Yo-Zuri Hybrid...is it worth it?

[Kevin22]

3 minutes ago, Tim Mueller said:

Recommend Yo-Zuri Hybrid 12lb on spinning reel?

No. 6-8.

 

[kickerfish1]

2 minutes ago, Tim Mueller said:

Recommend Yo-Zuri Hybrid 12lb on spinning reel?

I would advise against it unless you have a big high line capacity reel. If it is a 2500 size of smaller I would suggest 6 or 8# Yozuri Hybrid.

[BobP]

I like YH too.  It's fairly strong, fairly manageable, fairly priced.  Line companies often make two versions of copolymer line to suit baitcasting versus spinning reel users.  Sounds like Yozuri is now doing the same with the introduction of their Ultra Soft.  I prefer hard surface lines designed for baitcasting reels whenever I can get away with using them (not for spinning reels and not for cold weather use where they get excessive spool memory).

Many copolymer lines work just fine but you'll get a wide range of likes/dislikes from guys who are sensitive to particular line characteristics or who like/dislike a line just based on anecdotal evidence.  There is no line that is perfect for all circumstances, for all fishermen.  But lines like Yozuri Hybrid strike a good balance of characteristics for many guys.  There are also other "middle of the pack" copolymers that are, or have been, popular:  Trilene Big Game, Izorline XXX are examples.  You have to try a few and judge for yourself what's important/preferable.     

[Tim Mueller]

9 minutes ago, kickerfish1 said:

I would advise against it unless you have a big high line capacity reel. If it is a 2500 size of smaller I would suggest 6 or 8# Yozuri Hybrid.

Is there a way to tell on a Pflueger President 6940? I looked at the specs and the reel size says 40? Not sure on how to determine that?

[BassThumb]

19 hours ago, roadwarrior said:

No.  Go with the original formula it is much better.

 

Absolutely. The Ultra Soft is not very good line. The original is far better. Strangely, the US is really no softer than the original, it just gets all milky colored and weakens more quickly. 

[roadwarrior]

25 minutes ago, Tim Mueller said:

Recommend Yo-Zuri Hybrid 12lb on spinning reel?

No, it will jump off the spool.

[Tim Mueller]

30 minutes ago, roadwarrior said:

No, it will jump off the spool.

Awesome bait caster its. Thanks

[CarolinaBoy4Life]

Seriously contemplating switching all my setups to YH. May go with 10lb test for smaller diameter on baitcaster since the break strength is so high. Cheap line that is loved by a lot of people. Tried it on my buddies set up and honestly loved it. Been using P-Line but my previous roll has had memory issues even with line conditioner. 

[Brett's_daddy]

This would be going on a new Pflueger President Limited Edition size 30 spinning reel, what size would you recommend (6lb)?

[sarcazmo]

For the price how could it not be worth? :-)

[desmobob]

2 hours ago, Brett's_daddy said:

This would be going on a new Pflueger President Limited Edition size 30 spinning reel, what size would you recommend (6lb)?

I use 4 lb. on my light spinning set-ups.  I think it's around ten+ pounds actual breaking strength.  The 6 lb. also works nicely on spinning reels, but it's a bit larger diameter and only a pound or more actual breaking strength, IIRC.

Tight lines,

Bob

[fishwizzard]

I have a 600y spool of #6 and #8 headed to me right now.  My hope is to use the #6 on my L rods and the #8 on my ML and maybe a M.  I spent a few months fighting with other brands of floro and this is my last stab at using it.  If it doesn't work, then I have a few years supply of leader material on hand. 

On the advice of someone here, I already bought some line conditioner and currently have a 3000 sized reel spooled up with #6 Stren floro.  The line conditioner seems to have made a huge difference and I have been using it to good effect for the past week or so.  I have high hopes for the YZ when it arrives. 

[Kevin22]

7 hours ago, Bunnielab said:

I have a 600y spool of #6 and #8 headed to me right now.  My hope is to use the #6 on my L rods and the #8 on my ML and maybe a M.  I spent a few months fighting with other brands of floro and this is my last stab at using it.  If it doesn't work, then I have a few years supply of leader material on hand. 

On the advice of someone here, I already bought some line conditioner and currently have a 3000 sized reel spooled up with #6 Stren floro.  The line conditioner seems to have made a huge difference and I have been using it to good effect for the past week or so.  I have high hopes for the YZ when it arrives. 

 

Its not fluorocarbon. It will be more manageable than most fluoros, because its a hybrid line. With the conditioner you will have no problems at all. I use 4# on ultra lights with 1000 series reels and can fish with 1/32 crappie jigs all day long. 

I would NOT suggest it as a leader line, unless its all you have. Your 6# stren fluorocarbon would be a much better leader. 

[fishwizzard]

That is good to hear.  I have a 2000 and a 3000 I want to put the #8 on and a 1000 and 500 I want to try the #6 on.  I suspect it will be too thick for the 500 but I have been surprised a few times by SM when panfishing so I want a decently stout line on that little reel.  I have a dumb hangup about using too light a rod/reel and too heavy a line, but I am slowly coming to my senses. 

Why would you not recommend the YZ as a leader line?

[Kevin22]

There's no advantage over fluoro. Its not clear like fluoro, and its not as abrasion resistant (but very close!). Its probably stronger than most fluoros though, but that shouldn't matter with a leader. 

If you are using a leader you either need the near invisibility, or abrasion resistance. Otherwise there would be no need for a leader. Fluoro is clearer and has better abrasion resistance than co-poly. 

It would work, but in that case so would $0.98 walmart mono. 

[fishwizzard]

Fair points.  Right now everything is spooled with brightly colored braid so even a translucent leader would be better in that regard.  I am trying to get away from leaders in general, thus my push to find a workable floro/hybrid. I also fish a fair bit of saltwater and I have started buying reels that come with a spare spool, so I can switch back and froth from braid to floro depending on where and what I am fishing for. 

[rippin-lips]

It works just fine as a leader,trust me. Just remember you can't believe everything you read online. 

 

Edited for further explanation. 

I've been using yozuri in 6-12 as either a main line or a leader 'mainly leaders' since Walmart used to sell it in the plastic container however many years ago that was. I fish waters that are full of toothy critters and mussels. The line has definitely has plenty of abrasion resistance. A pickerel will slice right through 30lb braid. I've landed more pickerel on yozuri than I can count.  

[J Francho]

I'm struggling with the comments above.  It's better than fluoro, but it's not? 

34 minutes ago, rippin-lips said:

It works just fine as a leader,trust me. Just remember you can't believe everything you read online. 

^^^This, right here.^^^

[cottny27]

On 4/12/2016 at 1:28 PM, CarolinaBoy4Life said:

Seriously contemplating switching all my setups to YH. May go with 10lb test for smaller diameter on baitcaster since the break strength is so high. Cheap line that is loved by a lot of people. Tried it on my buddies set up and honestly loved it. Been using P-Line but my previous roll has had memory issues even with line conditioner. 

I'm using 10# and its plenty strong.  Its a little thicker .31mm than the 12# Seaguar AbrazX I have on a few setups.  I like it!  Only have about 4 trips on it though.  

[BassThumb]

It's my preferred leader material in water that's not crystal clear. It ties a very strong knot when linked with braided line. I use the 6 and 8 as leaders on spinning tackle all the time.

[Kevin22]

1 hour ago, rippin-lips said:

It works just fine as a leader,trust me. Just remember you can't believe everything you read online. 

Almost that exact quote was on the tonight show last week! "don't believe everything you read online, trust me" and it was a facebook post. 

1 hour ago, J Francho said:

I'm struggling with the comments above.  It's better than fluoro, but it's not? 

 

 

Sorry, fixed it. Didn't word it correctly. 

[J Francho]

Bottom line....whether it's "good" or "bad" is completely subjective.  I've given up on specific brand recommendations, unless the product is exceptional at a certain application.  Almost any line works fine as a leader, because nearly always, a heavier diameter is used than necessary.

[Kevin22]

2 hours ago, J Francho said:

Bottom line....whether it's "good" or "bad" is completely subjective.  I've given up on specific brand recommendations, unless the product is exceptional at a certain application.  Almost any line works fine as a leader, because nearly always, a heavier diameter is used than necessary.

Exactly right, which brings me back to my point that $0.98 shakespeare mono from walmart "would work" as a leader. Anything will work, but fluorocarbon is ideal. And if you have fluorocarbon, why use something else? That does make sense right? 

[J Francho]

No, fluoro is not ideal for every application.

[Kevin22]

23 minutes ago, J Francho said:

No, fluoro is not ideal for every application.

Go ahead Francho. Name me one instance where a braid to copoly leader is better than a braid to fluoro leader. I honest to God cannot think of one. Mono might be better than fluoro if you wanted to run braid/leader for a topwater. But the topic is on copoly lines (hybrid).