Super User 5bass Posted September 1, 2010 Super User Posted September 1, 2010 I love these things but $4 a pop is a little ridiculous. Does anybody here do these or know where I can find a mold to pour them myself? Quote
Scorcher214 Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 I would pay $4 a peice. Most spinnerbaits run 5-6 bucks. Almost the same thing. You got a lead head, a hook, and a blade. Quote
cadman Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 I love these things but $4 a pop is a little ridiculous. Does anybody here do these or know where I can find a mold to pour them myself? Since I pour and sell over 40 different jigs and spinnerbaits, I was going to add something similar to this to my arsenal, until I thought about it and decided that there wasn't a big demand for them. So maybe I'm wrong. I know $4 seems like a lot of money for this in reality it's really not that expensive after you consider a mold $40, then you will have to modify the mold about 3-4 hours to get it correct, ball bearing swivel about .75 cents, good hook .25 cents, quality blade about .25 cents. Then you have to pour them and paint them and misc. hardware. None the less, you can make this at home. Buy a Do-It Ultra-Minnow Jig Mold, depending on the size you want. Modify the hook eye and shank to fit the hook you want on all the cavities then cut a slot on the mold at the belly. This is it. There is more time in making it then trying to explain it. If you want more Help on this, PM me with your e-mail and I would be happy to help you out on my thoughts and ideas. Quote
NateFollmer Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 http://www.do-itmolds.com/prodmolds.aspx?c=52 That's the closest thing I could find in a mold that wouldn't need modified... Cadman has the right idea though and he know's his stuff I remember this guy from TU. Those are nice for running swimbaits with. Alton Jones did an episode of Classic Patterns with that jig. Quote
cadman Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 http://www.do-itmolds.com/prodmolds.aspx?c=52That's the closest thing I could find in a mold that wouldn't need modified... Cadman has the right idea though and he know's his stuff I remember this guy from TU. Those are nice for running swimbaits with. Alton Jones did an episode of Classic Patterns with that jig. Nate, The link you posted is probably the easiest jig to use and to convert. It also comes in a heavier model BTW thanks for the compliment, I try to help people out and lead them on the straight and narrow. 5bass limit, If you are interested in a sample of what Nate posted PM me and we can talk. The jig I was mentioning, I should have posted a link. Here it is http://www.do-itmolds.com/prodmolds.aspx?c=196 Quote
Super User 5bass Posted September 1, 2010 Author Super User Posted September 1, 2010 I would pay $4 a peice. You go right ahead then. I will too until I find a cheaper alternative. Most spinnerbaits run 5-6 bucks. Almost the same thing. You got a lead head, a hook, and a blade Not true. A 5 or 6 dollar spinnerbait has a hook that will last a long time. The hooks on the fish head spins dont hold up over time. Plus, a spinnerbait is almost impossible to get hung up....these hang up on anything and everything. Thanks for the info cadman Quote
NateFollmer Posted September 1, 2010 Posted September 1, 2010 Cadman that jig would look awesome with a blade on the bottom. You should make them Quote
cadman Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 Cadman that jig would look awesome with a blade on the bottom. You should make them Nate, I have thought about it many times. The spinnerbait head in my avatar is only one of my many 6 color powder painted schemes with a glitter coat and a clear coat. I may look into this again. I usually have my molds modified for sale. Not to say that this won't sell in my catalog. Maybe I'll take your advice. We'll see. Quote
cadman Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 Five Bass Limit, If you know what size head you are looking for, I can let you know what hooks will match up in there. The std hook that fits in that mold would be a aberdeen hook. Bu I know for a fact that you can go to a 90 degree Mustad, with a heavier hook. This way you would only have to modify the belly which would make life easier if that's what you want to do. Let me know if I can help. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 if it was me I would modify this mold http://www.do-itmolds.com/prodmolds.aspx?c=196 Everything is perfect except the bottom swivel attachment. Put the blade a little farther back also. I just figured out a real easy way of doing this. 8-) Quote
cadman Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 if it was me I would modify this moldhttp://www.do-itmolds.com/prodmolds.aspx?c=196 Everything is perfect except the bottom swivel attachment. Put the blade a little farther back also. I just figured out a real easy way of doing this. 8-) GMan, Yep, that is the mold I linked above also. If you use std hooks no prob. If you go heavier than only a slight mod to the hook eye and the hook shank, along with the belly. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted September 2, 2010 Super User Posted September 2, 2010 I actually have that Ultra minnow mold and planned on doing the modification to make these. I also have the seahorse mold that is just a bigger version of the Blakemore roadrunner. Since I have never caught anything on the seahorse ones I made I never modified the Ultra minnow mold. Allen Quote
Super User 5bass Posted September 2, 2010 Author Super User Posted September 2, 2010 Allen, if you want to modify that minnow head mold and sell it, I may buy it. I guess it depends on # of cavities and weight sizes. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted November 23, 2010 Super User Posted November 23, 2010 Allen, if you want to modify that minnow head mold and sell it, I may buy it. I guess it depends on # of cavities and weight sizes. Bringing this back up because I will have some free time soon and plan on going forward with the project. Since a machinest friend is currently laid off and offered to help it shouldn't be hard to modify the mold. Now for the questions= What weight and hook size does eveyone like? The 3/8oz lists 3/0 but most Do-It molds will take 1 size larger hooks. The swimming hornet uses a crane swivel molded into the head but I was thinking of trying a looped wire end? I guess I will wait and see what Don says as I have the horsehead mold swivel cavity as a reference. Overall the most expensive component of this bait is the ball bearing swivel but these things can only cost about $1.25 to make. Allen Quote
Super User Munkin Posted November 23, 2010 Super User Posted November 23, 2010 http://www.johnnyspond.com/bagley-belly-button-minnow-head-jigs.html Something like this is what I was thinking with the wire option? The problem I see so far is so much of the lead is forward of the hook eye for the Ultra minnow. Allen Quote
RandySBreth Posted November 24, 2010 Posted November 24, 2010 This won't help with the custom mold question, but concerning the fact that the open hook design on this type lure is prone to snagging - just use a Hitchhiker attached to the hook eye and then Texas Rig the trailer that way. You'll miss some fish, but keep your lures. http://www.basspro.com/Hitchhiker-Trailers/product/15839/-369264 Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 11, 2010 Super User Posted December 11, 2010 Well I started modifing the mold today and I am almost done one cavity. Now I just need to go out and get some more dremel bits because I destroyed all the small ones I need to finish. Allen Quote
cadman Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 Well I started modifing the mold today and I am almost done one cavity. Now I just need to go out and get some more dremel bits because I destroyed all the small ones I need to finish.Allen Allen, if you can swing the cash don't buy dremel bits, buy carbide ball end mills or regular carbide end mills they are virtually indestructable, and will outlast any bit you get from Dremel. Dremel bits are only good for wood and light duty work in my opinion Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 11, 2010 Super User Posted December 11, 2010 Well I started modifing the mold today and I am almost done one cavity. Now I just need to go out and get some more dremel bits because I destroyed all the small ones I need to finish.Allen Allen, if you can swing the cash don't buy dremel bits, buy carbide ball end mills or regular carbide end mills they are virtually indestructable, and will outlast any bit you get from Dremel. Dremel bits are only good for wood and light duty work in my opinion Will they work in my Dremel and where can I get them? Allen Quote
cadman Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 Well I started modifing the mold today and I am almost done one cavity. Now I just need to go out and get some more dremel bits because I destroyed all the small ones I need to finish.Allen Allen, if you can swing the cash don't buy dremel bits, buy carbide ball end mills or regular carbide end mills they are virtually indestructable, and will outlast any bit you get from Dremel. Dremel bits are only good for wood and light duty work in my opinion Will they work in my Dremel and where can I get them? Allen Yes, they will work in your dremel on high speed, especially the ball end mill. There are many sizes and shank sizes. I do know that they make 1/8" dia. shank sizes. Here is a link take a look at it, read up on the different speeds and cutting materials. This may be a better alternative than what you are using. http://www.mcmaster.com/#ball-end-mills/=a3two2 Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 23, 2010 Super User Posted December 23, 2010 http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/gallery/image/7864-spinn-minnow/ Looks like someone beat me to it but at least I know it will work. Allen Quote
saugerman Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 I made some similar baits like these from the Ultra Minnow mold and have had very good success with it. You can make a very good looking bait with that mold, that works great,with very little work ,to it. Iv'e been using a mustad aberdeen hook in it and I have landed fish up to 5 lbs. with it and have had no trouble with it staightening out. It is a little heavier than a standard aberdeen hook. Quote
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