EllisJuan Posted March 12, 2016 Posted March 12, 2016 I almost always use braid on all my setups with the occasional mono being the exception. I am putting together a new Crankbait setup and want to give fluorocarbon a shot. The times I ha e tried it, the memory drove me crazy. I am looking for the absolute most braid like performing flourocarbon. I Have heard good things about Tatsu with KVD conditioner. Would this be the best? Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted March 12, 2016 BassResource.com Administrator Posted March 12, 2016 I've used several fluorocarbon, and Tatsu is head-and-shoulders above all of them. It performs much like a co-polymer in relation to suppleness and castability. It really has very little memory, if at all. 1 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 12, 2016 Super User Posted March 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Glenn said: I've used several fluorocarbon, and Tatsu is head-and-shoulders above all of them. It performs much like a co-polymer in relation to suppleness and castability. It really has very little memory, if at all. This is by far the best line I have ever fished. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted March 12, 2016 Super User Posted March 12, 2016 2 hours ago, EllisJuan said: Tatsu it is...I was thinking 12#? 12# would work for most things but we have no idea what reel you are spooling it on and what apps you will use it for. My guess would be a 13 Met and something for bottom contact? I have used 15, 12, and 6# Tatsu before. The 6# is what I finesse fish with on my 1000 size spinning rigs. The 15 and 12 are good for all bottom contact apps and weightless plastics apps. If line diameter is of concern make sure you take that into account as the line is much thinner in diameter than say 12# mono. Quote
EllisJuan Posted March 12, 2016 Author Posted March 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, kickerfish1 said: 12# would work for most things but we have no idea what reel you are spooling it on and what apps you will use it for. My guess would be a 13 Met and something for bottom contact? I have used 15, 12, and 6# Tatsu before. The 6# is what I finesse fish with on my 1000 size spinning rigs. The 15 and 12 are good for all bottom contact apps and weightless plastics apps. If line diameter is of concern make sure you take that into account as the line is much thinner in diameter than say 12# mono. Sorry. It will be going on a Conquest 101 on a GLX 785 CBR. I will be using it for shallow cranks, square bills, and lipless cranks. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted March 12, 2016 Super User Posted March 12, 2016 I think you would be fine with 12# for that reel. Personally I just don't know if the Tatsu benefits would be that noticeable for reaction baits but if money isn't an issue than go for it. For those apps I would use Sunline Defier any day, every day. It has less memory than Tatsu is the best reaction bait line I have used for casting distance, limpness, and memory. It is a mono, and an expensive one but well worth it. Quote
Fishin' Fool Posted March 13, 2016 Posted March 13, 2016 4 hours ago, EllisJuan said: I almost always use braid on all my setups with the occasional mono being the exception. I am putting together a new Crankbait setup and want to give fluorocarbon a shot. The times I ha e tried it, the memory drove me crazy. I am looking for the absolute most braid like performing flourocarbon. I Have heard good things about Tatsu with KVD conditioner. Would this be the best? Have you tried a copolymer yet? I think that is where I'm going to with my reaction baits. Doing the reviews it looks like Yozuri hybrid is the one you want. Quote
EllisJuan Posted March 13, 2016 Author Posted March 13, 2016 56 minutes ago, Fishin' Fool said: Have you tried a copolymer yet? I think that is where I'm going to with my reaction baits. Doing the reviews it looks like Yozuri hybrid is the one you want. I haven't tried copolymer. I have heard great things about Yuzutu hybrid...I'm going to put it on my list to try. I went ahead and ordered a spool of Tatsu 12#. It may be a bit before I can try it, my rod is on back order. 1 Quote
Hogsticker Posted March 13, 2016 Posted March 13, 2016 7 hours ago, kickerfish1 said: I think you would be fine with 12# for that reel. Personally I just don't know if the Tatsu benefits would be that noticeable for reaction baits but if money isn't an issue than go for it. For those apps I would use Sunline Defier any day, every day. It has less memory than Tatsu is the best reaction bait line I have used for casting distance, limpness, and memory. It is a mono, and an expensive one but well worth it. Couldn't agree more. Invizx has less memory than Tatsu. It's cheaper and has more stretch than most monos. Tatsu is complete overkill for cranking, and if you're going to spend that much get original Defier. It's the most trouble free line ever made, plus you get twice the amount for a few bucks less. Quote
rangerjockey Posted March 13, 2016 Posted March 13, 2016 I think Tatsu is as good as it gets but Its wasted as a crankbait line.. I use 8 and 10 lb. Invisx for everything from wiggle warts to DD22's, I never use any kind of conditioner and it handles fine..It's got a bit more stretch than Abrazx or Sniper.. I Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted March 13, 2016 Global Moderator Posted March 13, 2016 Agree with all above..Tatsu is definitely a little much to use for any reaction application. IMHO. I switched all of mine to 12# Yo Zuri and wouldn't change. Mike Quote
Super User WRB Posted March 13, 2016 Super User Posted March 13, 2016 When you make several hundred casts a day the line starts to wear out when fishing crank baits. The one issue with every fluorocarbon line is weak knot strength high memory when compared to mono line. Suggest using a premium mono like Big Game that is inexpensive purchased in 1/4 lb spools and one of the top casting line on the market. I use 12 lb Big Game for cranking and change it after a few outings if I have cranked all day. It's a myth to think FC line allows a deep diving crank bait to dive deeper than equal diameter mono line. Mono has better knot strength, lower memory, better casting and less expensive than FC line. FC line is better for keeping in contact with bottom lures like jigs and worms. Tom Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted March 13, 2016 Super User Posted March 13, 2016 I use fluoro for cranking but find that memory is less of a problem with crankbaits. The bait is fished on a tight line and it straightens back out pretty quickly. I would save the Tatsu for t-rigging or jigs, although it will work fine for your purposes. Quote
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