Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted April 13, 2016 Global Moderator Posted April 13, 2016 10 hours ago, Poolshark said: I'm glad this thread came about when it did. It got me thinking about the inflated pricing on the old shimano reels. Today I decided to drive out to two small bait and tackle shops and snoop around their reel selection. I have found 2 new in box calcutta 50s, a new chronarch d and a new in box chronarch e7. All posted at their original price. he will cut me a deal if I buy a few of them at once. They've been sitting in his little shop for years. My point is that they are out there if you can find them. If those are Calcutta 50 B's I'd be all over those things. Quote
Grantman83 Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 Curados have a reputation for a reason. The g seems to be the only hiccup as of late but is still a solid reel. That being said, I have a citica E with e7 gears and carbontex. It's a tank, true to its reputation. I just purchased a d series Curado because they also have a rep for being tanks. Quote
davidsnookman Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 I bought a barely used mint condition curado 200e7 about a year ago. I paid $170 for it because of everyone talking about how great they were. I have to say it was the roughest reel under load I have ever used. Yet it was very smooth with no load on it. I had it professionally serviced($25)and they said it was in great condition inside. It was still rough under load. I have tried many of my friends curado 200e7's and they felt exactly the same as mine. I tried to get used to it, but it just ticked me off every time I used it. Eventually I sold it for $100 on craigslist because i wasn't using it anymore. I know I could have got more for it, but I just didn't care. I have owned every curado reel since the b series and still own 200b, castaic 200sf, and a curado 200i(my favorite out of all curados) and I just don't understand why everyone loves the e series. I don't want to offend anybody, but I just don't get the hype. Please someone confirm they are rough under load and I'm not crazy. Just my .02 cents. Thanks Dave 2 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted April 13, 2016 Global Moderator Posted April 13, 2016 32 minutes ago, davidsnookman said: I bought a barely used mint condition curado 200e7 about a year ago. I paid $170 for it because of everyone talking about how great they were. I have to say it was the roughest reel under load I have ever used. Yet it was very smooth with no load on it. I had it professionally serviced($25)and they said it was in great condition inside. It was still rough under load. I have tried many of my friends curado 200e7's and they felt exactly the same as mine. I tried to get used to it, but it just ticked me off every time I used it. Eventually I sold it for $100 on craigslist because i wasn't using it anymore. I know I could have got more for it, but I just didn't care. I have owned every curado reel since the b series and still own 200b, castaic 200sf, and a curado 200i(my favorite out of all curados) and I just don't understand why everyone loves the e series. I don't want to offend anybody, but I just don't get the hype. Please someone confirm they are rough under load and I'm not crazy. Just my .02 cents. Thanks Dave I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "rough under load"? Was it grinding or something? I have 3 or 4 E7s and 1 E5 and none of them are anything I'd consider rough while fighting a fish. Maybe it's something I've never paid attention to or noticed though. I agree on the I series though. If someone wanted to trade me my used E's for new I's I'd be down for that in a heartbeat. 1 Quote
davidsnookman Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 It feels like rough gears when using resistance baits like spinnerbaits, crankbaits, rattletraps, and fighting fish. It is very smooth with no resistance, but rough and noisy when tension is on the line. The reel performed fine, but it felt like really bad bearings. There was no noise on casting at all. The bearings were smooth, so it wasn't that. I have no clue what the reason it would do this. Not any of my other reels felt like that. Even my 22 year old 200b that has only serviced a couple times was way smoother than the 200e7, and it has its original bearings. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted April 13, 2016 Global Moderator Posted April 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, davidsnookman said: It feels like rough gears when using resistance baits like spinnerbaits, crankbaits, rattletraps, and fighting fish. It is very smooth with no resistance, but rough and noisy when tension is on the line. The reel performed fine, but it felt like really bad bearings. There was no noise on casting at all. The bearings were smooth, so it wasn't that. I have no clue what the reason it would do this. Not any of my other reels felt like that. Even my 22 year old 200b that has only serviced a couple times was way smoother than the 200e7, and it has its original bearings. That's odd. Like I said, maybe mine do it and I just don't notice but that sounds like something pretty significant that would be very noticeable. Mine are all supertuned though, maybe that made a difference. The old B's were and still are, one of the best workhorses out there. I still have 5 and recently acquired a very nice 100B that I was almost as excited about as I was my 70XG Curado. I regret every one of my B's that I've sold. Quote
Poolshark Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 6 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: If those are Calcutta 50 B's I'd be all over those things. They most certainly are. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted April 13, 2016 Global Moderator Posted April 13, 2016 1 minute ago, Poolshark said: They most certainly are. Nice, I'd be buying one of those if they're NIB. Always wanted one, but the ones I find now are either way overpriced or way more beat up than I'm willing to deal with. Quote
RB 77 Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 On 4/12/2016 at 7:54 PM, Rbm18 said: I just wanted to get some opinions on why people are going so crazy over these reels ? In great condition they go for over $200 . I have a couple of them and love them but I think there are others out there just as good if not better. I own 8 of the E series (50's, 200's, and 300's) and absolutely love them! Not sure if I would pay $200 for a used one unless it was a 300, but hey what ever floats someones boat. We might differ a little bit in the fact that I do believe they are one of if not the best reel in that price range. Quote
Nick S Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 11 hours ago, davidsnookman said: I bought a barely used mint condition curado 200e7 about a year ago. I paid $170 for it because of everyone talking about how great they were. I have to say it was the roughest reel under load I have ever used. Yet it was very smooth with no load on it. I had it professionally serviced($25)and they said it was in great condition inside. It was still rough under load. I have tried many of my friends curado 200e7's and they felt exactly the same as mine. I tried to get used to it, but it just ticked me off every time I used it. Eventually I sold it for $100 on craigslist because i wasn't using it anymore. I know I could have got more for it, but I just didn't care. I have owned every curado reel since the b series and still own 200b, castaic 200sf, and a curado 200i(my favorite out of all curados) and I just don't understand why everyone loves the e series. I don't want to offend anybody, but I just don't get the hype. Please someone confirm they are rough under load and I'm not crazy. Just my .02 cents. Thanks Dave you are NOT crazy! Every E series reel I've owned and almost every shimano reel I've owned has felt like this! The gears got really rough after little use. And like you everybody else's e series reels I tried felt the same way. Everybody I mentioned it to acted like they didn't know what I was talking about, and every time I mentioned it online I was bashed. A new set of gears will make it smooth again but it won't stay smooth. I've gotten rid of most of my shimano reels except two of the new I series which I haven't used all that much yet, if they get rough fast they're gone too. I also have two d series curados that are still nice and smooth. All my lews reels and my daiwa zillions have stayed smooth which is why I like them so much. I just sold 6 citica E's for 50 bucks each and was happy to get that for them. But just wait... I'm going to get bashed for saying this. Quote
Super User lmbfisherman Posted April 13, 2016 Super User Posted April 13, 2016 To each their own and their preference. I've never felt this grinding feeling and I own/owned Curado Bs all the way to Is. I also own two Chronarch Es, I actually find the opposite with the Shimanos, I feel they get better as they age. I owned other reels and I keep coming back to Shimano. 3 Quote
Nick S Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, lmbfisherman said: To each their own and their preference. I've never felt this grinding feeling and I own/owned Curado Bs all the way to Is. I also own two Chronarch Es, I actually find the opposite with the Shimanos, I feel they get better as they age. I owned other reels and I keep coming back to Shimano. It's not a grinding, It's rough gears. Quote
Rbm18 Posted April 13, 2016 Author Posted April 13, 2016 I'm not saying your wrong. I just haven't noticed anything like that either. Quote
dam0007 Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 The E Chronarch was the last Shimano reel to offer a full line up of sizes (200/201 50/51) and gear ratios (5:1, 6:1, 7:1) in lefty and righty. Quote
curtis9 Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 I've been wanting to pick up a Curado 50e to add to balance out the chronarch, core and scorpion, but have seen the high prices now so I haven't found one yet. I bought my chronarch 50e on clearance last year for $125. Quote
davidsnookman Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 8 hours ago, Nick S said: you are NOT crazy! Every E series reel I've owned and almost every shimano reel I've owned has felt like this! The gears got really rough after little use. And like you everybody else's e series reels I tried felt the same way. Everybody I mentioned it to acted like they didn't know what I was talking about, and every time I mentioned it online I was bashed. A new set of gears will make it smooth again but it won't stay smooth. I've gotten rid of most of my shimano reels except two of the new I series which I haven't used all that much yet, if they get rough fast they're gone too. I also have two d series curados that are still nice and smooth. All my lews reels and my daiwa zillions have stayed smooth which is why I like them so much. I just sold 6 citica E's for 50 bucks each and was happy to get that for them. But just wait... I'm going to get bashed for saying this. Thanks for agreeing with me on e series. I really wanted to love those reels because everything else was great on mine, but I just could not get over the roughness. And it is not a grinding feeling at all. If you do a search on the internet, you can find some people that said the same thing about their e series, but its hard to find. They tried new gears, removing the anti-reverse pawl(which I think makes it noisy),levelwind pawl, deep cleaning them, but the roughness always came back in a short period of time. Now all the other shimanos I've owned did not have that roughness even after heavy use. I've had my 200i for a year and half with no problems(except when I forget to oil the brake drum). It is very smooth, and powerful under load and it is an excellent caster. Nick use your i's they will become one of your favorite reels. Check out this video with the curado i's. 1 Quote
mc6524 Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 I can get the curado for $10.00 more and it has an adjustable brake force control Quote
Nick S Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 40 minutes ago, mc6524 said: I can get the curado for $10.00 more and it has an adjustable brake force control If you are referring to the curado I over the citica I they have the same breaking system. They are the same exact reel except the curado has anti rust spool bearings. Quote
Nick S Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 1 hour ago, davidsnookman said: Thanks for agreeing with me on e series. I really wanted to love those reels because everything else was great on mine, but I just could not get over the roughness. And it is not a grinding feeling at all. If you do a search on the internet, you can find some people that said the same thing about their e series, but its hard to find. They tried new gears, removing the anti-reverse pawl(which I think makes it noisy),levelwind pawl, deep cleaning them, but the roughness always came back in a short period of time. Now all the other shimanos I've owned did not have that roughness even after heavy use. I've had my 200i for a year and half with no problems(except when I forget to oil the brake drum). It is very smooth, and powerful under load and it is an excellent caster. Nick use your i's they will become one of your favorite reels. Check out this video with the curado i's. I replaced the gears in two of my citica E's and they were smooth again at first but after a few days on the water they went right back to feeling rough. I have a curado I and a citica I, hopefully they stay smooth like you said. Quote
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