Tube jig mold help

[smallyslayer]

Does anyone know a tube jig mold that the hook is not eagle claw (perferably owner, mustad, or gamakatsu) and the hook is small enough for a 2.5 - 2.75 inch tube.

[Bluebasser86]

Haven't ever had a problem getting a Mustad to fit a mold that said it fit Eagle Claw, Owner either for that matter. 

If you haven't tried any of the new Eagle Claw black platinum line of hooks, I'd highly suggest it. Best value out there right now and what I use on almost all the heads I pour. It's the same people that make Trokar after all. 

[Molay1292]

If you are looking at the Do-It line of molds, many other hooks will work in place in of the 570 -575 hooks that they often recommend.

[smallyslayer]

7 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Haven't ever had a problem getting a Mustad to fit a mold that said it fit Eagle Claw, Owner either for that matter. 

If you haven't tried any of the new Eagle Claw black platinum line of hooks, I'd highly suggest it. Best value out there right now and what I use on almost all the heads I pour. It's the same people that make Trokar after all. 

 

2 minutes ago, Molay1292 said:

If you are looking at the Do-It line of molds, many other hooks will work in place in of the 570 -575 hooks that they often recommend.

what mustad hook would fit it a 32760 or 32762

7 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Haven't ever had a problem getting a Mustad to fit a mold that said it fit Eagle Claw, Owner either for that matter. 

If you haven't tried any of the new Eagle Claw black platinum line of hooks, I'd highly suggest it. Best value out there right now and what I use on almost all the heads I pour. It's the same people that make Trokar after all. 

 

2 minutes ago, Molay1292 said:

If you are looking at the Do-It line of molds, many other hooks will work in place in of the 570 -575 hooks that they often recommend.

what mustad hook would fit it a 32760 or 32762

[Bluebasser86]

What mold are you wanting to use? 

[Molay1292]

25 minutes ago, smallyslayer said:

 

what mustad hook would fit it a 32760 or 32762

 

what mustad hook would fit it a 32760 or 32762

I believe that we typically replace the 570 with a 32833 Black Nickel hook.  Many times you can also go 1 size over on the hooks if desired.

[Munkin]

Check out Barlows Tackle site as they usually will list the different brand hooks that will fit a mold.

 

Allen

[smalljaw67]

There are a number of different tube molds, the ones that take an Aberdeen style hook use an Eagle Claw 570, so you can use the Eagle Claw 500BP which is a sickle hook and just wicked sharp or you can use the Mustad 32746 or the 32756, or the Owner 5318. I never heard of a Mustad 32760 or 32762 so I can't help, but the Mustad 32833 won't fit without the mold being modified, for one the hook yey is shorter and the 2nd thing is it is a 2X strong hook so it is made with heavier wire. BTW, for heads that use the Eagle Claw 570, I use the L570BP which is the Eagle Claw Lazer Sharp model with the black platinum finish, I traded 1100 Mustad 32746 hook for 800 of the Eagle Claw L570BP, that hook is super sharp and strong for an Aberdeen style hook. I also like the 500BP lil nasty sickle hook and I use the Owner 5318 super needle point, and that is how much I like the new Eagle Claw Black Platinum series, I use it right along with the Owner hooks, it all depends on what I need the hook to do. So before you get down on Eagle Claw, you better take a closer look, the last 5 or 6 years their black platinum line has been gaining a lot of support as they are American made and very sharp and strong, they'll hold their own against any hook and have even surpassed Mustad in terms of quality, I've been making jigs and spinnerbaits for almost 20 years and I hated the old bronze Eagle Claws and I'm telling you, the new ones aren't those.

[Molay1292]

I have never had to modify a mold to use an 32833, they will not work in all instances but there are many molds that will accept them without modification, ball head jigs is one that I know of for sure.

[smalljaw67]

15 hours ago, Molay1292 said:

I have never had to modify a mold to use an 32833, they will not work in all instances but there are many molds that will accept them without modification, ball head jigs is one that I know of for sure.

Which ball head jig? I have 3 different ball head jig molds and none of them will take that hook. The only ones are the collarless steelhead ball jig molds, the STL-8S-A and the STL-8M-A, other than those two molds the rest need to be modified. The reason is the wire diameter of the hook and the shorter hook eye length, take a look at your molds and I'll bet those are the models of jig you have, any others from those two will need to be modified in order to fit the 32833 hook. Or perhaps you mean the Mustad 32746 or 32756 hook, not that hook is a direct replacement for the 570 but the 32833 is a 2X strong hook, the size 6 in the 32833 has the same diameter as a size 1 in a 570, 3 sizes difference to get to the same wire diameter. The 1/0 32833 has a thicker wire than a 4/0 in a 570, so no, they don't fit without modification, I think you either have the right molds or you are mistaking the 32746 or 32756 for the 32833.

[Molay1292]

3 hours ago, smalljaw67 said:

Which ball head jig? I have 3 different ball head jig molds and none of them will take that hook. The only ones are the collarless steelhead ball jig molds, the STL-8S-A and the STL-8M-A, other than those two molds the rest need to be modified. The reason is the wire diameter of the hook and the shorter hook eye length, take a look at your molds and I'll bet those are the models of jig you have, any others from those two will need to be modified in order to fit the 32833 hook. Or perhaps you mean the Mustad 32746 or 32756 hook, not that hook is a direct replacement for the 570 but the 32833 is a 2X strong hook, the size 6 in the 32833 has the same diameter as a size 1 in a 570, 3 sizes difference to get to the same wire diameter. The 1/0 32833 has a thicker wire than a 4/0 in a 570, so no, they don't fit without modification, I think you either have the right molds or you are mistaking the 32746 or 32756 for the 32833.

You may be correct, I do use a 2X bln hook in some of the molds but I am starting to think that it may be an owner.  I was going to check today, at any rate sorry if I gave anyone bad information.  I only pour small heads 1/16, 1/8, 3/32 and I remember an issue like this but seems like when I went to a 1 size over hook that it resolved at these weights.

Thanks for the info.

[Molay1292]

First let me apologize for the quality of the photo.  I found a few hooks in the house where I have used both a 570 and a black nickel hook in the same mold, I think all are 2x hooks except for the top left.   The top right does not have a picture of the 570 bronze hook, both are a 2x black nickel hook.  The picture does not do justice to the actual thickness difference in the wire used in the hooks but you may be able to see it.

Now I just need to find my notes on what hooks I actually used.

The top right hooks are very nice for the smaller 4" Kietech swimbaits, the screwlock really helps keep the bait in nice shape and I can catch multiple fish on the same bait.

 

 

[smallyslayer]

On March 22, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Bluebasser86 said:

What mold are you wanting to use? 

The do-it tapered tube jig mold 

On March 22, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Bluebasser86 said:

What mold are you wanting to use? 

The do-it tapered tube jig mold 

[Molay1292]

Found some notes and this is what I was able to come up with for replacement hooks for 570-575.  

Mustad Ultra point 32746 -756  as Smalljaw mentioned

Gami 114

Owner 5318

I think I have used the 5318 more than others because I can get them locally.

Good luck

 

[smalljaw67]

17 hours ago, Molay1292 said:

 

 

 

17 hours ago, smallyslayer said:

The do-it tapered tube jig mold 

The do-it tapered tube jig mold 

 

[smalljaw67]

So you know, the tapered tube jig has 2 molds that use different hooks, there is one that calls for the Eagle Claw 570 which is a 90 degree Aberdeen style hook, and there is a mold that calls for the Eagle Claw 410 which is a 60 degree heavy wire hook. Since you didn't specify which one of the tapered tube jig molds you are going to use, I'll give you alternatives for each. For the 570, you can use the Eagle Claw 570 Black Platinum, the 500BP lil nasty sickle, the Matzuo 9014, Mustad 32746 and 32756, Owner 5318 and the Gamakatsu 114, there are more but these are the most common. For the mold that uses the 410 you can use the Eagle Claw 786BP or the 111BP, the Mustad 32786, Gamakatsu 291, and the Owner 5304 deep throat. There are others but this is a list of the best of them, good luck with what you want to do. One last thing, if you aren't sure which mold you are getting, think of the tackle you use to fish your tubes with, if you use casting rods with 20lb braid and a leader then get the 60 degree heavy hook version, if you fish spinning rods with light line, 10lb braid with 6 or 8lb fluorocarbon leaders of straight fluorocarbon or mono in the 6lb to 8lb class, then the Aberdeen model will be better.

[Kevin22]

I'll just hop in and say I stick a 1/8-1/4oz walleye round head jig in my 2.75 and 3" tubes. No need for a special tube head. 

[Munkin]

473219

TUBE-TX

I have the Tapered Tube -TX mold and use the Mustad 32729 BLN hooks in size 1/0 to 3/0 with it. Actually every 60 degree hook I have tried with this mold has worked.

 

Allen