Frog Rigging Question

[G3 Fan]

  I went through about 5 Zoom Horny Toads in an hour the other night. I was lucky to get two fish on one before they were ruined. The problem was that the center of the bait was getting ripped open. Right along the hook groove. I am guessing that when I set the hook the hook was tearing it.

  Is this to be expected or am I rigging them wrong? I am rigging them Texposed. I didn't know if I should try pegging the hook eye or something to keep the hook from being able to move.

[ben watson]

what type of hook are you using? i use 5/0 gama ewg, also just a suggestion manns hardnosed toads really can take a beating, one time i caught 4 big pickeral and 3 lm bass and i still have the frog

[G3 Fan]

I have been using 4/0 EWG hooks, I think I will try those Mann's. I bought some of the Hard Nose Lizards this spring and was really impressed with how long they lasted.

Thanks

[armesjr]

Use the horny toad hooks, that have the little screw by the eyelet.  You can catch a lot of fish before the frog tears up using those hooks.

[Chris at Tech]

I agree.  Use the hooks with the corkscrew.  MUCH better!

[gatrboy53]

also get some softbait glue or even super glue and glue em back together.use a bead in front of the hook it helps a little.

[Banor]

You dont have to use the horny toad hooks.  You can buy the cork screws seperately from BPS.  I would not use less than a 5/0 and definately an EWG.  The 5/0 rigs up better and I havent had a problem going through frogs.  Generally my issue is after a few fish the cork screw has chewed up the nose.

IMHO the horny toads action is slightly different than the Mann's Hard Nose.  I prefer the horny toads.  I would not base my decision on which one to throw because they tear up.  I'd use different hooks or rig differently.  Stick with the horny toads!  Just my personal opinion.

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[Autiger1291]

I'm having the same problem man. Went through two bags on 15 bass. The Toads were all they wanted and I was out. I just took all my old ones(they had ripped at the nose) and melted them back together with a lighter. It bought me one more fish per frog. Rigged with a 4/0 gammy EWG. If I was you I would not change to the Mann's Toad. The Horny Toad has better action and it has the double threat of a subsurface bait. I'm thinking about picking up some Zoom Horny Toad Hooks. They are supposed to help alot.

[G3 Fan]

Thanks to everyone for the great advice. I have a BPS gift card so I am thinking I will be buying some hooks and I might go ahead and get a pack of the Mann's just to see how they behave.

Thanks again.

[Raul]

You forgot to add a bottle of soft bait glue to that list.