closed loop spinner baits.

[avidone1]

Nobody that I can find is making spinner baits that have a closed loop line tie.  The all use the U bend.  The ones that do use closed loops are small like strike king mini spins or beetle spins or of an ancient design using rubber skirts and other vintage materials.

So I guess if i'm going to have closed loop spinner baits, I'm going to have to make them myself.

Is there a company where I can buy the parts that I need to make these?

thanks

[avidone1]

5 hours ago, 00 mod said:

These are the ones I use!

http://www.megastrike.com/#!bigbassspinnerbait/c1wjv

Jeff

do you find you get better hook ups and they hold the hold the fish better than regular spinnerbaits?  After watching the icast video it looks like the body of the bait could run out of alignment with the blades.  do you find that to be a problem?

 

[S. Sass]

Manns sells the 3/8 oz with the closed loop. http://mannsbait.com/product/all-lures-and-baits/the-classic-spinnerbait-3-8-oz/

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Available with Colorado and Indiana blades in 1/4, 3/8 and 3/4 oz sizes. Willowleaf blades available in 3/8 oz size only.

I like and prefer the closed loop. All the horror stories I hear I never seem to have with them. 

[00 mod]

8 minutes ago, avidone1 said:

do you find you get better hook ups and they hold the hold the fish better than regular spinnerbaits?  After watching the icast video it looks like the body of the bait could run out of alignment with the blades.  do you find that to be a problem?

 

Much like all of the swinging highways/chatterbaits and such that are coming out now, the fish have a much harder tie throwing the bait.  I have not experienced any drop in hook up percentage. The only thing I have noticed is crawling then through trees/bushes they do tend to get hung up more.  But a closed loop is almost a requirement for spinnerbaits with me now  

Jeff

[buzzed bait]

i believe the war eagles with the trokar hook have a closed loop.

also saw i think it was gerald swindle giving a little tip on something he does that i thought was interesting...  he slides a split ring over the U and then ties to the U.  that keeps the line from sliding up or down and keeps the wire arm from overextending/bending from a big fish.  haven't tried that yet, but thought it was interesting!

[S. Sass]

Looks like the War Eagle Wake Bait series and the NEW Extreme Series from War Eagle Lures featuring the New Laser Trokar Hook are both  twist tie. I had only seen the R tie ones before. Glad to know this. Thanks buzzed bait for making me go look through their website. 

[Kevin22]

I make my own closed eye. I buy spinnerbaits with a long arm and "twist" it around the line loop, creating a closed eye. 

[00 mod]

9 hours ago, Kevin22 said:

I make my own closed eye. I buy spinnerbaits with a long arm and "twist" it around the line loop, creating a closed eye. 

I tried that once but had a big bass (7-8lb class) break the arm off during the fight. Luckily it jumped and shook the broken part off about 2 seconds after I had broken it off. I thought it had pulled off....

Jeff

[Chris at Tech]

Spotsticker baits also offers a closed-loop option on both the Mini-Me and standard spinnerbait versions

http://www.spotsticker.com/product-category/spinnerbaits/

[Kevin22]

7 hours ago, 00 mod said:

I tried that once but had a big bass (7-8lb class) break the arm off during the fight. Luckily it jumped and shook the broken part off about 2 seconds after I had broken it off. I thought it had pulled off....

Jeff

You had junk wire. Bending the wire will not cause it to break unless the wire is junk. How do you think we make inline spinners? Same wire, same bends, yet they hold up to 15# pike. There is no reason a quality spinnerbait will break by bending the wire around the tie. I have never had one fail. Spent many hours chasing pike with my bent spinnerbairs (bent so wire leader can be used), have never seen one break.

[buzzed bait]

On 4/8/2016 at 6:23 PM, S. Sass said:

Looks like the War Eagle Wake Bait series and the NEW Extreme Series from War Eagle Lures featuring the New Laser Trokar Hook are both  twist tie. I had only seen the R tie ones before. Glad to know this. Thanks buzzed bait for making me go look through their website. 

i think i snagged them at cabela's on sale and didn't even know they were closed loop until i got home and broke them out

[Jonas Lloyd Leonard]

Northland Tackle sells spinnerbaits with closed loops, they also sell magnum spinners for pike and muskie at a reasonable price and the wires are strong

[papajoe222]

Okay, I'll be the one to ask.  Why a closed loop? The only advantage I see is being able to attach it with a snap, or a leader. The open R bend allows the bait to do a 360 and still be able to run true. A big benefit when casting into the wind. If you have an orthodontist close by, get a pack of those little rubber bands they use on braces and slip one over the open line tie before tying on the bait. You have the best of both in one spinnerbait.

[J Francho]

The closed version work well for bigger baits made for pike and musky, where they are actually strong enough to yank the knot down the wire towards the head or the worse, the blades.  Sometimes the bait gets mutilated on the strike and hookset, causing this.  Not as much an issue with bass.

[FishDewd]

I've been attaching mine with a snap tied to my line... seems to work okay so far. I only do this cause I have one pole that I like to switch between larger cranks, jigs, chatterbaits, etc, and the snap makes it a lot easier.

[ClackerBuzz]

46 minutes ago, papajoe222 said:

Okay, I'll be the one to ask.  Why a closed loop? The only advantage I see is being able to attach it with a snap, or a leader. The open R bend allows the bait to do a 360 and still be able to run true. A big benefit when casting into the wind. If you have an orthodontist close by, get a pack of those little rubber bands they use on braces and slip one over the open line tie before tying on the bait. You have the best of both in one spinnerbait.

you might have nailed it with swivels.  when I wanted SB closed I just wrapped some braid around 10+ times and added a drop of superglue.  problem solved. in the end I didn't like closed loop or swivels b/c they pick up so many weeds and ruin a cast.  there was no turning back once i switched to using chatterbaits around weeds.

[jimmyjoe]

   Closed eye spinnerbaits: http://www.j-maclures.com/twisterseriesspinnerbaits.aspx

       https://www.ebay.com/itm/***-spinnerbaits-DOUBLE-DEEP-CUP-3-4-oz-BLACK-HOLOGRAM-spinner-bait-lure-/362245388408

[JustJames]

I did my own close loop with shrink tube but found it to be more tangle problem (line wrap around) especially with snap attached. No more using snap on spinnerbait and no more close loop for me. BTW I got some close loop spinnerbait but normally on one big Colorado blade type.

[burrows]

War eagle makes some good looking ones the closed eye always made sense.

 

[2tall79]

I use all R bends because I have lost too many fish when line has become pinched in the closed style.  On the rare occasions I need to use a snap or wire leader, I slip a snap ring over the lie tie of the r bend before tying.  This insures that the knot/swivel won't be going anywhere.

[Deeare]

Many easy options to make it a closed eye but I HIGHLY recommend the split ring option.  That's been hands down the best option for me. 

 

As mentioned above you can wrap braid and then cover with super glue, use a split ring,  use small elastics (the right size is tough to find and they don't last long) or wrap an old bread tie.   

 

 

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On 3/1/2018 at 2:07 PM, J Francho said:

The closed version work well for bigger baits made for pike and musky, where they are actually strong enough to yank the knot down the wire towards the head or the worse, the blades.  Sometimes the bait gets mutilated on the strike and hookset, causing this.  Not as much an issue with bass.

Yeah, every year I hook some pike and snakeheads that must spend a lot of time on the tackle making forum, cause they bend wire better than most folks...

[Fishingmickey]

The problem I've encountered in the past when fishing closed loop type spinner baits was when casting the bait would flip around the line and it would get caught in the pinch point where the wires are either twisted or looped. This would damage my line causing me to re-tie. Other then that the Mann's Hank Parker "classic" is one hell of a fish catching spinner bait.

FM