MemphisFF Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 Just wondering what you guys think of em haven't fished with them yet, it's the bps answer to the keitech I suppose.. Anyways got the small 3" for my swim jigs.. Should work.. Any thoughts on these... Quote
primetime Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 I fish them all the time...Mostly the 3.8 and 4.8....They work just fine for me, I have some Keitechs, Kalins Sizmic shad, Kicker fish, Bass Assassin and at the end of the day, they all work fine...The Keitechs are probably the best due to texture and unique scent if you like to fish them really slow and let them soak, but if casting and reeling, on a swim jig, under spin, weighted Swimbait hook...I like the Speed shad just fine. I like to fish fast, as fast as possible, and for me, I rarely let a Swimbait sit on the bottom for more than a second or two, but for the price, I would say Speed shad all day over Kalins, and they are identical to a few other brands, or were, I have not purchased them in a while after I picked up a bunch which will probably last forever....I like the speed shad since it is thinner and comes through weeds better and can take a smaller hook than the Kalin's Sizmic and Fat Impacts...Megastrike makes a squid scent now, so you can add that and have a Keitech if you don't have a place to buy the locally...BPS added some new sizes this year, I just saw the new culprit swimbait and if I needed more soft baits I would love to buy a pack but they are expensive but look different than anything else on the market..Culprit is killing it again, they slowed down for a while but they are making some great baits..That new swimbait looks Dynamite... 1 Quote
aj88kc Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 I used the speed shad for the first time today. I was throwing the 3.8 k's magic color t-rigged with a 1/4 oz weight. I caught 3 today in 4 hours on a pretty tough bite. The action was good on a steady retrieve. Even when I slowed it down the tail was still kicking pretty good. I am not sure about the keitechs but after 2 fish the speed shad was pretty much destroyed. I just cut the tip off and rigged it upside down and it still had the same action. Caught the 3rd one with it rigged like that. I was impressed with the bait itself but the durability leaves something to be desired. I will buy more though 1 Quote
primetime Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 1 hour ago, aj88kc said: I used the speed shad for the first time today. I was throwing the 3.8 k's magic color t-rigged with a 1/4 oz weight. I caught 3 today in 4 hours on a pretty tough bite. The action was good on a steady retrieve. Even when I slowed it down the tail was still kicking pretty good. I am not sure about the keitechs but after 2 fish the speed shad was pretty much destroyed. I just cut the tip off and rigged it upside down and it still had the same action. Caught the 3rd one with it rigged like that. I was impressed with the bait itself but the durability leaves something to be desired. I will buy more though Keitechs are even more fragile, but that is why they are so good...Kalins are the most solid and durable imo.....Texture is different on all batches but I can get twice the fish on a Kalin's, but the 4.8 is much bigger than the speed shad and is fatter..For the price the speed shad is hard to beat....They all get torn up since Fish hit them so hard. 1 Quote
Airman4754 Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 I put 5" Keitech, Speed Shad, and the Kicker Fish version on a big zip-loc over the winter. Earlier this month I got them out and couldn't tell any difference in any way. I don't know which is which. I think they're all pretty good at what they do. 1 Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted March 16, 2016 Super User Posted March 16, 2016 I like them. I usually take them with me when I'm fun fishing, and then save the Keitechs for tournaments. 3 Quote
tbone1993 Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 Got a pack to try them out but didn't use them as I was given a big ol' bag of lake fork magic shads. That being said does anyone have tips to give me more confidence with a paddle tail on a weighted hook. I fish them 90% of the time on a swim jig or chatterbait and never gained confidence throwing them bare. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted March 16, 2016 Global Moderator Posted March 16, 2016 I fished them on an A rig a couple weeks ago and did pretty good. The biggest plus versus a Keitech was I used the same 5 the entire time where I'd probably have gone through at least 2 bags of Keitechs. I'll be giving them their first test run on a plain jighead this Friday. Quote
Scarborough817 Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 i use the 3.8" for my jig and chatterbait trailers and i probably wont stop using them i normally add scent anyway so i'm not worried about that. plus i like the durability of them of course you sacrifice the movement at slow speeds for that but i think it's worth it. there is also the plus that they were on sale during the classic i picked up 4 packs for 18 where 4 packs of keitechs would have run me 45 or 50 2 Quote
primetime Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 11 hours ago, tbone1993 said: Got a pack to try them out but didn't use them as I was given a big ol' bag of lake fork magic shads. That being said does anyone have tips to give me more confidence with a paddle tail on a weighted hook. I fish them 90% of the time on a swim jig or chatterbait and never gained confidence throwing them bare. I am actually the opposite, I like to fish the larger paddle tails alone or sometimes I put a willow blade on the shank of the hook...I tend to fish swimbaits with a boot tail in grass much like you would fish a toad. I buzz it on top, wake it, but usually a mix of both works best..Often if you work it in spurts to get a buzz going for a few feet, kill it, let it sink, then start working it slowly up to the surface or keep experimenting until you get bit...Some days they won't come to the surface to hit a bait, some days they want it just out of view like a spinnerbait or swim JIg, and if fishing around grass, the key is the weight...More weight creates more thump, but you also have to reel faster obviously to keep it high in the water column...The most weedless way to fish them and I have used the LF Magic shad boot tails and I remember they needed a larger hook than most baits, I think I needed a 6/0 Weighted EWG swimbait hook like the Owner Beast locks..I find 1/8 is usually plenty of weight, but i prefer to put a bullet weight in front since it comes through grass nicely and if you slip a bobber stop in front of the weight for some reason it helps keep junk off the bait. You can change the action of the bait by using pinch weights on a large EWG hook, if you place it toward the back you get a different action than the front and some days they want a bait that is not too aggressive. I would start out with a 6/0 maybe 7/0 hook on same rod you throw Chatterbaits/Swim Jigs on, and often you don't need weight if you want to get a super slow fall and keep it on top of weeds after killing it. They used to sell the Magic Shads rigged in a pack of one bait and they came with a ballhead exposed jighead that i believe was 1/16 or 1/8, much smaller shank than you would expect and I always try to use an exposed hook if possible but in Florida I rarely get that chance but the hook acts like a keel...J WIll Jig Heads, or just pick the jighead that you use on your favorite swim jig, I also add a skirt for flare and contrast in stained water to swimbaits on hooks, sometimes you get bigger bites but really it is a pretty simple technique that works really well. It's Kind of like Punching...Some days a punch skirt just won't get bit, but a straight plastic will and vise versa...I prefer a weighted swimbait alone more than on a swim jig..I prefer craw and grub trailers on swim jigs and the Lake Fork Minnow is a big soft bait, but it puts off a ton of thump...Hope that helps. That is a great bait, I need to use it more but I usually just grab a boot tailed swimbait based on size and color and so far this year I am on the smaller baits but LFT is good stuff....Good luck. I a sure other's have some tricks.... 1 Quote
tbone1993 Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 5 hours ago, primetime said: I am actually the opposite, I like to fish the larger paddle tails alone or sometimes I put a willow blade on the shank of the hook...I tend to fish swimbaits with a boot tail in grass much like you would fish a toad. I buzz it on top, wake it, but usually a mix of both works best..Often if you work it in spurts to get a buzz going for a few feet, kill it, let it sink, then start working it slowly up to the surface or keep experimenting until you get bit...Some days they won't come to the surface to hit a bait, some days they want it just out of view like a spinnerbait or swim JIg, and if fishing around grass, the key is the weight...More weight creates more thump, but you also have to reel faster obviously to keep it high in the water column...The most weedless way to fish them and I have used the LF Magic shad boot tails and I remember they needed a larger hook than most baits, I think I needed a 6/0 Weighted EWG swimbait hook like the Owner Beast locks..I find 1/8 is usually plenty of weight, but i prefer to put a bullet weight in front since it comes through grass nicely and if you slip a bobber stop in front of the weight for some reason it helps keep junk off the bait. You can change the action of the bait by using pinch weights on a large EWG hook, if you place it toward the back you get a different action than the front and some days they want a bait that is not too aggressive. I would start out with a 6/0 maybe 7/0 hook on same rod you throw Chatterbaits/Swim Jigs on, and often you don't need weight if you want to get a super slow fall and keep it on top of weeds after killing it. They used to sell the Magic Shads rigged in a pack of one bait and they came with a ballhead exposed jighead that i believe was 1/16 or 1/8, much smaller shank than you would expect and I always try to use an exposed hook if possible but in Florida I rarely get that chance but the hook acts like a keel...J WIll Jig Heads, or just pick the jighead that you use on your favorite swim jig, I also add a skirt for flare and contrast in stained water to swimbaits on hooks, sometimes you get bigger bites but really it is a pretty simple technique that works really well. It's Kind of like Punching...Some days a punch skirt just won't get bit, but a straight plastic will and vise versa...I prefer a weighted swimbait alone more than on a swim jig..I prefer craw and grub trailers on swim jigs and the Lake Fork Minnow is a big soft bait, but it puts off a ton of thump...Hope that helps. That is a great bait, I need to use it more but I usually just grab a boot tailed swimbait based on size and color and so far this year I am on the smaller baits but LFT is good stuff....Good luck. I a sure other's have some tricks.... Yeah that helps a bunch. I always felt like running them weightless put them too high in the water column. So hard to put down a swim jig when they're crushing it. Its funny how I have confidence in a huddleston grass minnow but not a plain old keitech/lft/bass pro on a hook. 1 Quote
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