, dam0007 said: ***** what? Lol No idea what i typed lol. I should have said " get them" so who knows what my phone did. Quote
dam0007 Posted May 30, 2016 Author Posted May 30, 2016 1 hour ago, iabass8 said: No idea what i typed lol. I should have said " get them" so who knows what my phone did. Hey which rods were you thinking are to low of a power for given technique ? Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted May 30, 2016 Super User Posted May 30, 2016 1 minute ago, dam0007 said: Hey which rods were you thinking are to low of a power for given technique ? Champ 704CB - 4-8ft cranks - i would use the 705cb or cb glass here Champ 705CB - 10-18ft cranks - 100% the 764 or 805 would be better. 705 is not a good deep diving rod. Champ 703C - 3/8-1/2oz T Rig - personally feel your 2 powers light here. I use the dx745 for these. 703 is a senko rod and will be incredibly overloaded . ChampX 703C - 3/8-1/2oz Jig - same as above ten fold. ChampX 744C - C Rig - be fine at 1/2oz or less. Anything over id opt for the champ 765 or dx 745 Quote
dam0007 Posted May 30, 2016 Author Posted May 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, iabass8 said: Champ 704CB - 4-8ft cranks - i would use the 705cb or cb glass here Champ 705CB - 10-18ft cranks - 100% the 764 or 805 would be better. 705 is not a good deep diving rod. Champ 703C - 3/8-1/2oz T Rig - personally feel your 2 powers light here. I use the dx745 for these. 703 is a senko rod and will be incredibly overloaded . ChampX 703C - 3/8-1/2oz Jig - same as above ten fold. ChampX 744C - C Rig - be fine at 1/2oz or less. Anything over id opt for the champ 765 or dx 745 The 704 glass has been good for throwing those little bandit cranks that weigh next to nothing. In selling this Rod tho if I get what I'm asking for it. Just not catching enough quality fish on the small stuff to justify keeping it. The 705 has been pretty much DT10-16 and Pin Jack dedicated. I do need a 765 the beast hunters I throw do over power this Rod. Do you think that would be good or the 764? They gave Paul his own signature Rod I may actually check that out but I think it's a 8 footer. the 2 703s have been perfect for close quarters pitching for me especially the DX. Skipping around laydowns and docks. So used to the 7'1" *** mh/XF that this has taken some getting used to. The other one has been good for pitching the light stuff like t rigged rage bugs and craws. The 744 I've been throwing 3/4oz c Rigs with no issue. Me and Rich we're going back n forth for a while on what would work for me. This is what I ended up with. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted May 30, 2016 Super User Posted May 30, 2016 55 minutes ago, dam0007 said: The 704 glass has been good for throwing those little bandit cranks that weigh next to nothing. In selling this Rod tho if I get what I'm asking for it. Just not catching enough quality fish on the small stuff to justify keeping it. The 705 has been pretty much DT10-16 and Pin Jack dedicated. I do need a 765 the beast hunters I throw do over power this Rod. Do you think that would be good or the 764? They gave Paul his own signature Rod I may actually check that out but I think it's a 8 footer. the 2 703s have been perfect for close quarters pitching for me especially the DX. Skipping around laydowns and docks. So used to the 7'1" *** mh/XF that this has taken some getting used to. The other one has been good for pitching the light stuff like t rigged rage bugs and craws. The 744 I've been throwing 3/4oz c Rigs with no issue. Me and Rich we're going back n forth for a while on what would work for me. This is what I ended up with. Hard to say which you would prefer. You definitely use lighter powered rods than what is traditionally used. Quote
dam0007 Posted May 31, 2016 Author Posted May 31, 2016 6 hours ago, iabass8 said: Hard to say which you would prefer. You definitely use lighter powered rods than what is traditionally used. Lol yeah I agree. So playing around with the list moving things around how does this look so far. The 2 with * are rods I'm gonna be ordering. All the reels in bold are what I just ordered this past week. Minus the zillion HLC I pre ordered. Casting: Fury 705CB - Squarebills - Tat 5.5:1 'Crazy Cranker' Fury 735C - Frogs - Tatula Tactical 8.1:1 Fury 795SB - A Rig/Swimbaits - Tatula HD JDM 6.3:1 Savvy 663C - Flukes - Tatula Type R 6.3:1 Champ 684CB - Jerkbaits - Scorpion 1001XT Champ 685CB - Topwater - Scorpion 1001XT Champ 704CB Glass - 4-8ft cranks - Chronarch 201E6 Champ 705CB - 8-12ft cranks - Chronarch 201E5 *Champ 765CB - 14ft+ cranks - Chronarch 201E5 Champ XP 734C - SpinBuzzChat - Chronarch 201E7 Champ 702C - 3/16oz Jig - Tatula 6.3:1 Champ 703C - 3/8-1/2oz T Rig - Tatula 6.3:1 DC HP 703C - 3/8-1/2oz Jig - Zillion SV 9.1:1 DX HP 743C - Keitechs - Tatula HLC DX HP 744C - C Rig - Zillion TW HLC *DX HP 795Flip - Flipping - IS71 Spinning: Custom 1 - Shakey Head - Ballistic 2500ex Custom 2 - Drop Shot - Ballistic 2000ex the 702 and 703 might upgrade those to 2 more of the zillion SV if I'm impressed with it. Or maybe save a buck and grab 2 Tat CTs. The Scorps and Chronarchs can hold me over as from this point in the season I won't be throwing those for awhile minus topwater. Critique - side note this leaves (2) Curado 201G7 (1) Citica 201G6 (1) Met XG (1) Citica 201I HG (1) Curado 201I (1) Chronarch ci4 HG available to sell. Could start recouping some funds lol Quote
mojojojo Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 On May 27, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Cgrinder said: On the one hand I hate the Twing, on the other hand I'd like some 9:1's. Let me know how that Zilion SV works out please. How in the world could you dislike the T wing? Quote
Cgrinder Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, mojojojo said: How in the world could you dislike the T wing? Gimmicky and, up until relatively recently, faulty. I should note that I am a four fingers in front of the trigger palmer and wide-nose reels don't agree with that. 1 Quote
dam0007 Posted May 31, 2016 Author Posted May 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, Cgrinder said: Gimmicky and, up until relatively recently, faulty. I should note that I am a four fingers in front of the trigger palmer and wide-nose reels don't agree with that. Yeah bro when I was using the ** rods. The reel seat was not working for me with the tats. Now with the standard reel seats in my new rods have no issue how I palm. I hear your gripe brother! Quote
dam0007 Posted June 6, 2016 Author Posted June 6, 2016 How is the New Alphas SV? Do they palm much smaller than the Tats/Zillions? Thinking maybe something smaller for top water and jerkbait rods? Idk was using the Scopion 1001XTs Quote
IDUTBass Posted June 6, 2016 Posted June 6, 2016 18 minutes ago, dam0007 said: How is the New Alphas SV? Do they palm much smaller than the Tats/Zillions? Thinking maybe something smaller for top water and jerkbait rods? Idk was using the Scopion 1001XTs I really like my alphas sv. It is much smaller than my Tatula type r. It can be a little finicky to dial in at first but does well after you get used to it. 1 Quote
Yudo1 Posted June 6, 2016 Posted June 6, 2016 Alphas sv is about the same size as the scorpion xt. The 7.2 gear model makes a great jerk bait/top water reel and it will even throw the little x rap 8's. 1 Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted June 6, 2016 Super User Posted June 6, 2016 2 hours ago, IDUTBass said: I really like my alphas sv. It is much smaller than my Tatula type r. It can be a little finicky to dial in at first but does well after you get used to it. I am not sure about why but I would tend to agree with that statement. My Alphas SV 105 appeared to have a sticky inductor when I got it. I followed a tip from a friend about lightly oiling something around that inductor (can't recall what at the moment) and haven't had a problem since. It casts very controlled and pretty far for baits under 3/8. I use mine for jerkbaits, finesse jigs, and small plastics. One of the best palming reels out there and relatively light as well. 1 Quote
Super User Angry John Posted June 6, 2016 Super User Posted June 6, 2016 So this is a huge move so I hate to piecemill you. I have and love the champ 764 randy cranking rod and its a special rod. Short the larger cranks like the Norman dd22 and larger its great. The randy 805 works for the larger baits but I don't use those and don't have that rod. Gary helped me out on this rod and I am so happy I called. Quote
dam0007 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Posted June 9, 2016 On May 30, 2016 at 4:11 PM, iabass8 said: Champ 704CB - 4-8ft cranks - i would use the 705cb or cb glass here Champ 705CB - 10-18ft cranks - 100% the 764 or 805 would be better. 705 is not a good deep diving rod. Champ 703C - 3/8-1/2oz T Rig - personally feel your 2 powers light here. I use the dx745 for these. 703 is a senko rod and will be incredibly overloaded . ChampX 703C - 3/8-1/2oz Jig - same as above ten fold. ChampX 744C - C Rig - be fine at 1/2oz or less. Anything over id opt for the champ 765 or dx 745 Hey bro Critique the line up again lol it will be this if I cancel my Zillion HLC pre order and keep the CTs Casting: Fury 705CB - Squarebills - Tatula 5.5:1 JDM - 16# Super Natural GREEN Fury 735C - Frogs - Tatula Tactical 8.1:1 - 65# FX2 Fury 795SB - A Rig/Swimbaits - Tatula HD 6.3:1 JDM - 65# FX2 Savvy 663C - Flukes - Tatula Type R 6.3:1 - 16# Super Natural GREEN Champ 684CB - Jerkbaits - Zillion SV 6.3:1 - 8# Assassin FC Champ 685CB - Topwater - Zillion SV 7.3:1 - 14# Super Natural CLEAR Champ 705CB - 8-12ft cranks - Zillion SV 5.5:1 JDM - 10# Sniper Champ XP 765CB - 12ft+ cranks - Zillion SV 5.5:1 JDM - 10# Sniper Champ XP 734C - SpinBuzzChat - Tatula Tactical 7.3:1 - 17# Defier Armilo Champ 702C - 3/16-1/4oz Jig - Tatula CT Type R 8.1:1 - 10# Sniper Champ 703C - 3/8-1/2oz T Rig - Tatula CT Type R 8.1:1 - 15# Assassin FC DX HP 703C - 3/8-1/2oz Jig - Zillion SV 9.1:1 JDM - 12# Assassin FC DX HP 743C - Keitechs - Tatula HLC JDM - 10# Shooter DX HP 744C - 1/2oz+ C & T Rig - Zillion SV 9.1:1 JDM - 16# Shooter DX HP 795Flip - Flippin' - Megabass IS71 - 16# Flippin' FC Spinning: Custom 1 - Shakey Head - Ballistic 2500ex - 16# SX1 Main Line - 10# Sniper Leader Custom 2 - Drop Shot - Ballistic 2000ex - 12# SX1 Main Line - 7# Sniper Leader Leftovers: CS 704CB Glass (2) Tatula 6.3:1 if anything I still do the HLC and get another 744 DX or even a 704. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted June 9, 2016 Super User Posted June 9, 2016 I would swap your champ 702 for the dx742c HP. I just got one and plan on getting another. Sweet rod. You'll love that dx795. Good addition. Awesome flipping/punching rod. You may want to try spinnerbaits/buzz/chatter on a 3 power. I typically prefer a heavier powered rod and use th 3 powers for all those techniques . Lots like a 4 though. looks good though! Still can't believe you're using the 3 power for 1/2oz jigs amd trigs. You crazy. Quote
dam0007 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Posted June 9, 2016 1 hour ago, iabass8 said: I would swap your champ 702 for the dx742c HP. I just got one and plan on getting another. Sweet rod. You'll love that dx795. Good addition. Awesome flipping/punching rod. You may want to try spinnerbaits/buzz/chatter on a 3 power. I typically prefer a heavier powered rod and use th 3 powers for all those techniques . Lots like a 4 though. looks good though! Still can't believe you're using the 3 power for 1/2oz jigs amd trigs. You crazy. I was thinking about that with the 702 for the DX702 but I heard there's no where near the backbone of the 702 I have. The 742 is too long for those little thing. I also throw little cabin creeks on that Rod with 1/4oz heads. I was using the 703C for spin buzz chat but wanted a full grip and Rich convinced me the 734 is the way to go. So far it's been killer for the 1/2oz Super Eruptions. Well for 2 years was using the *** 7'1" MH/XF for jigs. It was just a hair stiffer than the DX 703. Another option I was thinking grab a Fury 733 or 734 for spin buzz chat. And promote the champ 734 to Trig duty. Do the Zil HLC for the DX 744. I'd then have both covered rather than a Rod sharing duties. I'm almost there thank God! Edit* some buddies telling me the IS71 is not gonna be a good flippin/punchin reel. Ahh idk prob gonna have to move some things around. Might end up with a SV103 then.... Dam Quote
dam0007 Posted June 15, 2016 Author Posted June 15, 2016 On June 9, 2016 at 9:21 AM, iabass8 said: I would swap your champ 702 for the dx742c HP. I just got one and plan on getting another. Sweet rod. You'll love that dx795. Good addition. Awesome flipping/punching rod. You may want to try spinnerbaits/buzz/chatter on a 3 power. I typically prefer a heavier powered rod and use th 3 powers for all those techniques . Lots like a 4 though. looks good though! Still can't believe you're using the 3 power for 1/2oz jigs amd trigs. You crazy. Did a little revision Quote
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