nanofil and soap

[jimmyjoe]

    How many people here use Nanofil? For open water, it's my line of choice. However, it wasn't always that way. When I first tried Nanofil, I hated it. I used the recommended double Palomar, but knot after knot after knot broke at low pull weights. I was disgusted. But then I discovered something, and I've been a Nanofil fan ever since. I form the double Palomar like usual, but then I put a drop of either liquid soap (a lubricant) or no-scent fabric softener (ditto) on the bight and pull slowly. To prevent those chemicals messing with the water, I use a wet kerchief to daub the knot. Doing it this way, I have no trouble anymore. Anyone else tie knots this way?    Jimmyjoe.

[bigturtle]

Ya, wetting the knot to prevent heat build-up during the cinching is a common practice thats applied to every line, except braid.

[jimmyjoe]

    Wetting did nothing. That line needs an actual film lubricant. Both of those named dissolve in water, which helps loads over other lubes like silicone grease or frying pan spray, neither of which I want to use. Test 3 knots with water or saliva, then test 3 with liquid soap. You'll see a big difference.Jj

[bigturtle]

i dont carry liquid soap around when i fish, and I can't remember the last time my knot itself failed due to poor tying. I never used nanofil, but its probably just that line that needs special skin care.

[R H Clark]

Thanks for the tip! I've not had problems with Nanofil breaking due to the knot. It's likely because I use it as my ultralight line at 6lb when 4lb would be all I really need. The only problem I have ever had was abrasion. I just keep a close eye on it and retie if necessary.

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

I just use a different/better knot. My 6# nanofill with different knot holds to 9#. My 8#nanofil with different knot holds to 12#.

[jimmyjoe]

" I just use a different/better knot. My 6# nanofill with different knot holds to 9#. My 8#nanofil with different knot holds to 12#."

YOU HAVE MY ABSOLUTE, UNDIVIDED ATTENTION ......!   Which knot is that?    Jj

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

A modified uni knot

double the line -maybe a foot or so

pass thru eye twice

6 turn uni

wet

cinch down

cut tags leaving 1/4"

I too lost fish with the box recommended knot but since going to above knot havent lost any, still need to check line though to see if retie is in order after 4-5 fish I dont use leader.

[BassThumb]

2 hours ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

A modified uni knot

double the line -maybe a foot or so

pass thru eye twice

6 turn uni

wet

cinch down

cut tags leaving 1/4"

I too lost fish with the box recommended knot but since going to above knot havent lost any, still need to check line though to see if retie is in order after 4-5 fish I dont use leader.

Good share! I'll try it tomorrow.

[jimmyjoe]

    Thank you!  Jj

[.ghoti.]

Megastrike works too. I always have a bait rigged up, with it applied, so it's easy to rub a little bit on the line before tying the knot.

[cbass12]

I use a modified albright and with a little spit I hardly ever have any issues getting it to tighten down properly. Every now and then it will pull out of the leader material and I'll have to re-tie it, but it doesn't happen very often.