Shad_Master Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Hi guys - I am not a frequent visitor to this thread, but would like to try my hand at making some jigs and "chatter baits". I plan to order some unpainted jig heads from Barlow's, but the old guy who is going to be showing me the ropes says that "cooking" the jig heads with fiberguards is a problem. We noticed that Barlow's sells a "Heat Resistant Tube" that can be placed over the fiberguard. Do these work? Or is there another way to powder paint jig heads with fiberguards already installed? Quote
FIAB Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 Don't waste your time with them. I bought some about a month ago and hate them. The best bet is to buy jigs with the weed-guards not installed and glue them in after your done painting. The problem I had with the tubes is when you pull the jigs out of the oven they are hot as hell and you have to take them off before you dip the jig. As soon as you take them off the guards will still flare a little. The real problem is when you put them back on to bake the paint back on the jig. Every jig I did the paint cracked where the tube was touching the jig head. If you must buy jigs with weed-guards installed the best way I have found is to tie the weed-guard up at the top and in the middle with thread. This will keep them from flaring out. Don't tie them too tight or they will leave an indention in the weed-guard. Then never get the oven above 250. The problem with this method is it is very time consuming and 250 degree oven will not produce the best paint finish for your jigs. Be sure to post some pics of your finished products when you get them done. Quote
Shad_Master Posted January 4, 2011 Author Posted January 4, 2011 Thanks guys - this is kind of a first time venture and I am not expecting perfection - Bone Head, where is a good source for jigs without the fiber guard, seems like everything in Barlow's already has the fiber guard in place. If this goes well, I might look into getting some molds eventually, but for now I just want to dabble a little. Quote
FIAB Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 Shad_Master, You can send GMAN a PM. He has a good product and pricing. Also lure parts online you can custom order jigs from them.......they have a 25 piece min. If you are just starting you may not want that many of one size jig. I would send GMAN a PM and see what he can do for ya. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 I'm with Bone Head Jig on this one. Dont waste your time or money. All you need is a 1/8" pin, drill bit, etc. Just something to fill the weedgaurd hole and keep out the paint. Very easy, simple, and fast. Quote
cadman Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 I'm also with everyone else. I glue my weedguards after baking. For painting pins I had nylon pins made. They go into the weedguard hole, paint jig, pull out nylon pins, and you never ever have to drill weedguard holes again. Simple, neat, clean and fast. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 For painting pins I had nylon pins made. They go into the weedguard hole, paint jig, pull out nylon pins, and you never ever have to drill weedguard holes again. Simple, neat, clean and fast. I've always used the base hole pins that you mold them with. Nylon would be neat. Quote
cadman Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 For painting pins I had nylon pins made. They go into the weedguard hole, paint jig, pull out nylon pins, and you never ever have to drill weedguard holes again. Simple, neat, clean and fast. I've always used the base hole pins that you mold them with. Nylon would be neat. The reason I went with nylon pins is twofold. #1 I use them for painting and #2 I use them for pouring. I got tired of trying to pull out metal pins out of jigs. Sometimes you have to really twist the metal pin out of the jigs weedguard hole after it is poured to get them out . Many times in doing this I would stab myself with the hook or if I used pliers the pliers would catch the hook tip possibly dulling it. So I said enough is enough and don't use the metal pull pins anymore. In painting I stick them in the weedguard hole prior to painting, heat jig with heat gun, put jig in powder paint, immediately pull out pull pin, and rack jig for baking. I don't have to drill ou any more weedguard holes, because paint will never get in there, and with a clean hole the weedguard fits in better, glue holds it better and I save a lot of time by not drilling out paint. I have never and will never go back to metal pins. These are easy to use, easy to take out and they can be used forever unless you lose them. I have 50 for pouring in jigs and 50 for painting. The ones for the pouring have to be kinked a little so they will hold in the mold cavity. But this is no big deal. On the ones for painting, when the pins are cool, I bend them slightly back and forth and the paint cracks and falls off ready for next times use. Just can't beat this system. Too bad I didn't know about this 6 years ago. Quote
cadman Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Where can you get nylon pins? I had them custom made and I have them. PM sent. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Thats what I was thinking Cadman. I bet the slide in and out easier then the metal ones. Quote
cadman Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Thats what I was thinking Cadman. I bet the slide in and out easier then the metal ones. GMAN, Like I mentined above I would never go back to metal pins. It's easy for painting, but it's so much easier for pouring, especially when the pins stick to the lead. Now I don't have to fight with the pins anymore. Quote
MattyIce Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Pretty easy solution... I use regular joe schmo weedguards. I pour my lead with the weedguard in the mold then when i bake them I wrap tin foil around the weed guard from about half way up to the top. works like a charm! you can even twist the foil on and the weed guards will take the twist affect or you can fan ect. Play with it and have fun. Cheers Matt Quote
FIAB Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 MattyIce, What is the highest temperature that you bake your jigs? Quote
MattyIce Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 I bake at 350* for 20 mins then dip in powder paint and then bake 20 more. Make sure you have a few wraps of foil around the weed guards. if you twist the top of the foil then so will the weed guards... so you can just fold over if you dont want the twist or fanning. I personally like to twist the top and get a twist in the guards. Quote
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