Vlad Val Yevdash Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 So im debating wether to get the sit on top kayak or sit in kayak. I like to stay dry but i like to fish standing up to. Im debating between these 2 kayaks. http://t.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3986135 http://t.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11279269 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted April 20, 2016 Super User Posted April 20, 2016 You are in a boat that is inches off the water so you will get wet. Not saying you will get soaked every time out but you will get wet for sure. For me, I will take a SOT any day of the week over a SINK. SOT self drains and are generally more stable. I also prefer the rigging options and flexibility a SOT can offer. I don't have experience with either of those kayaks so i can't speak to them specifically. 1 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted April 20, 2016 Super User Posted April 20, 2016 I would go with a SOT. If you shop around, you can find a better yak. Hit your local Craigslist or even look at yak stores for used models. austinkayak.com and paddleva.com sell used, also... Guy on another forum scored a huge win on the kayak I use, the Native Ultimate 12. He paid $250. They usually sell for $1000+ .... 1 Quote
Vlad Val Yevdash Posted April 20, 2016 Author Posted April 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Darren. said: I would go with a SOT. If you shop around, you can find a better yak. Hit your local Craigslist or even look at yak stores for used models. austinkayak.com and paddleva.com sell used, also... Guy on another forum scored a huge win on the kayak I use, the Native Ultimate 12. He paid $250. They usually sell for $1000+ .... Ive looked on craigslist near me and i havnt found anything good but those 2 field and stream kayaks are going to go on sale in may for around $350 which is why i plan onbuying it. Quote
Super User Darren. Posted April 20, 2016 Super User Posted April 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, Vlad Val Yevdash said: Ive looked on craigslist near me and i havnt found anything good but those 2 field and stream kayaks are going to go on sale in may for around $350 which is why i plan onbuying it. At that price, it's a good deal. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 20, 2016 Super User Posted April 20, 2016 I run both a sit on top, and a hybrid. I actually prefer the hybrid, a Wilderness Systems Commander 140. I can't say that either is dry - you pretty much get wet when you're that close to the water. Quote
GetBent Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 If you turtle in a sink- it's not gonna float lol. I like sot kayaks myself. Easier to get to my gear and move around to handle fish and whatever else needs room to move. Just plan on getting wet in a kayak, you're fooling yourself if you think you can without getting wet. Some kayaks will get you wet more than others. Just be sure to get a good seat so you're not sitting in the water. That can be easily done with a stadium cushion but the higher you are the more unstable you become. That's were the width of your kayak and your body type come into play. Lots of variables just plan on being wet and you'll be much happier. I love my kayak and getting wet doesn't bother me much. Quote
bralexander Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 Yeah, there is a reason why so many people use SOT for fishing! I have used both and a SOT has always been nicer for fishing. The only reason I would really consider a sit in is weight. I have seen some nice sit ins that are way lighter than comparable SOT. I just wish those hybrids were more inexpensive... I would buy one in a second if I could afford it. Bruce 1 Quote
Dye99 Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 Having owned and loved both I would choose a SOT. I love having my little Old Town Vapor angler for ponds, but a SOT boat is far better for what I do. Quote
Turtle135 Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 I started in a SINK back in 1991 as that was what was available in those days. Two unexpected and annoying issues were: 1. setting your paddle down on the top edge rails of the SINK makes noise and you will frequently have to grab your paddle when a gust of wind tries to sweep your paddle away (in a SOT the paddle sits quietly in your lap and is better anchored there) 2. bumping your spinning reel against the top edge rails of the SINK I my opinion a SOT is a much better platform for fishing than a traditional SINK. 1 Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted April 21, 2016 Super User Posted April 21, 2016 i had a sink for a couple years then sold that and bought a sot.... never once looked back nor regretted that move! if you're worried about getting wet though, it's going to happen, no way to avoid it really. Quote
Landis Carrier Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 SOT without question. And you might get a little wet but it's not like you're going to get soaked. Quote
Caliyak Posted April 22, 2016 Posted April 22, 2016 Go with the Talon sot. But, look at the perception pescador instead. A better boat, in my opinion, that you can get from Dicks. Quote
Vlad Val Yevdash Posted April 22, 2016 Author Posted April 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Caliyak said: Go with the Talon sot. But, look at the perception pescador instead. A better boat, in my opinion, that you can get from Dicks. Which one specifically would u recommend, and if they have it on sale in may ill get it. Quote
Caliyak Posted April 22, 2016 Posted April 22, 2016 10 hours ago, Vlad Val Yevdash said: Which one specifically would u recommend, and if they have it on sale in may ill get it. http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=62619606 This is the 10 footer but they have the 12. There is the angler version which is more. The perception pescadors are the same as the Wilderness System Tarpons. Perception also has the Ride version which is called Striker. Not the same but similar. I believe you can stand on the Striker. Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted April 22, 2016 Super User Posted April 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Caliyak said: http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=62619606 This is the 10 footer but they have the 12. There is the angler version which is more. The perception pescadors are the same as the Wilderness System Tarpons. I have a Wilderness Tarpon 100. It is, I believe, a 2014 model. However, it is decidedly NOT the same as the yak pictured. My Tarpon has: -sliding, adjustable foot pegs, as opposed to molded foot slots -slide tracks (4) - port and stbd; fwd and aft -dry hatch right in front of the seat -my seat has more adjustments - for back and bottom of thighs -webbed 'tool pockets' on either side of seat Not trying to be combative...just suggesting that the differences aren't slight Quote
bralexander Posted April 22, 2016 Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Caliyak said: http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=62619606 This is the 10 footer but they have the 12. There is the angler version which is more. The perception pescadors are the same as the Wilderness System Tarpons. Perception also has the Ride version which is called Striker. Not the same but similar. I believe you can stand on the Striker. I had this Pescador 10' a couple years ago. It is indeed a good quality boat, plenty stable and easy to maneuver. It is not as fast as some others but if you are not covering mega miles than it is no problem. I bought mine as a package, with a life vest and paddle, I think at Gander Mountain, on sale. This is one of the kayaks that I had for a little while and then wanted to try something else, and ended up selling on craigslist. The resale was very slightly below what I paid and I kept the paddle and vest to use on my next boat. These hold their value if you can find one on sale. I see it as I basically rented a kayak for 6 months for about $20. There was nothing wrong with the yak I just am crazy! Bruce As a side note- I very seriously considered the Striker, at the time when I bought the Pescador, but it has a unique seating area. Make sure you can see the Striker in person before purchase. 10 minutes ago, Choporoz said: I have a Wilderness Tarpon 100. It is, I believe, a 2014 model. However, it is decidedly NOT the same as the yak pictured. My Tarpon has: -sliding, adjustable foot pegs, as opposed to molded foot slots -slide tracks (4) - port and stbd; fwd and aft -dry hatch right in front of the seat -my seat has more adjustments - for back and bottom of thighs -webbed 'tool pockets' on either side of seat Not trying to be combative...just suggesting that the differences aren't slight Hey the Pescador is the older Tarpon. The new Tarpons are very different, but the old style is a well known and liked kayak. Bruce Edited April 22, 2016 by bralexander Forgot Quote
bralexander Posted April 22, 2016 Posted April 22, 2016 Hopefully this helps. Top is older Tarpon 100, bottom is Pescador 100 Bruce Quote
Allen Der Posted April 22, 2016 Posted April 22, 2016 the new pescador pro's look really nice, although the price is higher than the regular and close to tarpon range Quote
Vlad Val Yevdash Posted April 23, 2016 Author Posted April 23, 2016 6 hours ago, Caliyak said: http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=62619606 This is the 10 footer but they have the 12. There is the angler version which is more. The perception pescadors are the same as the Wilderness System Tarpons. Perception also has the Ride version which is called Striker. Not the same but similar. I believe you can stand on the Striker. Im thinking about getting the striker its a little bit longer and faster and you can stand on it. Quote
GLK Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 I bought the Striker 11.5 and really like it so far 1 Quote
Caliyak Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 20 hours ago, Vlad Val Yevdash said: Im thinking about getting the striker its a little bit longer and faster and you can stand on it. If the striker does not have the trax system, a great investment. You can add fish finder and rod holders to the trax. Limit the number of holes on the yak. Congrats and have fun. Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted April 23, 2016 Super User Posted April 23, 2016 On 4/22/2016 at 1:47 PM, Choporoz said: I have a Wilderness Tarpon 100. It is, I believe, a 2014 model. However, it is decidedly NOT the same as the yak pictured. My Tarpon has: -sliding, adjustable foot pegs, as opposed to molded foot slots -slide tracks (4) - port and stbd; fwd and aft -dry hatch right in front of the seat -my seat has more adjustments - for back and bottom of thighs -webbed 'tool pockets' on either side of seat Not trying to be combative...just suggesting that the differences aren't slight Perception Pescador was an older WS Tarpon. They bought the old mold. But Pescador was just redesigned. I have the older model Pescador 12. It's a great little SOT for the $$$. But you won't be standing in it. I'm clumsy so I just fish sitting. BTW, get a SOT. Quote
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