Tracker22 Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 I'm looking to add another rig to my arsenal just for top water. I previously had 12lb mono on my Lews speed spool and it cast like garbage. I switched it to fluoro and now it cast like a dream. Perhaps I just had some cheap mono on it? What is the best castable quality mono out there? Quote
JustinU1X Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 I have sunline supernatural on my topwater rod and it's pretty supple and casts great. It's relatively thinner than most monos too. I have 16lb on mine and its .33mm and breaks at about 18lb. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted March 23, 2016 Super User Posted March 23, 2016 Your mono must have been garbage. Most monos handle better than fluoro. At least that has been my experience with my limited use of fluoro. I've only tried about 3-4 kinds, and one of them came on a used reel. Besides Super Natural you can try Sufix Siege. I have good luck with it in 12# and 8#. Sufix Elite is a bit softer and thus handles slightly better. Most people use Elite on a spinning reel, AFAIK. I don't see many people suggesting it for b/c reels, but I've had the same line on my 50th Zillion for several years now. Trilene XL handles quite well. Big Game is a good line, but I personally feel it doesn't handle as well as Siege until you get it good and wet. Both coil after setting awhile, but Siege does't give me loose coils on the reel for the first few casts like Big Game does. You might consider a co-polymer or hybrid. McCoy and Silver Thread AN40 get good reviews. I use AN40 in 12# and 8#. Yo-Zuri is very well liked on this forum. Almost forgot. Last year a friend raved about Spider Wire Ultracast Ultimate Mono. Said it is the best mono he has ever used. He was a tournament fisherman so he has used quite a few lines. I'm currently trying some 10# on a reel. 1 Quote
0119 Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 15 minutes ago, new2BC4bass said: Your mono must have been garbage. Most monos handle better than fluoro. Same here. Something was wrong with your reel if it couldn't cast 12# mono. Even the cheapest Shakesphere bulk line should cast on a quality reel when the line is new. So, was your line new and undamaged? Don't judge mono on just that experience. I use cheap, Big Game from bulk, and change often. No problems casting extreme distances in the surf with 40+ year old Ambassadeurs. I think any mono will do your chore, don't overthink it, buy standard and respool every six months or so..... Quote
cottny27 Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Sunline and the Seaguar mono handle nice and are at the top of the tier. Both are thin so bump it up to 14# or more if you buy any. Smooth casting mono!! Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted March 23, 2016 Super User Posted March 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, cottny27 said: Both are thin so bump it up to 14# or more if you buy any. Smooth casting mono!! Why? I have a heck of a time breaking 12#. I've caught 35 pound fish on 8# line. Largemouth bass aren't notorious fighters. I can see heavier line if you fish in an area where abrasion resistance is important. 1 Quote
cottny27 Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 Because the 12# is like .280mm in both brands. I've seen and have had both snap like twigs on several trips. Just fishing weightless senkos. Bumped it up to 14# and 15# and haven't had anymore problems. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted March 24, 2016 Super User Posted March 24, 2016 You must have a wicked hookset. Or else there were nicks in the line. Majority of my MH rods have a 12# mono or co-polymer on them. Never snapped one yet...whether like a twig or a tree trunk. Too much stretch. Quote
0119 Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 I've caught huge saltwater fish on 12# mono, never had any snap like a twig and every cutoff I can trace back to my foolish carelessness forgetting to retie. While fishing I can sense a huge difference between them in the way they handle, especially with topwaters that the original poster is talking about. 14 is great for some topwater lures, the added stiffness helps avoid hanging up the hook and I think in my experience helps a popper pop better. 12 most definitely casts better. 1 Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted March 24, 2016 Super User Posted March 24, 2016 38 minutes ago, byram bassturd said: Pricey but defier 13# - 17# for me. This, The green spool of Sunline Shooter Defier. It casts like braid IMO. This stuff is as good as it gets and there is a reason why it is spendy. I have been so impressed with it I will be picking up another spool the next time I order. Quote
cottny27 Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 40 minutes ago, new2BC4bass said: You must have a wicked hookset. Or else there were nicks in the line. Majority of my MH rods have a 12# mono or co-polymer on them. Never snapped one yet...whether like a twig or a tree trunk. Too much stretch. Depends on the brand of 12# and the diameter. Most 12# is like .33-.35mm. The plane CXX 12# might as well be called 16# line it's thick stuff and breaks at 20lbs. I find it hard to believe you guys haven't snapped off 12# line on the hookset. Knots slip, line fails. The Seaguar and Sunline I'm referring to is super thin less than most 10# of other brands. Quote
Nick S Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 Original stren for mono Mccoy mean green for copolymer Quote
bigturtle Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 I like sunline supernatural and sufix elite Quote
Hogsticker Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 5 hours ago, kickerfish1 said: This, The green spool of Sunline Shooter Defier. It casts like braid IMO. This stuff is as good as it gets and there is a reason why it is spendy. I have been so impressed with it I will be picking up another spool the next time I order. If you want the best this is it. Defier is the Superman of monofilament. Quote
Caliyak Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 Trilene mono from Walmart or Amazon. Great stuff and cheap. The fish love it. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted March 24, 2016 Global Moderator Posted March 24, 2016 Big Game for me, but I will be trying the Seaguar Senshi for my jigs soon. I keep hearing good things about it and it's still cheaper than fluoro by a long shot, even though it's expensive for a mono. Quote
Super User Master Bait'r Posted March 24, 2016 Super User Posted March 24, 2016 CXX I love how stretchy it isn't. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 24, 2016 Super User Posted March 24, 2016 Sunline Defier Armilo #15 http://www.sunlineamerica.com/shooter-defier-armilo/ Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted March 24, 2016 Super User Posted March 24, 2016 big game just works Quote
Super User Raul Posted March 24, 2016 Super User Posted March 24, 2016 Big Game will reign supreme in the future as it has done for decades. Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted March 24, 2016 Super User Posted March 24, 2016 18 hours ago, kickerfish1 said: This, The green spool of Sunline Shooter Defier. It casts like braid IMO. This stuff is as good as it gets and there is a reason why it is spendy. I have been so impressed with it I will be picking up another spool the next time I order. Defier Armilo is made just for topwater applications. The regular Shooter Defier is for everything else. Great stuff. Quote
cottny27 Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, Dwight Hottle said: Defier Armilo is made just for topwater applications. The regular Shooter Defier is for everything else. Great stuff. It better be for that ridiculous price on mono. $22 for 165yds!!!! Quote
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