TedderX Posted April 24, 2016 Posted April 24, 2016 I THOUGHT there were only three but now I've read something that says there are more. What are the other species? I know grayling exists, but it's not a species of trout, is it? Brook Trout (the only one native to America). Rainbow Trout Brown Trout What are the others? Quote
ClearCreek Posted April 24, 2016 Posted April 24, 2016 48 minutes ago, TedderX said: I THOUGHT there were only three but now I've read something that says there are more. What are the other species? I know grayling exists, but it's not a species of trout, is it? Brook Trout (the only one native to America). Rainbow Trout Brown Trout What are the others? There are many species of trout in North America. Brook, brown, lake trout, rainbow, bull trout, Dolly Varden, cutthroat (there are numerous species and subspecies) and if you include salmon, Atlantic salmon plus the are five species of Pacific salmon (king, chum, sockeye, pink and coho), grayling, whitefish. etc. The brown trout is the only one not native to North America. If you want to read more about trout go to the library and get the book, "Trout and Salmon of North America" by Robert Behnke. ClearCreek 1 Quote
Super User Jar11591 Posted April 24, 2016 Super User Posted April 24, 2016 In NY they also stock hybrid trout. Tiger trout, which is a brown/brook hybrid. And also "Splake" which is a brook trout/laker hybrid. Grayling is a Salmonid, but not actually a "trout". And if we're nitpicking, brook trout and lake trout aren't trout either--they're technically "char". All in the Salmonid family along with pacific and Atlantic salmon, steelhead (rainbow from the ocean or Great Lakes), and whitefish. Quote
CenCal fisher Posted April 24, 2016 Posted April 24, 2016 There is also the golden trout in part of california 2 Quote
Turkey sandwich Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 16 hours ago, Jar11591 said: In NY they also stock hybrid trout. Tiger trout, which is a brown/brook hybrid. And also "Splake" which is a brook trout/laker hybrid. Grayling is a Salmonid, but not actually a "trout". And if we're nitpicking, brook trout and lake trout aren't trout either--they're technically "char". All in the Salmonid family along with pacific and Atlantic salmon, steelhead (rainbow from the ocean or Great Lakes), and whitefish. Whitefish are salmonids? The others I'm familiar with. Brook trout, Lakers, bull trout, Dolly Varden/Arctic char - all char. Trout - brown, rainbow, cutthroat, golden. Hybrids - tiger, splake... Feel like I'm missing something. Quote
Super User Jar11591 Posted April 25, 2016 Super User Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Turkey sandwich said: Whitefish are salmonids? Lake whitefish and mountain whitefish are both salmonids if I'm not mistaken. But I'm going to look it up. Update: https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-153-10364_18958-45680--,00.html Edited April 25, 2016 by Jar11591 https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-153-10364_18958-45680--,00.html 1 Quote
Turkey sandwich Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Did not know that. I just remember them being delicious. 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted April 25, 2016 Super User Posted April 25, 2016 This pretty much nails it with the exception that bull and brook "trout" are actually char as stated by others. then there are the golden as well. On April 24, 2016 at 0:14 AM, ClearCreek said: There are many species of trout in North America. Brook, brown, lake trout, rainbow, bull trout, Dolly Varden, cutthroat (there are numerous species and subspecies) and if you include salmon, Atlantic salmon plus the are five species of Pacific salmon (king, chum, sockeye, pink and coho), grayling, whitefish. etc. The brown trout is the only one not native to North America. If you want to read more about trout go to the library and get the book, "Trout and Salmon of North America" by Robert Behnke. ClearCreek Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 25, 2016 Super User Posted April 25, 2016 I thought Ciscoe were related as well? Quote
Super User Jar11591 Posted April 25, 2016 Super User Posted April 25, 2016 1 hour ago, J Francho said: I thought Ciscoe were related as well? Yup, ciscoes, and round whitefish as well. 1 Quote
Bladesmith, Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Brown trout is also not a true trout. It is in the char family. The char family as I understand it spawn in the fall and the trout family are spring spawners. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 25, 2016 Super User Posted April 25, 2016 No, browns are not a char, they are a salmonoid of the genus Salmo, species trutta. They literally are the 1st species of described trout, and in fact "trutta" literally translates to trout from Latin. 3 Quote
Bladesmith, Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Hmmm. Learn something every day.........Well........some days anyway. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 25, 2016 Super User Posted April 25, 2016 In taxonomic terms, they are the first trout. Atlantic salmon are the other species that belong to the genus Salmo. There are also subspecies of browns, though I'm sure how many are just synonyms, and not widely accepted. Depends on who/where you get the info from. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 25, 2016 Super User Posted April 25, 2016 Also, most salmonoids spawn in summer or fall, depending on range. Typically, rainbows spawn in spring. Quote
Super User Jar11591 Posted April 25, 2016 Super User Posted April 25, 2016 Here's a couple a couple more: The Dolly Varden and Bull trout were considered the same species until late 20th century. Also, the land locked form of Sockeye salmon is called Kokanee, and they actually get stocked in ponds in the adkirondack mountains. The landlocked form of Atlantic salmon is just referred to as "landlocked salmon". 46 minutes ago, J Francho said: There are also subspecies of browns, though I'm sure how many are just synonyms, and not widely accepted. Depends on who/where you get the info from. I have heard that in the Great Lakes, they stock a German subspecies of Browns. They are supposed to grow a lot bigger and they usually are missing 1 pectoral fin. The 13 pound brown I caught out of Lake Ontario happened to be missing a pectoral fin. Know anything about this? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 25, 2016 Super User Posted April 25, 2016 The NYDEC only got their million dollar fin clipping machine a few years ago, and someone correct me if I'm wrong that these fish are from the Salmon R. farm. Can't speak for the rest of the state fishery departments. Anyway, this guy has all it's fins Oh, and while we're at it...check out this weirdo. The top is a Coho. The bottom is a confirmed Coho x King cross, that the DEC denies exists. Note the large adipose fin, and increased spots, as well as head shape. Coloring is all Coho, though. 2 Quote
TedderX Posted April 26, 2016 Author Posted April 26, 2016 I stand corrected. I meant to say brook trout are the only ones native to Appalachia/eastern US. That is correct, isn't it? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 26, 2016 Super User Posted April 26, 2016 There's lakers and Atlantics on the east coast as well. Quote
Derekbass02 Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 I may be wrong but I think Brook Trout are a species of char. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 28, 2016 Super User Posted April 28, 2016 The debate over subspecies and/or races rages on. The current fashion leans towards the splitters. DNA research supports much of it. Quote
Big-Bass Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Don't forget the specific species of trout in Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine lakes that are basically unique and found no where else. Research Blueback Trout, Coastal Brook Trout, etc. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 1, 2017 Super User Posted May 1, 2017 Blueback trout is a subspecies of Atlantic char, if I'm not mistaken. Coastal brook trout are simply a sea run brook trout. Not unlike sea run rainbow trout or steelhead. Neither enjoy unique species status, scientifically speaking, though they are interesting fishes. Quote
Big-Bass Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 How about the Ohrid Trout? http://www.in-fisherman.com/trout-salmon/trout/rare-and-exotic-trout/ Quote
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