stk44 Posted May 10, 2016 Posted May 10, 2016 I have a predator MX SOT kayak. I love it, but am in need of a good anchor trolley system. Can anyone recommend a reputable anchor trolley? I would also prefer it not require drilling into my $1300 kayak... Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted May 10, 2016 Super User Posted May 10, 2016 I'm not handy with tools (at all!) and didn't want to drill into my new kayak, either. That said, I got the Yak Gear Deluxe trolley and I absolutely love it. I've since bought a riveter and a tube of Goop and have drilled (almost?) fearlessly and extremely successfully a number of times. 1 Quote
stk44 Posted May 10, 2016 Author Posted May 10, 2016 22 minutes ago, Choporoz said: I'm not handy with tools (at all!) and didn't want to drill into my new kayak, either. That said, I got the Yak Gear Deluxe trolley and I absolutely love it. I've since bought a riveter and a tube of Goop and have drilled (almost?) fearlessly and extremely successfully a number of times. And the kayak has been leak free? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 10, 2016 Super User Posted May 10, 2016 Harmony makes a decent trolley. The Yakattack trolley came out after I installed mine, but it's what I'd be using. Quote
stk44 Posted May 10, 2016 Author Posted May 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, J Francho said: Harmony makes a decent trolley. The Yakattack trolley came out after I installed mine, but it's what I'd be using. I'm guessing they will all involve drilling? It's not the drilling part I have an issue with, it's the drilling into a water tight capsule that I don't like the idea of. Quote
Super User Darren. Posted May 10, 2016 Super User Posted May 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, stk44 said: And the kayak has been leak free? I can't speak for him, but my kayak is a hybrid, sits really low to the water and I have a bunch of holes in it. In fact, I even changed where my foot tracks are. I simply patched the holes and I'm good to go. Drilling into a kayak is not something to be afraid of It hurts when you first do it tho. Just use the proper marine goop and you're all set. There are a lot of different trolleys out there, including DIY. If you have a West Marine or store like that, you can piece the kit together, or use the Harmony, Yakattack, or visit some online stores like austinkayak.com and paddleva.com and check theirs out. 2 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 10, 2016 Super User Posted May 10, 2016 1. despite what you think, it's not water tight. 2. we've been drilling into our boat hulls without issue for a 100 years. Why would a kayak be any different? 3. just follow the instructions, and properly seal the holes. 1 Quote
stk44 Posted May 10, 2016 Author Posted May 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Darren. said: I can't speak for him, but my kayak is a hybrid, sits really low to the water and I have a bunch of holes in it. In fact, I even changed where my foot tracks are. I simply patched the holes and I'm good to go. Drilling into a kayak is not something to be afraid of It hurts when you first do it tho. Just use the proper marine goop and you're all set. There are a lot of different trolleys out there, including DIY. If you have a West Marine or store like that, you can piece the kit together, or use the Harmony, Yakattack, or visit some online stores like austinkayak.com and paddleva.com and check theirs out. Thank you sir! Will any auto parts store carry said "marine goop"? 1 Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted May 10, 2016 Super User Posted May 10, 2016 Darren's right. It does hurt a little the first time that drill bit grabs the plastic. But, yes, mine has got NO water inside (nor has my wife's) and I continue to put holes in them. http://www.amazon.com/Eclectic-Products-170011-Marine-Adhesive/dp/B000LNMVI0 2 Quote
stk44 Posted May 10, 2016 Author Posted May 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, Choporoz said: Darren's right. It does hurt a little the first time that drill bit grabs the plastic. But, yes, mine has got NO water inside (nor has my wife's) and I continue to put holes in them. http://www.amazon.com/Eclectic-Products-170011-Marine-Adhesive/dp/B000LNMVI0 Cool thanks! Quote
Super User Darren. Posted May 10, 2016 Super User Posted May 10, 2016 23 minutes ago, stk44 said: Thank you sir! Will any auto parts store carry said "marine goop"? I can only say "maybe" if they also have products for boaters...which some do around lakes and such. @Choporoz gave you a link, so that might take care of your attempt to find some. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 10, 2016 Super User Posted May 10, 2016 There's tons of videos out there that show you how. Take some time to watch some YouTube DIY, and you'll get more confidence. 1 Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted May 10, 2016 Super User Posted May 10, 2016 agree with the above... it'll hurt the first time, but gets easier from there! watch the videos, lay it all out, take your time, all will be fine! the harken pulleys that come with the yakattack version are where it's at, very good quality. 1 Quote
desmobob Posted May 10, 2016 Posted May 10, 2016 5 hours ago, Darren. said: If you have a West Marine or store like that, you can piece the kit together... I went to the West Marine web store, picked out the hardware, and put together a DIY trolley that works great and was cheap. Once you drill that first hole, the worrying subsides. My kayak is a conventional model, so I used those "expanding rubber plug screws" if you know what I mean. I don't know the correct name for them. They're all above the water line, so no worries.... Tight lines, Bob 2 Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted May 10, 2016 Super User Posted May 10, 2016 Mine is 100% DIY. You can pick up some hardware at Lowe's/Home Depot etc. and makes one relatively cheap. If you aren't comfortable making one then some good suggestions have been mentioned already. 1 Quote
THE_Vue's Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 12 hours ago, stk44 said: I have a predator MX SOT kayak. I love it, but am in need of a good anchor trolley system. Can anyone recommend a reputable anchor trolley? I would also prefer it not require drilling into my $1300 kayak... check this out. You could also use the bow stern handles to attach the pulleys. The only down fall is the the rope will come over the deck. But since I have my Native cam locks(Paddle Holder) the rope sits over the edge of the cams lock around the curvature of the boat. Otherwise I was thinking of getting some smaller J mounts and JB welding on the side of the boat for the line so it sits nicely on the side. I've done this with my Slayer 12 and on the other side have the Harken260. All I needed was the pulley also picked up some reflective paracord off ebay to mactch the kayak and a larger nylon ring or aluminum. 1 Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted May 11, 2016 Super User Posted May 11, 2016 even if you do the DIY route, which is not hard at all, i'd still look at the harken pulleys. they are MUCH quieter than attaching a regular pulley and work very well! if you want to use rivets, i'd suggest the tri grip rivets, they work very well for this application and if you go with the nut/bolt route use the well nuts. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 11, 2016 Super User Posted May 11, 2016 Well nuts....should be renamed "hell nuts" lol. Rivets, rivets, rivets! If you want to get fancy, Yakattack has rigging bullets, and the videos will show you how to use them in different situations, where you want to use a traditional screw/locknut fastener. They're pretty cool. I know this sounds hokey, but the "DIY" route is pretty much exactly the same as a pro install. Just that pro installer has done more than one. I don't think we'll ever get to the point where things are "pre-configured," due to tight quarters. Slide Trax on Wildy boats gets us pretty colse, though. Last tip - a little silent traction material behind pulleys reduces the clanking on the hull problem. Some pulleys, you can just put the silent traction right on them. I put this stuff all over the place in my boats: http://www.harmonygear.com/products/4365/Harmony-Silent-Traction-Pads.html 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted May 11, 2016 Super User Posted May 11, 2016 Yak Attack anchor trolley is the one to go with. The leverlock feature is worth the price of admission in and of itself. I also use rivets and marine grade silicone and have no issues with leaking. Your anchor trolley shouldn't be under the water line anyways so even if you skimp on the silicone, you will probably still be ok. 3 Quote
stk44 Posted May 12, 2016 Author Posted May 12, 2016 Ok, thanks for the replies. I will do a little more research and watch DIY's as well. I'm leaning towards the yak attack. 1 Quote
stk44 Posted June 15, 2016 Author Posted June 15, 2016 Just installed my YakAttack. Cannot wait to use it. I can finally slow down and fish an area effectively. Hopefully this is a game changer. Quote
run23 Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 a pretty popular suggestion for an anchor trolly is to rig one up and use it a couple/few times without drilling. i took this suggestion and i'm glad i did. i just made a functional (and ugly) trolly with pieces from depot and rigged it up on the right side of my kayak. liked it. moved it to the left side...liked it more. now i have the yakattak leverloc sitting on my desk and will be installing it on the left later today. 1 Quote
stk44 Posted June 15, 2016 Author Posted June 15, 2016 2 hours ago, run23 said: a pretty popular suggestion for an anchor trolly is to rig one up and use it a couple/few times without drilling. i took this suggestion and i'm glad i did. i just made a functional (and ugly) trolly with pieces from depot and rigged it up on the right side of my kayak. liked it. moved it to the left side...liked it more. now i have the yakattak leverloc sitting on my desk and will be installing it on the left later today. Well, I've already drilled my holes. Hopefully I can't think of any ways to improve it lol. Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted June 15, 2016 Super User Posted June 15, 2016 1 hour ago, stk44 said: Well, I've already drilled my holes. Hopefully I can't think of any ways to improve it lol. It does hurt to start drilling in, but I must have 20+ holes in mine now from all the stuff I have added and never had any issues with any of them. 1 Quote
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