Super User iabass8 Posted March 27, 2016 Super User Posted March 27, 2016 19 minutes ago, Catt said: It's not rocket science! Covering water quickly in no way shape or form equates to catching fish! It also seems to me you think someone is taking a shot at your manhood because you keep bringing the subject, So yea Felicia lighten up! I'm not sure what you don't understand. I was of the impression you had some sort of a background in which a basic understanding of mathematics were a requirement. Maybe not. If person A and Person B are fishing identically except person B gets his bait back to the boat quicker. At the end of the day Person A and Person B have fished the exact same areas, the exact same way, /w the exact same bait but Person B is able to make more casts/pitches and fish more because his bait is getting back to him quicker. Pretty basic stuff. This is level 1 mathematics. Your Felicia reference is used incorrectly.
Super User Scott F Posted March 27, 2016 Super User Posted March 27, 2016 18 minutes ago, iabass8 said: I'm not sure what you don't understand. I was of the impression you had some sort of a background in which a basic understanding of mathematics were a requirement. Maybe not. If person A and Person B are fishing identically except person B gets his bait back to the boat quicker. At the end of the day Person A and Person B have fished the exact same areas, the exact same way, /w the exact same bait but Person B is able to make more casts/pitches and fish more because his bait is getting back to him quicker. Pretty basic stuff. This is level 1 mathematics. Your Felicia reference is used incorrectly. Are you automatically assuming that bass will always strike a faster moving bait more often then they will strike a slower moving bait? Come jerkbait fishing with me when the water is cold. You can make 10 times as many casts as I do, but you won't catch near as many smallmouth as I will.
Super User iabass8 Posted March 27, 2016 Super User Posted March 27, 2016 16 minutes ago, Scott F said: Are you automatically assuming that bass will always strike a faster moving bait more often then they will strike a slower moving bait? Come jerkbait fishing with me when the water is cold. You can make 10 times as many casts as I do, but you won't catch near as many smallmouth as I will. Jesus, ....how are both of you missing the point. I have no idea how I can make this any more clear. I stated I believe 3 times that if ALL THINGS WERE EQUAL. I'll say it agian, ALL THINGS EQUAL( this means that Person A and Person B are doing THE EXACT SAME THING ALL DAY), the person that is getting their bait back to them faster has the advantage because he gets to fish MORE WATER EVERY TIME. In no way shape or form am I saying or even insinuating that one angler is fishing faster than the other because that would mean that all things were not equal. Person A and Person B are doing the exact same thing throughout the day. Each and every time this happens Person B is catching and fishing the exact same fish and areas as Person A but Person B gets to fish more areas/water because he gets his bait back to him faster. 1
Super User Scott F Posted March 28, 2016 Super User Posted March 28, 2016 So the only difference is, when you give up on the cast, you'll rip the bait in faster, so you can make another cast before a guy with a slower reel. If you'd have said it that way in the first place, it would have saved a lot of time.
Super User iabass8 Posted March 28, 2016 Super User Posted March 28, 2016 24 minutes ago, Scott F said: So the only difference is, when you give up on the cast, you'll rip the bait in faster, so you can make another cast before a guy with a slower reel. If you'd have said it that way in the first place, it would have saved a lot of time. I did...3 different times. 1 hour ago, iabass8 said: . If person A and Person B are fishing identically except person B gets his bait back to the boat quicker. At the end of the day Person A and Person B have fished the exact same areas, the exact same way, /w the exact same bait but Person B is able to make more casts/pitches and fish more because his bait is getting back to him quicker. Pretty basic stuff. This is level 1 mathematics. 9 hours ago, iabass8 said: If you put the same rod/reel in a clone side by side and they do the exact same thing next to each other throughout the day, the person /w the faster gear ratio will cover more water easier /w a faster pick up. That's all he's implying...a faster gear ratio is a nice luxury. 4 hours ago, iabass8 said: If person A and Person B are soaking a bait slow in a small laydown for the same amount of time, my bait is getting back to me quicker and allowing me to move along the laydown and fish more spots throughout the day while having my bait in the water more than person B.....You both are fishing slow but if my bait is getting back to me quicker (regardless if it's just a few seconds, if you add that up to an 8 hour day, it's significant) I'm fishing more than you.
Florida Cracker2 Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 WOW!!! Tone down the testosterone guys. Cain't we just get along? hahaha Earlier today after reading the posts in this thread I decided to try some old-school techniques. So I grabbed a beetle-spin and walked out to the creek and right away hooked a nice bass. He got hung up in the peppertree branches and broke off. I was using a single ball bearing spinning reel. If it had 50 bearings, I would have landed him. NOT! I do like hi speed when your sneaking up to the bank and casting about 10 feet away and want to reel the lure fast with a rod lift and get the lure clear of the bank. And also after you loose a strike and want to reel in super fast and fire it back to the spot. Other than that, hi speed is just annoying after years of slow speed reel usage. Like I said earlier, slowing down is hard after so much time reeling a certain way. I have developed a reel once, jerk, reel method that just seems to really work with jerkbaits like mirror lures. Anyways...thats just my worthless .02.
Super User Jeff H Posted March 28, 2016 Super User Posted March 28, 2016 If you guys all got together one night in a conference room for a fish fry and fellowship, would you waste this much time on this trivial subject? LOL....this is fun to read though, I'll say that! 1
Florida Cracker2 Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 23 minutes ago, Jeff H said: If you guys all got together one night in a conference room for a fish fry and fellowship, would you waste this much time on this trivial subject? LOL....this is fun to read though, I'll say that! It would turn into a brawl...
Super User Jeff H Posted March 28, 2016 Super User Posted March 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, Florida Cracker2 said: It would turn into a brawl... Maybe, but I kinda doubt it. I bet this kind of conversation is non existent at the BR Road Trip events....but I could be wrong.
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted March 28, 2016 Super User Posted March 28, 2016 I been catchin bass slow for 39 yrs .once and a while i will speed up a lure to bring it over a snag then let it drop.i bought a 8.1 reel to see how fast a triwing buzzbait can move and be effective has nothing to do with covering lots of water or slack line.some ppl say unproductive water i for one have seen bass smash a spinnerbait or superfluke in 1 foot of water many times that looked unproductive.and i was pulling lure up to cast again.so now regardless of what it looks like i assume all water is productive 1
offsidewing Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 These threads offer the best kind of people watching... A part of me dies every time I watch my 68 year old dad try to sweep hook a jig in 25 feet of water with 5'6" MM rod and a Daiwa Gold Cup. His hand is just cranking away trying to take up the line like his grandson water skiing a Blue Gill back to the dock with a Lightning McQueen combo. When he misses the hookset He swears its his fault and not the gear. That was me until a couple years ago. We've fished the same glistening lake teaming w/ smallmouth for 30 years (50 for him). I've caught more fish in the last two years than I have my entire life after switching to modern gear. Now that I know better, I'm sucking up slack line and setting a hook with the flick of the wrist in an instant. Running cranks I still use a slower reel. Heck, I'll sling a Jointed Rebel on Zebco Omega. But when it comes to sucking up slack line ASAP, its a high IPT for me. Not sure how them old timers fished Senkos or the Ned Rig in the 60's, but it has to be easier with a higher IPT reel (spool size notwithstanding). *sarcasm font* Funny how different this converation changes when you talk golf clubs or computers in the work place...
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted March 28, 2016 Super User Posted March 28, 2016 I follow ppl on bassboats often.in my kayak im far from fast.most times if not all the time they are fishing fast boat moving fast and they are casting and reeling fast .and i catch fish they miss quite often.slow works for me but i see fast dont work for everyone.
GetJigginWithIt Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 On 3/26/2016 at 10:50 PM, S. Sass said: Sampo ball bearings, awesome!!! Love the old school baits etc. Old men never caught any fish. We just went hungry that night. What many of you kiddos don't know is we use to fish to put a meal on the table. We had outhouses for disposing of the waste to. Yeah modern stuff has come along and some of it is nice but it has made a bunch of ******* out of men these days too. Wow ha ha ha love it.
Super User .ghoti. Posted March 28, 2016 Super User Posted March 28, 2016 This beagn as an interesting thread, which then degenerated into a whizzing contest. All I have to say about that is: NOT IN MY TOWN!! 6
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