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I THOUGHT there were only three but now I've read something that says there are more.  What are the other species?  I know grayling exists, but it's not a species of trout, is it?

Brook Trout (the only one native to America).

Rainbow Trout

Brown Trout

What are the others?

 

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48 minutes ago, TedderX said:

I THOUGHT there were only three but now I've read something that says there are more.  What are the other species?  I know grayling exists, but it's not a species of trout, is it?

Brook Trout (the only one native to America).

Rainbow Trout

Brown Trout

What are the others?

 

There are many species of trout in North America.

Brook, brown, lake trout, rainbow, bull trout, Dolly Varden, cutthroat (there are numerous species and subspecies)  and if you include salmon, Atlantic salmon plus the are five species of Pacific salmon (king, chum, sockeye, pink and coho), grayling, whitefish. etc. 

The brown trout is the only one not native to North America. 

If you want to read more about trout go to the library and get the book, "Trout and Salmon of North America" by Robert Behnke. 

 

ClearCreek

 

 

 

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In NY they also stock hybrid trout. Tiger trout, which is a brown/brook hybrid. And also "Splake" which is a brook trout/laker hybrid. Grayling is a Salmonid, but not actually a "trout". And if we're nitpicking, brook trout and lake trout aren't trout either--they're technically "char". All in the Salmonid family along with pacific and Atlantic salmon, steelhead (rainbow from the ocean or Great Lakes), and whitefish. 

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16 hours ago, Jar11591 said:

In NY they also stock hybrid trout. Tiger trout, which is a brown/brook hybrid. And also "Splake" which is a brook trout/laker hybrid. Grayling is a Salmonid, but not actually a "trout". And if we're nitpicking, brook trout and lake trout aren't trout either--they're technically "char". All in the Salmonid family along with pacific and Atlantic salmon, steelhead (rainbow from the ocean or Great Lakes), and whitefish. 

 

Whitefish are salmonids?  

 

The others I'm familiar with.  Brook trout, Lakers, bull trout, Dolly Varden/Arctic char - all char.  Trout - brown, rainbow, cutthroat, golden. Hybrids - tiger, splake... Feel like I'm missing something.

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22 minutes ago, Turkey sandwich said:

 

Whitefish are salmonids?  

 

Lake whitefish and mountain whitefish are both salmonids if I'm not mistaken. But I'm going to look it up.

 

Update:  https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-153-10364_18958-45680--,00.html

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https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-153-10364_18958-45680--,00.html
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This pretty much nails it with the exception that bull and brook "trout" are actually char as stated by others. then there are the golden as well.  

On April 24, 2016 at 0:14 AM, ClearCreek said:

There are many species of trout in North America.

Brook, brown, lake trout, rainbow, bull trout, Dolly Varden, cutthroat (there are numerous species and subspecies)  and if you include salmon, Atlantic salmon plus the are five species of Pacific salmon (king, chum, sockeye, pink and coho), grayling, whitefish. etc. 

The brown trout is the only one not native to North America. 

If you want to read more about trout go to the library and get the book, "Trout and Salmon of North America" by Robert Behnke. 

 

ClearCreek

 

 

 

 

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I thought Ciscoe were related as well?

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1 hour ago, J Francho said:

I thought Ciscoe were related as well?

Yup, ciscoes, and round whitefish as well. 

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Brown trout is also not a true trout. It is in the char family. The char family as I understand it spawn in the fall and the trout family are spring spawners.

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No, browns are not a char, they are a salmonoid of the genus Salmo, species trutta.  They literally are the 1st species of described trout, and in fact "trutta" literally translates to trout from Latin.

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Hmmm. Learn something every day.........Well........some days anyway.

 

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In taxonomic terms, they are the first trout. :)

Atlantic salmon are the other species that belong to the genus Salmo.  There are also subspecies of browns, though I'm sure how many are just synonyms, and not widely accepted.  Depends on who/where you get the info from.

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Also, most salmonoids spawn in summer or fall, depending on range.  Typically, rainbows spawn in spring.

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Here's a couple a couple more: The Dolly Varden and Bull trout were considered the same species until late 20th century. Also, the land locked form of Sockeye salmon is called Kokanee, and they actually get stocked in ponds in the adkirondack mountains. The landlocked form of Atlantic salmon is just referred to as "landlocked salmon".

46 minutes ago, J Francho said:

 There are also subspecies of browns, though I'm sure how many are just synonyms, and not widely accepted.  Depends on who/where you get the info from.

I have heard that in the Great Lakes, they stock a German subspecies of Browns. They are supposed to grow a lot bigger and they usually are missing 1 pectoral fin. The 13 pound brown I caught out of Lake Ontario happened to be missing a pectoral fin. Know anything about this? 

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The NYDEC only got their million dollar fin clipping machine a few years ago, and someone correct me if I'm wrong that these fish are from the Salmon R. farm.  Can't speak for the rest of the state fishery departments.

Anyway, this guy has all it's fins ;)

 

bigBrownBuck.JPG

Oh, and while we're at it...check out this weirdo.  The top is a Coho.  The bottom is a confirmed Coho x King cross, that the DEC denies exists. Note the large adipose fin, and increased spots, as well as head shape.  Coloring is all Coho, though.

coho-king cross on the bottom.jpg

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I stand corrected.  I meant to say brook trout are the only ones native to Appalachia/eastern US.

That is correct, isn't it?

 

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There's lakers and Atlantics on the east coast as well. 

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I may be wrong but I think Brook Trout are a species of char.

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The debate over subspecies and/or races rages on.  The current fashion leans towards the splitters.  DNA research supports much of it.

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Don't forget the specific species of trout in Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine lakes that are basically unique and found no where else.  

 

Research Blueback Trout, Coastal Brook Trout, etc.

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Blueback trout is a subspecies of Atlantic char, if I'm not mistaken.

 

Coastal brook trout are simply a sea run brook trout.  Not unlike sea run rainbow trout or steelhead.

 

Neither enjoy unique species status, scientifically speaking, though they are interesting fishes.

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