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• Published: April 20, 2016 at 01:50 p.m.

 

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For the second time in less than a week, an NFL team has made a bold move to potentially draft a franchise quarterback.

The Philadelphia Eagles acquired the No. 2 overall pick of the 2016 NFL Draft in a trade with the Cleveland Browns on Wednesday, the Eagles announced. Philadelphia will receive a 2017 fourth-round pick along with the No. 2 pick in exchange for five picks, including this year's and next year's first rounders. 

The deal puts Philadelphia in a prime position to select one of the two quarterbacks that every NFL Media draft analyst has projected as the first players set to be taken off the draft board in Chicago on April 28. Cal's Jared Goff and North Dakota State's Carson Wentz are expected to be the first two selections of the draft.

For the Eagles, the move to No. 2 gives executive vice president Howie Roseman and new coach Doug Pederson a promising opportunity to mold the direction of the franchise for years to come. Last year's offseason acquisition of Sam Bradford -- a former No. 1 overall pick -- did little to bolster the Eagles' offense in 2015. Until Tuesday, the Eagles were poised go with Bradford and former Kansas City Chiefs backup Chase Daniel as their quarterbacks for 2016.

The Eagles-Browns trade comes six days after the Los Angeles Rams pulled off a blockbuster deal with the Tennessee Titans to secure the draft's No. 1 overall pick.

Around The NFL will have more on the trade soon.

[Gundog]

Now it gets real in the AFC North. Browns got a lot of picks for a unproven qb pick. 

[iabass8]

Biggest news pre-draft yet...Norman is going to get PAID. Kudos to whoever lands one of the games best corners. There has to be more to the story here. If kuechly doesn't stay healthy, Carolina's defense is going to be a shell of itself. 

Panthers rescinded CB Josh Norman's franchise tag, making him a free agent.

"After a number of conversations with Josh’s agent, we realized that a long-term deal was not attainable," GM Dave Gettleman said in a statement. "We thank Josh for all his contributions and truly wish him well." The stunning announcement makes it clear the Panthers aren't just rescinding Norman's tag, but moving on altogether. There would almost certainly seem to be more than meets the eye here, as Norman was one of the league's best players in 2015, and would have made an affordable $13.952 million under the franchise tag. If there's not, and this is a simple matter of the Panthers moving on from a player they determined would no longer be with the team past 2016, Norman will become the subject of a feeding frenzy on the open market.

[A-Jay]

1 minute ago, iabass8 said:

Biggest news pre-draft yet...Norman is going to get PAID. Kudos to whoever lands one of the games best corners. There has to be more to the story here.

Panthers rescinded CB Josh Norman's franchise tag, making him a free agent.

"After a number of conversations with Josh’s agent, we realized that a long-term deal was not attainable," GM Dave Gettleman said in a statement. "We thank Josh for all his contributions and truly wish him well." The stunning announcement makes it clear the Panthers aren't just rescinding Norman's tag, but moving on altogether. There would almost certainly seem to be more than meets the eye here, as Norman was one of the league's best players in 2015, and would have made an affordable $13.952 million under the franchise tag. If there's not, and this is a simple matter of the Panthers moving on from a player they determined would no longer be with the team past 2016, Norman will become the subject of a feeding frenzy on the open market.

He should have signed the tender - $14 Mill guaranteed.  I think he & his camp are going to find out that his market is not what they think (or hoped) it was.

Real Contender teams do not have the cap space for the kind of money he wants - plenty of money available on Bottom dwellers though.

We'll see what happens.

A-Jay

[iabass8]

7 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

He should have signed the tender - $14 Mill guaranteed.  I think he & his camp are going to find out that his market is not what they think (or hoped) it was.

Real Contender teams do not have the cap space for the kind of money he wants - plenty of money available on Bottom dwellers though.

We'll see what happens.

A-Jay

I will strongly disagree. He's a very rare talent and just a flat out difference maker and will be paid as such.

Richard Sherman signed a 4 year/56 mil /w 40 mil guarantee at 12-14 a year. Norman will all but certainly exceed that with how effective he has been. There will be a lot of magic/restructuring/cuts made to land him. Ironically enough, the giants have 22 mil in cap space at the moment...wouldn't that be a hoot.

I'm calling it. Dudes going to JAX on a massive contract. 

[A-Jay]

12 minutes ago, iabass8 said:

I will strongly disagree. He's a very rare talent and just a flat out difference maker and will be paid as such.

Richard Sherman signed a 4 year/56 mil /w 40 mil guarantee at 12-14 a year. Norman will all but certainly exceed that with how effective he has been. There will be a lot of magic/restructuring/cuts made to land him. Ironically enough, the giants have 22 mil in cap space at the moment...wouldn't that be a hoot.

I'm calling it. Dudes going to JAX on a massive contract. 

Fair enough ~

 The 49ers have 50 mill - will he go for the $$$ or the chance to win ?

A-Jay

[iabass8]

10 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Fair enough ~

 The 49ers have 50 mill - will he go for the $$$ or the chance to win ?

A-Jay

History dictates he will chase the money. Maybe he's upset and will take similar franchise tag money for a division rival? That would be some drama going to ATL but they are strapped for cap space. In all likely hood he will have more than enough options and, personally, given the option of jax or SF, I'm going JAX 11 times out of 10. No way should he go to that dumpster fire SF team (or CLE). I really think JAX is on the right track to being a legit contender. . Adding Norman will make them 1-2 Offensive linemen and a pass rusher or two away from a real contender.

I can see INDY making a real run at him too.

It will be interesting to see how (and really WHY they just let him walk) this unfolds. 

 

[deaknh03]

6 hours ago, Gundog said:

Now it gets real in the AFC North. Browns got a lot of picks for a unproven qb pick. 

If you didnt know the team names this would sound like a steal of a trade...but its the browns so we know somehow they will screw it up.

[F14A-B]

I'm hearing rumors that Brady is going to Denver. What ya think deakn? 

[deaknh03]

5 hours ago, Alonerankin2 said:

I'm hearing rumors that Brady is going to Denver. What ya think deakn? 

I do believe that you heard that, yesterday was a holiday for you right?

[flyfisher]

I actually am one of the few Eagles fans who doesn't have a problem with the trade.  If Roseman feels the guy they want at QB is going to be there for 10+ years then the price paid isn't too much.  You can't win without a solid QB and we haven't had a great one since McNabb was traded.  This trade allows Wentz/Goff to sit at least one maybe even two years, depending on how Bradford does, and then come in and not be in a horrible situation.  

The eagles have the majority of their top players signed for a few years and their only starter that is at 30 is peters.  Could this trade be a complete bust, sure but your chances of drafting a top QB is exponentially increased the higher up they are chosen.  

All this being said, ask me again in three years and my answer may be a little different

[Gundog]

14 hours ago, flyfisher said:

I actually am one of the few Eagles fans who doesn't have a problem with the trade.  If Roseman feels the guy they want at QB is going to be there for 10+ years then the price paid isn't too much.  You can't win without a solid QB and we haven't had a great one since McNabb was traded.  This trade allows Wentz/Goff to sit at least one maybe even two years, depending on how Bradford does, and then come in and not be in a horrible situation.  

The eagles have the majority of their top players signed for a few years and their only starter that is at 30 is peters.  Could this trade be a complete bust, sure but your chances of drafting a top QB is exponentially increased the higher up they are chosen.  

All this being said, ask me again in three years and my answer may be a little different

Thats the first smart comment I heard today for the Eagles making that trade. Most of the radio shows I was listening to today bashed the move as giving away to much for to little. 

[S. Sass]

As far as the Eagles trade goes right now its a coin toss. As has been stated if that new QB turns out to be a bust I would not want to be a Eagle fan for the next 10 years as they try and recover. Of course on the slim chance the QB turns out to be a rare above average QB its all great.

So either they have huge balls risking the franchise for the next decade, or like the idea of trying to recover from a salary capped mess or they really have been praying and someone thinks they were answered. Any way you slice doesn't look good. Good luck I would not have bet the farm on a 20 something kid but I am a little more conservative. 

[flyfisher]

i see all the people saying it is going to take 5 years or 10 years if the QB is a bust.  Does anyone realize that we had one of the top rated passers for the last few weeks of last season, no matter who we draft?  This team is poised to handle a setback if this is a bust but we won't even know if they are a bust or not for 2-3 years minimum.  You also have to consider that Bradford is ticked at the move and now will do his best to prove that he should be the starter....which will up his trade value which may recoup some of the picks traded away.

Plenty of teams are bad for 10 years without making trades or drafting busts.  I am not too concerned with the rebuild time as we have been treading water at the QB position since McNabb was traded and without quality at the position, we will continue to tread water so might as well go for it....

[deaknh03]

4 hours ago, flyfisher said:

i see all the people saying it is going to take 5 years or 10 years if the QB is a bust.  Does anyone realize that we had one of the top rated passers for the last few weeks of last season, no matter who we draft?  This team is poised to handle a setback if this is a bust but we won't even know if they are a bust or not for 2-3 years minimum.  You also have to consider that Bradford is ticked at the move and now will do his best to prove that he should be the starter....which will up his trade value which may recoup some of the picks traded away.

Plenty of teams are bad for 10 years without making trades or drafting busts.  I am not too concerned with the rebuild time as we have been treading water at the QB position since McNabb was traded and without quality at the position, we will continue to tread water so might as well go for it....

i agree with you...take a chance because if you do not get that franchise qb, your chances of winning are almost zero. I don't understand why teams without a great qb don't make more deals like this to try and get one. If you get one, your ahead of the game, and if you don't, you still suck.

[Hurricane]

2 hours ago, deaknh03 said:

i agree with you...take a chance because if you do not get that franchise qb, your chances of winning are almost zero. I don't understand why teams without a great qb don't make more deals like this to try and get one. If you get one, your ahead of the game, and if you don't, you still suck.

Agree with this...

[flyfisher]

Norman got paid......and her people thought the skins were being wise and not going to spend a lot of money and build a champion from within....now all i hear is awesome signing and gotta use the money somewhere lol

the skins should have learned from the eagles that paying a CB is usually not a good move, especially one with only a good season or two

[Gundog]

15 million a year for Norman, 50 million guaranteed. That is a huge hit for the Redskins. Not sure he is worth it. Problem with the contract is the guaranteed money. If Norman doesn't work out he still gets the 50 mill. and the skins pay up. Meaning next year money is going to be tight so they may not be able to keep other players.

[S. Sass]

It is funny like a TV soap to see fans take sides. At this point all a Eagles fan can do is ride the boat. The deal is done.

Just my opinion the majority of millionairs understand odds and $ or have a well paid group of highly skilled gurus that do. And the majority are saying not us. 

Just a idea the reason all those other teams dont do it is because its slim chance of floating. Count how many have sold so much and bough a QB and won the SB with no team? It's a Team sport and no matter what qb he won't survive without some players around him.

I guess if they are looking to throw away a ton of money with a high probability of suck OK. I just think you can suck for a whole lot less $ and still have some picks to build. 

 Didn't the Eagles just try a coach that liked swinging for the fence? Isn't that kind a how you guys got this snowball rolling? 

[flyfisher]

guess you didn't read any previous posts......

[S. Sass]

3 hours ago, flyfisher said:

guess you didn't read any previous posts......

Yes I did read them, but it was posts like these below I read and part of my post was response to that train of thought. Guess you didnt read to much yourself. 

7 hours ago, deaknh03 said:

I don't understand why teams without a great qb don't make more deals like this

4 hours ago, LastCastChris said:

Agree with this...

 

 

[iabass8]

19 hours ago, S. Sass said:

It is funny like a TV soap to see fans take sides. At this point all a Eagles fan can do is ride the boat. The deal is done.

Just my opinion the majority of millionairs understand odds and $ or have a well paid group of highly skilled gurus that do. And the majority are saying not us. 

Just a idea the reason all those other teams dont do it is because its slim chance of floating. Count how many have sold so much and bough a QB and won the SB with no team? It's a Team sport and no matter what qb he won't survive without some players around him.

I guess if they are looking to throw away a ton of money with a high probability of suck OK. I just think you can suck for a whole lot less $ and still have some picks to build. 

 Didn't the Eagles just try a coach that liked swinging for the fence? Isn't that kind a how you guys got this snowball rolling? 

This is so jumbled and incoherent I'm not even sure what your point is. I think you're saying the Norman signing was a good gamble ? If so, I agree and wouldn't call it a gamble.

[Hurricane]

 

 

Tom Brady's Deflategate 4-Game Suspension Reinstated by US Court of Appeals

 

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A United States appeals court reinstated New England Patriotsquarterback Tom Brady's four-game suspension Monday, according to Reuters (via CNBC Now), which the NFLoriginally levied in the wake of the Deflategate scandal. 

The decision overturns U.S. District Court Judge Richard Berman's decision to throw out that suspension and forces that court to confirm it, per Andrew Brandt of ESPN.

Will Brinson of CBS Sports shared the key excerpt from that ruling:

While the NFL Players Association has maintained that Brady should simply be fined for an equipment infraction, per Mike Garafolo of Fox Sports, the court upheld commissioner Roger Goodell's right to levy additional punishments against the quarterback.

The Court did acknowledge that the commissioner's power was particularly broad, however, per Rand Getlin of the NFL Network:

As Pro Football Talk noted, Brady and company won't be able to return to Judge Berman on this issue: 

But if Brady wants to continue fighting, he has a few options, as Albert Breer of the NFL Network noted:

Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal believes that Brady and the NFLPA will fight to be granted a stay and will either appeal to a full Second Circuit Appeals Court or to the Supreme Court.

But Bill Polian of ESPN noted on SportsCenter on Monday morning that league sources believed that the decision of the Appeals Court would likely be the end of the road for this case, however, citing the more complex and lengthy appeals process that occurs in the higher courts.

Of course, Goodell always has the option to change the punishment himself, as Michael David Smith of Pro Football Talk noted:

If Brady isn't granted a stay or doesn't continue to fight, he'll miss the team's first four games of the season against the Arizona Cardinals (away), Miami Dolphins (home), Houston Texans (home) and Buffalo Bills (home). It would be the first season-opening game Brady would miss in 15 years, per ESPN Stats & Information, behind only Dan Marino (16), John Elway (16) and Brett Favre (15).

Jimmy Garoppolo will step in as the team's starter if Brady accepts his suspension. Garoppolo has appeared in 11 games since being a second-round pick in 2014, throwing for 188 yards and a touchdown.

As Ian Rapoport of NFL.com noted, Brady did prepare for this possibility:

It's certainly a major blow for Brady and the Patriots and, on a wider scale, for the NFLPA. It's another indication that the breadth of the commissioner's power will be a major point of contention when the next CBA is bargained.

And for a Patriots team that will be without a first-round pick on Thursday night at the NFL draft after losing it in the wake of Deflategate, it's another setback following the controversy over what the league deemed to be improperly deflated footballs.

 

 

 

 

[Gundog]

Didn't see the Brady thing coming. Only means Brady will be in better shape come the playoffs. I think the Pats could go 2-2 in the first 4 games. If he was suspended for the last 4 games of the regular season I think it would make more of a difference but the first 4 is not that big of a deal. 

[Hurricane]

12 minutes ago, Gundog said:

Didn't see the Brady thing coming. Only means Brady will be in better shape come the playoffs. I think the Pats could go 2-2 in the first 4 games. If he was suspended for the last 4 games of the regular season I think it would make more of a difference but the first 4 is not that big of a deal. 

They have enough talent to get by those 4 games... Good thing is for them is that September is months away. A lot of time to prepare..