Will a moderate tip cover all of these bases?

[loudcherokee]

Wondering if there is a rod out there under $150 that would do good for the following:

Spinnerbaits/chatterbaits

Buzz baits

Top water treble hook baits like spooks, jerk baits, poppers, floating rapalas, jitterbug, etc.

Shallow to medium depth crank baits like KVD 1.5 squarebills, bomber a's, etc

Lipless cranks

Is there one rod that would handle all of these or should I use two seperate rods? Which of the above baits would you throw on each rod?

LC

[00 mod]

2 separate rods.  Things with a single hook ( spinner/chatter/buzz) that you mentioned need a faster tip and more back bone to set the single hook!

Jeff

[Raul]

2 hours ago, 00 mod said:

2 separate rods.  Things with a single hook ( spinner/chatter/buzz) that you mentioned need a faster tip and more back bone to set the single hook!

Jeff

In other words: NO

[Fishes in trees]

You can throw any bait on any rod & reel combo if yu feel like it.  That being said, some combo's work better for certain baits than others.  I think you've gotten good advice here.   Me, I don't use a moderate tip for anything.   If I fished a hundred days or more per year and had finely honed reflexes, perhaps I might find a use for moderate tips.   Me, I like feeling what is on the end of the line asap, and the extra fast tip helps me do that .   

I would point out that different companies have different ideas about what is and what ain't extra-fast - comported to fast - compared to moderate, what have you.   For instance, the BPS Extreme rods I  have labeled "fast" are considerably different from the Fenwick AETOS rods that are labeled "extra fast".   It gets back to pick what you like, fish it for a while and if you don't like it try something different.

[Josh Smith]

Dad did all of that with a 5'6" Lew's MH pistol grip and an Ambassadeur 5000 with 4.7:1 gears back in the day.

[0119]

I prefer a moderate action for buzzbaits to help me from reacting too fast at the strike. My St.Croix labeled as a spinnerbait specific rod has a less than fast action.  I don't think you will be too handicapped by a moderate power/medium heavy action rod.

[Smelter96]

Moderates can be nice when using braid. I have a mod-fast I like for shallow cranks and spinnerbaits

[roadwarrior]

[Hogsticker]

There are certain tweener rods that would get the job done. A lot of rods labeled moderate fast or regular have a fastish tip and still retain a nice deeper flex in the blank under load. A true moderate cranking rod isn't gonna cut it for bladed, single hook baits. 

[IAY]

Yeah, I don't look at it from treble hook single hook kind of deal, but whether the bait is moving or stopped. Why do people use trailer hooks all of the time with spinnerbaits? It's is so that you can give the fish more time to swallow and hook it self, and isn't it what moderate taper is there to do?

 

[1BADAIR]

More money but 685cb lists most of those

http://dobynsrods.com/rod/685cb/

[Montanaro]

In my experience...any moving bait thats not soft plastic should have a slower action.

I hook up with waaay more fish wtih my mod action rod with spinnerbaits than i ever did with my fast or extra fast. 

[IndianaFinesse]

On 4/23/2016 at 8:50 AM, 00 mod said:

2 separate rods.  Things with a single hook ( spinner/chatter/buzz) that you mentioned need a faster tip and more back bone to set the single hook!

Jeff

^^This.

Those baits definitely call for two separate rods, just get two cheaper ones or buy one and save up for the other.  I would recommend getting a fast action rod for the chatterbaits and spinnerbaits and a moderate for treble hook baits.  And check out FFO, that way you can get two 200$ rods for 150 or less.

[WRB]

Shakespeare Ugly stik does a fairly good job with all your request..

Not my favorite but very popular all around bass rod.

Tom

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

On April 24, 2016 at 0:58 PM, IAY said:

Yeah, I don't look at it from treble hook single hook kind of deal, but whether the bait is moving or stopped. Why do people use trailer hooks all of the time with spinnerbaits? It's is so that you can give the fish more time to swallow and hook it self, and isn't it what moderate taper is there to do?

 

If you're getting short strikes on spinnerbaits change profile, blades or color. If the fish wants it you couldn't react fast enough to stop them.  

[Brikon]

Chatterbaits and Crankbaits ➡ Medium-Heavy/ Moderate Action 

Topwater and Jerkbaits ➡ Medium/Fast Action 

Spinnerbaits and Buzzbaits➡ Medium-Heavy/Fast Action 

 

[IAY]

11 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

If you're getting short strikes on spinnerbaits change profile, blades or color. If the fish wants it you couldn't react fast enough to stop them.  

I am not getting short strikes, because I am letting the fish actually grab the lure with moderate taper instead of ripping it away using fast tapered rods. Why is fast taper even necessarily for lures? Why does it matter if its treble hooked or single hooked? Can I get away with moderate tapered rods if I am using treble hooks with bottom contact baits for some reason? Fast taper to me is something that I actually need to set the hook on, so for stuff like bottom contact where I am letting the bait rest, and have to immediately pick up slacks and get a hook set on. You are never letting a spinner bait rest, and the fish are hitting it with full force trying to stop the lure, why do you need fast taper?

[WRB]

I don't know about everyone else but my first baitcasting rod was used for all my bass fishing lures. What we call a medium heavy or 3 power rod, 6 1/2' moderate fast can be used for a all around bass rod and works for all the lures the OP asked about. 

Today the MH fast action is considered the all around bass rod, however a fast action rod doesn't cast as easy as a moderate to moderate fast. IF the OP adds bottom bumping lures like jigs and worms then a higher density fast action rod would be an advantage, buy not essential.

Tom

 

[loudcherokee]

Thanks for the replies folks. I'm going to pickup a 7'4" medium heavy moderate rod for my cranks that is labeled a "cranking" rod. I'll start throwing my spinnerbaits, buzz baits, chatterbaits, etc on my 7'1" MH/Fast rod which is currently my jig/t-rig/bottom contact rod, and replacing it with a 7'1" MH/Xtra Fast for those baits.

LC